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3/21/04 is an ambiguous date format. BrendanH 09:28, 2004 Apr 1 (UTC)
The Gmail subject, as of April 5th, is gaining coverage in the media. We'd all appreciate someone adeptly polishing this article, especially the last paragraph which borderlines a gossip column. Keyword: encyclopedia. And is the April Fools controversy sincerely worthy of being mentioned repeatedly? Usedbook 17:57, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I have created a couple of gmail accounts, with usernames wikiwiki and wikipedian, the passwords are easy to guess (hint they have to do with Wikipedia, and they're both all lowercase), so whoever can do it can have them. I suggest you change the password soon afterwards though :)
Quick in the draw 00:35, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Maybe what we need is to enlarge Webmail to include a list of current providers, showing the features which each offers; a possible alternative would be to create a new article at Webmail providers. Wherever we put it, this might then provide a useful resource for Wikipedians seeking such a service, allowing them to compare and contrast and eventually choose. Obviously a certain amount of policing will be necessary to avoid pollution by fans or detractors of the various services :-) -- Phil | Talk 14:08, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)
Does the note about gmail.com previously belonging to Garfield refer to the Gmail software, or to the gmail.com domain? My guess is that it's the domain, but perhaps this could be made clearer?
Please stop disputing this fact on this page. While I understand the controversy surrounding this measurement, this page is not the place for that discussion. If you have concerns over the way that Gigabytes are measured, please argue on the Talk page for Gigabyte. As long as the gigabyte article says that 1 Gigabyte = 1000 Megabytes, this page should reflect the same. Thanks. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 13:35, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
The article says Gmail was announced on Mar 31, 2004, however it was actually announced on Apr 1, 2004 UTC. Local time would've been Mar 31, but Google obviously wanted it to be announced on Apr 1. You'll notice none of their press releases specify timezones except for the Gmail one. I think the article should simply state that it was announced on Apr 1, since that is when the press release was.
I sent the following email to google regarding the 1000 or 1024MB of storage because unless we really know for sure users here will probably keep on having this minescule edit war forever. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 14:50, 2004 Jul 23 (UTC)
I'm confused as to whether gmail actually has 1GB of storage, which would be 1024MB or if it has 0.9765625GB of storage, which is 1000MB. The support pages conflict on this: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6833 [...] A measure of data storage. A gigabyte equals about 1,000 megabytes (MB) [...] http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7187 Because you have 1,000 megabytes of storage, you don't have to [...] Could someone tell me just which it is, i myself think that it's 1024 because obviously that has to be kept track of using computer hardware, and i myself doubt any programmer would artificially measure a gigabyte in powers of 10 instead of the right binary powers of 2. Thanks in advance.
Reply on 2004-08-02 11:47
Hello Ævar, Thank you for your message. Each Gmail user is given one gigabyte of storage. That means your account has the capacity to store 1,024 megabytes of storage. Please note that the number and the percentage located at the bottom of your Gmail account are rounded figures. Sincerely, The Gmail Team
No it isnt, it's to clarify whether they really have 1024MB of storage or 1000MB as they claim, if it indeed is 1024 then that should be in the article. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 16:43, 2004 Jul 26 (UTC)
I have tested this on my account, say snafu@gmail.com.
Sending email to snafu+test@gmail.com works fine.
Sending email to sn.afu@gmail.com didn't work.
So I think that the adding dots everywhere bit should be left out.
The whole thing about needing to be invited isn't on this page at all. Can we get something about what that's all about?
There's some information on: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3394361
updated the article where it mentioned Oddpost. Oddpost came before Gmail, and was the first service to perfect having a Javascript front-end that required minimal data to be sent from the server. -- mincus
Where did the 60% figure come from? What is the claimed equivalent for Yahoo and HotMail? -- Phil | Talk 08:40, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
Didn't GMail just change its invite system so that people can now sign up? If so, this should be reflected in the article.
no. see [1] -- getcrunk juice contribs 18:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
GMail doesn't fully support HTML e-mails, I just encountered this with a mailing that I'm doing. From my workaround it seems that they only look in the body of the HTML and ignore anything that's in the HEAD portion, swiping all styles.
If someone with more insight could add a piece to the article it'd be swell.
I dont know where to write this but this is editorializing: "The assumed reason behind this is that the idea was, in effect, an invasion of privacy. Considering the sheer magnitude of this mess, Google will do a lot of squirming before it's over. "
Well,is this topic worth being added to an encyclopedia? If every new product of a certain popularity was added, what an encyclopedia this would be? (I.e. the latest renting models of XY which has an monopol in your country.)
Well, I'm going to reorganize this whole article this week. I just hope if anyone has anything against it to tell me before I do it. But I think it's going to be good. :)
I just want to leave a "pre-warning" notice. I would be doing it right now, but I want to give some time before I do it to anyone who might want to add something before I do it.
Thanks for understanding.
-- Cawas 19:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
As announced here last week, I finally made it to shorten the "features" section. I put the username handling in the "limitations" section and omitted a lot of the information that was redundant in my eyes. I'd like to see someone doing kind of the same with the "Development" sections; here, however, it might be worth considering to put all the detail information on another page " Development of Gmail" or something like that and leave only a summary here... -- Krueschan 19:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC) ...the "lockdown in sector 4" thingy should (if not deleted alltogether) be moved to this new page as well... -- Krueschan 19:35, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Please, look the talk at #Encyclopedia -- Cawas 19:38, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Ok, this is Cawas. I just did it. At least a first step. Hopefully this will turn out good. Most likely, it will be soon reverted and nobody might even notice
what I just did (pessimist me). --
Caue (
T |
C)
16:42, Friday
2006-
03-31 (
UTC)
Sorry, guys, but this article goes definitely beyond the scope of an encyclopedia article! When editing the page the hint "This page is 37 kilobytes long. This may be longer than is preferable" appears, and that's definitely true. The whole page reads nearly the same as Gmail's page when they praise all the cool features they have. I think the "Features" section should be summarised to 6-7 sentences and not 17 (!!!) sections. If there are no objections against that, I'll do that soon. -- Krueschan 12:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Please, look the talk at #Encyclopedia -- Cawas 19:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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3/21/04 is an ambiguous date format. BrendanH 09:28, 2004 Apr 1 (UTC)
The Gmail subject, as of April 5th, is gaining coverage in the media. We'd all appreciate someone adeptly polishing this article, especially the last paragraph which borderlines a gossip column. Keyword: encyclopedia. And is the April Fools controversy sincerely worthy of being mentioned repeatedly? Usedbook 17:57, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I have created a couple of gmail accounts, with usernames wikiwiki and wikipedian, the passwords are easy to guess (hint they have to do with Wikipedia, and they're both all lowercase), so whoever can do it can have them. I suggest you change the password soon afterwards though :)
Quick in the draw 00:35, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Maybe what we need is to enlarge Webmail to include a list of current providers, showing the features which each offers; a possible alternative would be to create a new article at Webmail providers. Wherever we put it, this might then provide a useful resource for Wikipedians seeking such a service, allowing them to compare and contrast and eventually choose. Obviously a certain amount of policing will be necessary to avoid pollution by fans or detractors of the various services :-) -- Phil | Talk 14:08, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)
Does the note about gmail.com previously belonging to Garfield refer to the Gmail software, or to the gmail.com domain? My guess is that it's the domain, but perhaps this could be made clearer?
Please stop disputing this fact on this page. While I understand the controversy surrounding this measurement, this page is not the place for that discussion. If you have concerns over the way that Gigabytes are measured, please argue on the Talk page for Gigabyte. As long as the gigabyte article says that 1 Gigabyte = 1000 Megabytes, this page should reflect the same. Thanks. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 13:35, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
The article says Gmail was announced on Mar 31, 2004, however it was actually announced on Apr 1, 2004 UTC. Local time would've been Mar 31, but Google obviously wanted it to be announced on Apr 1. You'll notice none of their press releases specify timezones except for the Gmail one. I think the article should simply state that it was announced on Apr 1, since that is when the press release was.
I sent the following email to google regarding the 1000 or 1024MB of storage because unless we really know for sure users here will probably keep on having this minescule edit war forever. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 14:50, 2004 Jul 23 (UTC)
I'm confused as to whether gmail actually has 1GB of storage, which would be 1024MB or if it has 0.9765625GB of storage, which is 1000MB. The support pages conflict on this: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6833 [...] A measure of data storage. A gigabyte equals about 1,000 megabytes (MB) [...] http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7187 Because you have 1,000 megabytes of storage, you don't have to [...] Could someone tell me just which it is, i myself think that it's 1024 because obviously that has to be kept track of using computer hardware, and i myself doubt any programmer would artificially measure a gigabyte in powers of 10 instead of the right binary powers of 2. Thanks in advance.
Reply on 2004-08-02 11:47
Hello Ævar, Thank you for your message. Each Gmail user is given one gigabyte of storage. That means your account has the capacity to store 1,024 megabytes of storage. Please note that the number and the percentage located at the bottom of your Gmail account are rounded figures. Sincerely, The Gmail Team
No it isnt, it's to clarify whether they really have 1024MB of storage or 1000MB as they claim, if it indeed is 1024 then that should be in the article. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 16:43, 2004 Jul 26 (UTC)
I have tested this on my account, say snafu@gmail.com.
Sending email to snafu+test@gmail.com works fine.
Sending email to sn.afu@gmail.com didn't work.
So I think that the adding dots everywhere bit should be left out.
The whole thing about needing to be invited isn't on this page at all. Can we get something about what that's all about?
There's some information on: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3394361
updated the article where it mentioned Oddpost. Oddpost came before Gmail, and was the first service to perfect having a Javascript front-end that required minimal data to be sent from the server. -- mincus
Where did the 60% figure come from? What is the claimed equivalent for Yahoo and HotMail? -- Phil | Talk 08:40, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
Didn't GMail just change its invite system so that people can now sign up? If so, this should be reflected in the article.
no. see [1] -- getcrunk juice contribs 18:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
GMail doesn't fully support HTML e-mails, I just encountered this with a mailing that I'm doing. From my workaround it seems that they only look in the body of the HTML and ignore anything that's in the HEAD portion, swiping all styles.
If someone with more insight could add a piece to the article it'd be swell.
I dont know where to write this but this is editorializing: "The assumed reason behind this is that the idea was, in effect, an invasion of privacy. Considering the sheer magnitude of this mess, Google will do a lot of squirming before it's over. "
Well,is this topic worth being added to an encyclopedia? If every new product of a certain popularity was added, what an encyclopedia this would be? (I.e. the latest renting models of XY which has an monopol in your country.)
Well, I'm going to reorganize this whole article this week. I just hope if anyone has anything against it to tell me before I do it. But I think it's going to be good. :)
I just want to leave a "pre-warning" notice. I would be doing it right now, but I want to give some time before I do it to anyone who might want to add something before I do it.
Thanks for understanding.
-- Cawas 19:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
As announced here last week, I finally made it to shorten the "features" section. I put the username handling in the "limitations" section and omitted a lot of the information that was redundant in my eyes. I'd like to see someone doing kind of the same with the "Development" sections; here, however, it might be worth considering to put all the detail information on another page " Development of Gmail" or something like that and leave only a summary here... -- Krueschan 19:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC) ...the "lockdown in sector 4" thingy should (if not deleted alltogether) be moved to this new page as well... -- Krueschan 19:35, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Please, look the talk at #Encyclopedia -- Cawas 19:38, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Ok, this is Cawas. I just did it. At least a first step. Hopefully this will turn out good. Most likely, it will be soon reverted and nobody might even notice
what I just did (pessimist me). --
Caue (
T |
C)
16:42, Friday
2006-
03-31 (
UTC)
Sorry, guys, but this article goes definitely beyond the scope of an encyclopedia article! When editing the page the hint "This page is 37 kilobytes long. This may be longer than is preferable" appears, and that's definitely true. The whole page reads nearly the same as Gmail's page when they praise all the cool features they have. I think the "Features" section should be summarised to 6-7 sentences and not 17 (!!!) sections. If there are no objections against that, I'll do that soon. -- Krueschan 12:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Please, look the talk at #Encyclopedia -- Cawas 19:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)