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While the two schools of gospel--white and black--are still quite distinct, I hate to compound the century-old pattern of segregation by breaking this article into two. As anyone can see, however, I know next to nothing about the white variety. I also hope others will fill in the links to groups such as The Swan Silvertones and import some suitable images to ornament this page and others.
~ Italo Svevo ~ The article mentions that some of the gospel music crossed over between black and white churches. Can anyone list some of the songs that crossed over? And what groups may have sang them. I would like to compare and contrast the two different styles using the same songs, hopefully during the same era, ie: 40's and 50's. Thank you.
Does anyone know which gospel music crossed over between black and white churches?
My understanding is that "southern gospel" is a subset of "white gospel." I don't claim any expertise in this area; someone who actually knows the field should clear up this confusion and expand this part of the article.
The claim that tracing gospel to Celtic traditions of "lining out" is racist is strange. African-American culture, gospel included, was created from African slaves' and their African-American descendents' confrontation with white-dominated society. The fact that their cultural forms took more from that society and did not preserve the sort of clearer African lineage in the U.S. that African slaves did in Cuba and elsewhere does not make them any less authentic here in the U.S. Nor does it insult African-Americans or their culture to point out the practices they borrowed, then adapted.
And gospel took as much from white culture—starting with the Methodist hymns of Dr. Watts and other eighteenth century composers, the theology of the Great Awakening, the ecclesiastical structures of Baptist and Methodist churches and all of the other aspects of religious culture which their masters allowed them to participate in—as any other aspect of black culture in the U.S., even when being sung by blacks for blacks in black churches. While it's fair to say that gospel music became "blacker" with the advent of the Holiness churches in the early twentieth century—an outgrowth of the Pentecostal movement, interracial at the outset but quickly segregated—even then black gospel music maintained some tenuous, mostly one-way connections with white gospel music; Dorsey wrote songs that became standards for white gospel singers, black gospel groups appeared in secular white venues.
The subject of precursors to modern gospel music and the mix of European and African traditions is an interesting one. I hope this is just the start of a fuller discussion. -- Italo Svevo 18:59, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I removed the gratuitous and unhelpful statement "But that can be written off as nothing but politically correct fluff." We do, however, need someone to contribute to this section, since the article presently jumps from the eighteenth century to 1920, which is preposterous. -- Italo Svevo 05:34, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Seriously, it would be really cool to have a list of songs in other genres which feature a gospel choir.
I'll get us started:
-- AlanH 23:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
-- AlanH 23:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
discuss it first, ok? Reverted that section. -- AlanH 01:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
the gospels was sing bye the black people in the hard work,how they have to do!one people was sing and the oder sing second him or her!so gospelmusic have there origin from the plantation where the blackpeople have worked!
by Renate
What the.... Racist troll or ESL? Laggard
Unsure of the following statement from the article:
Can someone provide references or documentation on the Methodist hymnal part. If not it will be removed.
Absolon S. Kent
18:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the references provided for this section, I'm not sure if they meet the Wikipedia test for reliable sources. Unless someone else can provide a more creditable source I will remove this section NLT December 1. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 03:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I originally put in the reference for the possible Gaelic origins of gospel singing. It is a theory proposed by Professor Willie Ruff, an Arican American and reouned musicologist. If you are looking for a credible source then look at the Yale University site.
http://www.yale.edu/music/linesinging/
I am currently living in Scotland myself (as an Irishman) and saw a T.V. show in Scottish Gaelic about the Gaelic origins of gospel. The show had prominent African American citizens discuss the theory and the reaction was quite positive. Perhapse you should contact Professor Willie Ruff directly as he is an expert in the subject anmd as an African american himself could better discuss and talk about the subject with sources. Regards, Slan Leat Celtic Harper ( talk) 21:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Celtic Harper, I am not an African American, but I do have a pssion about making sure that things are written with accuracy. As I stated, "I am a historian of these issues and I am called upon to lecture in regards to musical and theatrical origins." I feel the contacting Prof. Ruff would not give us the answers but may only lead us to original research which as you know is against wikipedia guidelines. We need citable material. I am not opposed to leaving things in as long as there is a considerable rewrite to the existing information which I believe Absolon would agree with. I also can appreciate you passion and I applaud you for that. I feel we need more editors with that passion. I also think you will agree that as editors, we have a responsibility to insure the readers that what they are reading is researched, cited and sourced without POVs. Let's get this puppy done! Junebug52 00:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
There are definitely clear African influences to the style. But the style is also influenced by European sources. So it's not impossible that the Scottish influence is accurate. I think the appropriate thing to do would be to balance the information according to how well the general academic community views it. If the Scottish influence is a fringe theory then it should be discussed in a smaller proportion to other theories. Right now it looks like everything is tied to this one individual. If not for the Washington Post article I'd say can it altogether. But they lend credibility to it. CJ ( talk) 23:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we should consider the following as a starting point for the discussion on revising the history section. Instead of talking about the various places the different styles developed they could all be discussed based upon the time period. Sections could include:
This is just a suggested starting point. Feel free to comment. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 15:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I rewrote the lead to bring it more in line with the Christian music article. I also hid the History section until we can find a better way to word it. I think the article reads alot better without as much detail. Please comment. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 18:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Since there are editors for various genres of Christian music, might I suggest that each editor take the genre that they have knowledge of and act as a lead editor for that genre. Then at some point we can change genres at the request of said editor and add and check each others work to make sure that we are not leaving factors out. This way we are not double working and running over each others edits which could lead us into an edit wars at some point. Does anyone have any input about this suggestion? Junebug52 05:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I will be happy to start with Christian country music since that is an article I started and have knowledge of the artists involved. Junebug52 05:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm transferring your question and comment to the Christian music portal and copying to the new Christian music WikiProject. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 05:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The history of Gospel music is well documented and what is shared here is not the accepted history. What is represented here is but one of gospel's offshoots. Thomas Dorsey is commonly called "The Father of Gospel Music." Perhaps we culd include one of the standard timelines from a neutral source to write a proper chronology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.234.96 ( talk) 03:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I removed the link www.musicgospellyrics.com from the external link section because it violates WP:SONG#LYRICS and Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works. Please do not readd this link. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 16:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
If Gospel music is music that is written to express either personal or a communal belief regarding Christian life, as well as (in terms of the varying music styles) to give a Christian alternative to mainstream secular music, should it not include ALL genres that conform to this criteria (e.g. modern genres such as Christian Rock)? D van Eeden ( talk) 13:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed this listing because it adds nothing to the article and has the potential to become an out of control listing of personal favorites. If someone can come up with a verifiable listing of artists we can readd it. Otherwise it would simply be a listing of original research. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 19:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
There seems to me to be a fundamental problem with this article, which is that it reflects the religious views of a few editors, and is not neutral. I would guess that those who seek to manage the article are Christians, living in the USA. They have valid opinions, and no doubt in many cases have a great depth of valuable knowledge which should be passed on. However, most people do not share the same beliefs, and do not live in the USA. Nonetheless, gospel music may still be of interest to them, and they may wish to read an informed article about it. My personal interest in gospel music is as a genre of African-American music from the early to mid 20th century. I'm well aware of the belief systems behind that, and to some extent its precursors and later development, but I would like to find out more. The article doesn't let me do that, and to my mind that is unfortunate. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Gospel Songs (1874) by P. P. Bliss actually came before any of the Gospel Hymns series. The story of how Sankey and Bliss combined their Gospel Songs and Sacred Songs and Solos efforts into what was subsequently published as Gospel Hymns and Sacred Songs (Gospel Hymns no. 1) is pretty well documented. The cited Malone source is either wrong or misquoted - easy to confirm just by checking the publication dates on worldcat or elsewhere. However, a good explanation may also be found on page 486 of Benson's The English Hymn which is available on-line at: http://books.google.com/books?id=0FQuAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA486
Didn't change it myself because I'm not sure that Gospel Songs (1874) is even the first use; I just know it came before Gospel Hymns(1875). Thanks! Rostdo ( talk) 04:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
This decoration would go well on a page near here, but where? The lyrics are 16th century, the music was recorded with this traditional tune in 1979 and performed by a dozen artists and now available on a similar commons license to wikipedia, is it gospel or christian or ancient or contempoary?
The paragraph under "20th Century" on Thomas A. Dorsey has a few problems with both grammar and NPOV. I've never edited anything here, and I also know very little about the subject, so I'll just point out the section so someone can look it over.
"He had many trials in his life that he overcame concerning his health and his wife died. He dedicated all of his musical talent to the service of the LORD. Thomas gained knowledge of his religion from his father who was a Baptist minister and took up on piano from his mother who was his teacher. He started working with lack blues pianist when they moved to Atlanta." Z0X0X ( talk) 19:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't think the choice of Yolanda Adams is the right one. It is clearly more contemporary jazz oriented than gospel. There must be better music exemplifications that are free of licensing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASDLR ( talk • contribs) 11:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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Gospel is a style of music. The “First Gospel songs” that are mentioned in this wiki were just Christian hymns that were adapted to thr Gospel style. Black Church music has a distinct style. When the songs that are mentioned were first song they did not sound likr gospel music. If you need a cultural example, think of the movie “Sister Act”. A Catholic hymn was repurposed into a gospel song.
White Christian music and African- American Christian music sound nothing alike. The slaves used their master’s songs and words in their style. Now like every other Black Genre the style has been appropriated, but not duplicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.101.23 ( talk) 05:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Side note Elvis frequented Negro Churches. Also, Negroes do not adopt or embrace white culture. Any adoption is always very limited. For example, Country Music, Slang.... The cultural sharing is VERY uneven. Many minority groups are this way... This wiki makes many claims without citations. It implies that Blacks have a choice in sharing their culture and that their is mutual collaboration. Black Music, Dance, Slang and all Culture is very distinct. There is not collaboration. There is condemnation, the acceptance and then appropriation. This has been done over and over again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.101.23 ( talk) 05:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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In regards to the origins of gospel music with the definition presented "christian lyrics" what about the biblical psalms and song? Do they not fall under the category. Yes there is no understood beat pattern, but lyrically it can be studied to represent earlier accounts of "gospel music" what more authentic than the songs written within the time of the man Christ himself? Closure53 ( talk) 07:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Something is not right. Gospel music is supposed to be a form of Christian music, but some songs labeled under the genre (like Prince's Purple Rain) seem to have nothing to do with Christianity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:99F2:E5DC:E424:D432 ( talk) 03:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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While the two schools of gospel--white and black--are still quite distinct, I hate to compound the century-old pattern of segregation by breaking this article into two. As anyone can see, however, I know next to nothing about the white variety. I also hope others will fill in the links to groups such as The Swan Silvertones and import some suitable images to ornament this page and others.
~ Italo Svevo ~ The article mentions that some of the gospel music crossed over between black and white churches. Can anyone list some of the songs that crossed over? And what groups may have sang them. I would like to compare and contrast the two different styles using the same songs, hopefully during the same era, ie: 40's and 50's. Thank you.
Does anyone know which gospel music crossed over between black and white churches?
My understanding is that "southern gospel" is a subset of "white gospel." I don't claim any expertise in this area; someone who actually knows the field should clear up this confusion and expand this part of the article.
The claim that tracing gospel to Celtic traditions of "lining out" is racist is strange. African-American culture, gospel included, was created from African slaves' and their African-American descendents' confrontation with white-dominated society. The fact that their cultural forms took more from that society and did not preserve the sort of clearer African lineage in the U.S. that African slaves did in Cuba and elsewhere does not make them any less authentic here in the U.S. Nor does it insult African-Americans or their culture to point out the practices they borrowed, then adapted.
And gospel took as much from white culture—starting with the Methodist hymns of Dr. Watts and other eighteenth century composers, the theology of the Great Awakening, the ecclesiastical structures of Baptist and Methodist churches and all of the other aspects of religious culture which their masters allowed them to participate in—as any other aspect of black culture in the U.S., even when being sung by blacks for blacks in black churches. While it's fair to say that gospel music became "blacker" with the advent of the Holiness churches in the early twentieth century—an outgrowth of the Pentecostal movement, interracial at the outset but quickly segregated—even then black gospel music maintained some tenuous, mostly one-way connections with white gospel music; Dorsey wrote songs that became standards for white gospel singers, black gospel groups appeared in secular white venues.
The subject of precursors to modern gospel music and the mix of European and African traditions is an interesting one. I hope this is just the start of a fuller discussion. -- Italo Svevo 18:59, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I removed the gratuitous and unhelpful statement "But that can be written off as nothing but politically correct fluff." We do, however, need someone to contribute to this section, since the article presently jumps from the eighteenth century to 1920, which is preposterous. -- Italo Svevo 05:34, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Seriously, it would be really cool to have a list of songs in other genres which feature a gospel choir.
I'll get us started:
-- AlanH 23:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
-- AlanH 23:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
discuss it first, ok? Reverted that section. -- AlanH 01:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
the gospels was sing bye the black people in the hard work,how they have to do!one people was sing and the oder sing second him or her!so gospelmusic have there origin from the plantation where the blackpeople have worked!
by Renate
What the.... Racist troll or ESL? Laggard
Unsure of the following statement from the article:
Can someone provide references or documentation on the Methodist hymnal part. If not it will be removed.
Absolon S. Kent
18:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the references provided for this section, I'm not sure if they meet the Wikipedia test for reliable sources. Unless someone else can provide a more creditable source I will remove this section NLT December 1. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 03:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I originally put in the reference for the possible Gaelic origins of gospel singing. It is a theory proposed by Professor Willie Ruff, an Arican American and reouned musicologist. If you are looking for a credible source then look at the Yale University site.
http://www.yale.edu/music/linesinging/
I am currently living in Scotland myself (as an Irishman) and saw a T.V. show in Scottish Gaelic about the Gaelic origins of gospel. The show had prominent African American citizens discuss the theory and the reaction was quite positive. Perhapse you should contact Professor Willie Ruff directly as he is an expert in the subject anmd as an African american himself could better discuss and talk about the subject with sources. Regards, Slan Leat Celtic Harper ( talk) 21:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Celtic Harper, I am not an African American, but I do have a pssion about making sure that things are written with accuracy. As I stated, "I am a historian of these issues and I am called upon to lecture in regards to musical and theatrical origins." I feel the contacting Prof. Ruff would not give us the answers but may only lead us to original research which as you know is against wikipedia guidelines. We need citable material. I am not opposed to leaving things in as long as there is a considerable rewrite to the existing information which I believe Absolon would agree with. I also can appreciate you passion and I applaud you for that. I feel we need more editors with that passion. I also think you will agree that as editors, we have a responsibility to insure the readers that what they are reading is researched, cited and sourced without POVs. Let's get this puppy done! Junebug52 00:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
There are definitely clear African influences to the style. But the style is also influenced by European sources. So it's not impossible that the Scottish influence is accurate. I think the appropriate thing to do would be to balance the information according to how well the general academic community views it. If the Scottish influence is a fringe theory then it should be discussed in a smaller proportion to other theories. Right now it looks like everything is tied to this one individual. If not for the Washington Post article I'd say can it altogether. But they lend credibility to it. CJ ( talk) 23:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we should consider the following as a starting point for the discussion on revising the history section. Instead of talking about the various places the different styles developed they could all be discussed based upon the time period. Sections could include:
This is just a suggested starting point. Feel free to comment. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 15:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I rewrote the lead to bring it more in line with the Christian music article. I also hid the History section until we can find a better way to word it. I think the article reads alot better without as much detail. Please comment. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 18:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Since there are editors for various genres of Christian music, might I suggest that each editor take the genre that they have knowledge of and act as a lead editor for that genre. Then at some point we can change genres at the request of said editor and add and check each others work to make sure that we are not leaving factors out. This way we are not double working and running over each others edits which could lead us into an edit wars at some point. Does anyone have any input about this suggestion? Junebug52 05:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I will be happy to start with Christian country music since that is an article I started and have knowledge of the artists involved. Junebug52 05:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm transferring your question and comment to the Christian music portal and copying to the new Christian music WikiProject. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 05:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The history of Gospel music is well documented and what is shared here is not the accepted history. What is represented here is but one of gospel's offshoots. Thomas Dorsey is commonly called "The Father of Gospel Music." Perhaps we culd include one of the standard timelines from a neutral source to write a proper chronology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.234.96 ( talk) 03:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I removed the link www.musicgospellyrics.com from the external link section because it violates WP:SONG#LYRICS and Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works. Please do not readd this link. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 16:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
If Gospel music is music that is written to express either personal or a communal belief regarding Christian life, as well as (in terms of the varying music styles) to give a Christian alternative to mainstream secular music, should it not include ALL genres that conform to this criteria (e.g. modern genres such as Christian Rock)? D van Eeden ( talk) 13:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed this listing because it adds nothing to the article and has the potential to become an out of control listing of personal favorites. If someone can come up with a verifiable listing of artists we can readd it. Otherwise it would simply be a listing of original research. Absolon S. Kent ( talk) 19:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
There seems to me to be a fundamental problem with this article, which is that it reflects the religious views of a few editors, and is not neutral. I would guess that those who seek to manage the article are Christians, living in the USA. They have valid opinions, and no doubt in many cases have a great depth of valuable knowledge which should be passed on. However, most people do not share the same beliefs, and do not live in the USA. Nonetheless, gospel music may still be of interest to them, and they may wish to read an informed article about it. My personal interest in gospel music is as a genre of African-American music from the early to mid 20th century. I'm well aware of the belief systems behind that, and to some extent its precursors and later development, but I would like to find out more. The article doesn't let me do that, and to my mind that is unfortunate. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Gospel Songs (1874) by P. P. Bliss actually came before any of the Gospel Hymns series. The story of how Sankey and Bliss combined their Gospel Songs and Sacred Songs and Solos efforts into what was subsequently published as Gospel Hymns and Sacred Songs (Gospel Hymns no. 1) is pretty well documented. The cited Malone source is either wrong or misquoted - easy to confirm just by checking the publication dates on worldcat or elsewhere. However, a good explanation may also be found on page 486 of Benson's The English Hymn which is available on-line at: http://books.google.com/books?id=0FQuAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA486
Didn't change it myself because I'm not sure that Gospel Songs (1874) is even the first use; I just know it came before Gospel Hymns(1875). Thanks! Rostdo ( talk) 04:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
This decoration would go well on a page near here, but where? The lyrics are 16th century, the music was recorded with this traditional tune in 1979 and performed by a dozen artists and now available on a similar commons license to wikipedia, is it gospel or christian or ancient or contempoary?
The paragraph under "20th Century" on Thomas A. Dorsey has a few problems with both grammar and NPOV. I've never edited anything here, and I also know very little about the subject, so I'll just point out the section so someone can look it over.
"He had many trials in his life that he overcame concerning his health and his wife died. He dedicated all of his musical talent to the service of the LORD. Thomas gained knowledge of his religion from his father who was a Baptist minister and took up on piano from his mother who was his teacher. He started working with lack blues pianist when they moved to Atlanta." Z0X0X ( talk) 19:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't think the choice of Yolanda Adams is the right one. It is clearly more contemporary jazz oriented than gospel. There must be better music exemplifications that are free of licensing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASDLR ( talk • contribs) 11:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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Gospel is a style of music. The “First Gospel songs” that are mentioned in this wiki were just Christian hymns that were adapted to thr Gospel style. Black Church music has a distinct style. When the songs that are mentioned were first song they did not sound likr gospel music. If you need a cultural example, think of the movie “Sister Act”. A Catholic hymn was repurposed into a gospel song.
White Christian music and African- American Christian music sound nothing alike. The slaves used their master’s songs and words in their style. Now like every other Black Genre the style has been appropriated, but not duplicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.101.23 ( talk) 05:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Side note Elvis frequented Negro Churches. Also, Negroes do not adopt or embrace white culture. Any adoption is always very limited. For example, Country Music, Slang.... The cultural sharing is VERY uneven. Many minority groups are this way... This wiki makes many claims without citations. It implies that Blacks have a choice in sharing their culture and that their is mutual collaboration. Black Music, Dance, Slang and all Culture is very distinct. There is not collaboration. There is condemnation, the acceptance and then appropriation. This has been done over and over again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.101.23 ( talk) 05:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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In regards to the origins of gospel music with the definition presented "christian lyrics" what about the biblical psalms and song? Do they not fall under the category. Yes there is no understood beat pattern, but lyrically it can be studied to represent earlier accounts of "gospel music" what more authentic than the songs written within the time of the man Christ himself? Closure53 ( talk) 07:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Something is not right. Gospel music is supposed to be a form of Christian music, but some songs labeled under the genre (like Prince's Purple Rain) seem to have nothing to do with Christianity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:99F2:E5DC:E424:D432 ( talk) 03:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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