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Double-swap redirect (was "Grantville, WV"--the original article title, but moved without discussion.) for page name, moved without consensus despite forethought of chosen name. This fictional town is in THURINGIA, Germany, not West Virginia, so this name is very misleading.

  1. and can be confused with real West Virginia places... so moved back to 'cure the tens of double redirects caused by the original move.
  2. The name is hardly ever used as is, but is pipetricked to Grantville in the articles when used. Hence this long name makes for more error prone (more characters to mistype) entry and for more editor work, while concurrently disturbing the edit window text more than the shorter name.
I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia — so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia? As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abberviation helps, as it's not in WV either... -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC) reply

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This section cut N pasted from now orphaned Talk:Grantville, West Virginia after newest page move on 17 October by Wwoods -- annotation and cut N paste from redirect talk page (now redirected here too) // Fra nkB 03:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC) re: Grantville (1632 series) (   talk  links  history) Vs. Grantville%2C_West_Virginia (  [[|talk]]  links  history) reply

This article was created with an eye on naming conventions fiction, the key part of which was to specifically avoid naming conventions for US citys and Towns in a state, but to use an state abbreviation so there would be no possible way it could be mistaken that way, and thus to comply with naming conventions for fictional places, to whit, 'the name must not be confusable with any real place'. (paraphrased, I'm sure.)

  1. Wasn't properly tagged by any {{R from ...} template, etc.
  2. Left tens of pages needing cleaned up with respect to double redirects.
I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia — so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia? As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abbreviation helps, as it's not in WV either... -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Page moved record

file under growing pains.

Was redirect page talk

Double-swap redirect (was "Grantville, WV"--the original article title, but moved without discussion.) for page name, moved without consensus despite forethought of chosen name. This fictional town is in THURINGIA, Germany, not West Virginia, so this name is very misleading.

  1. and can be confused with real West Virginia places... so moved back to 'cure the tens of double redirects caused by the original move.
  2. The name is hardly ever used as is, but is pipetricked to Grantville in the articles when used. Hence this long name makes for more error prone (more characters to mistype) entry and for more editor work, while concurrently disturbing the edit window text more than the shorter name.
I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia — so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia? As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abberviation helps, as it's not in WV either... -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Page Moves History

This section cut N pasted from now orphaned Talk:Grantville, West Virginia after newest page move on 17 October by Wwoods -- annotation and cut N paste from redirect talk page (now redirected here too) // Fra nkB 03:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC) re: Grantville (1632 series) (   talk  links  history) Vs. Grantville%2C_West_Virginia (  [[|talk]]  links  history) reply

This article was created with an eye on naming conventions fiction, the key part of which was to specifically avoid naming conventions for US citys and Towns in a state, but to use an state abbreviation so there would be no possible way it could be mistaken that way, and thus to comply with naming conventions for fictional places, to whit, 'the name must not be confusable with any real place'. (paraphrased, I'm sure.)

  1. Wasn't properly tagged by any {{R from ...} template, etc.
  2. Left tens of pages needing cleaned up with respect to double redirects.
I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia — so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia? As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abbreviation helps, as it's not in WV either... -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC) reply

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