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Discussion about the title of this article and its recent change can be found at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Changing article titles from XXXXX (US) to XXXXX (United States). Feel free to contribute. -- hike395 16:51, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Given that the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Rethinking this decision is 5-1 in favor of using (US) for disambiguation, could we move this article back to Glacier National Park (US) ? Thanks! -- hike395 05:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I've uploaded some images to the Commons, in commons:Category:Glacier National Park. I also took the liberty of tagging the existing images there with the category, so they can be found and used more easily. -- E lkman - (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at this gif and let me know if it is useful in this article...I think it may be within the public domain but it is based on a few hypothesises that would need to be adequately clarified. gif is midpage: [2]-- MONGO 01:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I added some additional links but none of them seem to be working so I may delete them in a day or two if they don't fix themselves.-- MONGO 09:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the following articles still need to be written (according to the list you had on your user page and the redlinks in the current article):
(We can just strike these out or delete them as the links go blue.) Anything else that should be created?
Also, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to create a Glacier National Park (US) category for the articles related to Glacier National Park. What do you think? -- E lkman - (talk) 02:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
My understanding is that while acres is more commonly used in the U.S., hectares is actually only used by a relative few in those areas that use the metric system. Usually, those who use the metric system use square kilometers for larger areas. I can see why some would want to have square miles convert to square kilomters and acres to hectares, but it isn't that simple is it....in the U.S., few people I know identify area as square miles and most prefer the term acreage since they have a better concept of how big an acre is...you know, 40 acres and a mule, etc...they didn't say 4 square miles and a mule. My understanding of those peple who use the metric system is that hectares isn't widely used...comments?-- MONGO 16:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
We have bird woman falls listed as "perhaps the tallest waterfall" in the park. "Perhaps" seems odd phrasing--one would think it either would be or wouldn't be the tallest. The reference just gives a height, and [4] would seem to indicate that it may not in fact be the tallest. Unless I'm missing something here, we should probably remove the claim. -- Robth Talk 01:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Article is at 40kb...and shouldn't get a lot bigger unless we dicide to expand some areas. Been doing some fact checking and found a few misleading facts and have been working on correcting them. We still have the stubbies above and some wordplay here and there, but I think the article is close to being able to get it over to Peer Review in about a week or less. Any thoughts?-- MONGO 08:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
There is a new reference that is good for the glaciers with repeat photography. It does not contain any real new information on the glaciers just nice paired photographs [ [5]] Peltoms 15:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The article has been missing a ref since this edit of March 22, when the glaciers gone by 2030 statement was sourced to a named ref "retreat", but there is no named ref "retreat". Was there supposed to be a different ref named "retreat", or should the original source be restored? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
This page should be moved to Glacier National Park (United States). "US" is not very encyclopedic and should generally be avoided if possible. Funnyhat 21:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I propose we make sure this article is as good as it can be so we can try to get it on the main page on May 11, the 99th anniversary of the park. Jonathunder ( talk) 04:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
It looks like there's a lot of unsourced claims in here; most featured articles appear to have one reference per sentence or two. Silver Penguin ( talk) 21:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Will be working on trying to get this article to Featured Article level. The core of the article is excellent. I see major weak areas being a discussion of the glaciers themselves and how this park has had a lot of research done over a long period of time which clearly demostrates that the glaciers are retreating rapidly and may all disappear in a few decades. Expansion of the history, Native American issues of the park, flora and fauna, as well as recreation is in order as well...hope to target the article at less than 45 kb, but I am currently working on supporting stubs that can be simply linked from the main article within the text. I have stated accumulating existing and needed stubs here as follows:
-- MONGO 20:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Great work by everyone who did this - I especially love the beautiful photographs! Princess Caraboo ( talk) 13:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
The Canadian Lynx is mentioned in this article as one of two threatened species in Glacier NP. However, following the link shows the Canada Lynx (the correct name) is classified as Least Concern. I'm not an expert on threatened species, but I'm more inclined to believe the Lynx article than the Glacier article, so should this be changed? Boegiboe ( talk) 21:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Many of the historic photographs at Commons at Category:Walter_McClintock_Lantern_Slides appear to be from the Glacier National Park area. Someone familiar with the park could probably identify the mountains and lakes. The photos are described both as Blackfeet and Siksika Nation, from Montana. Someone familiar with the tribal history could probably determine how to categorize them correctly. If all this land was Blackfoot or Siksika Nation land at the time, should all the photos get those tags, even if they are only landscapes ? Djembayz ( talk) 18:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The location indicated on the map is the location of Yellowstone National Park. Wavelength 18:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: nomination withdrawn Armbrust The Homunculus 07:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Glacier National Park (U.S.) → Glacier National Park (United States) – I believe that the use of the full country name as the disambiguator is preferred, and the short form/abbreviation is discouraged. The Bushranger One ping only 21:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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Time for a new lead image maybe? Current one has many visible marks (dust spots from scanning a 35mm slide or negative maybe) and overexposed hairs along edges of the goat, and it's not very sharp and/or has shallow depth of field, while showing practically nothing of the mountainous terrain or glaciers. This image here, however, is clearer, sharper, with a balanced exposure, and includes mountains, glaciers, meadows, trees, a lake, and a mountain goat. OK, the goat's facing away from the article, and you can't see the eye detail, but otherwise it's a much better image for the infobox. It was uploaded about 2 months ago. Brian W. Schaller ( talk) 16:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
How are a documentary, a travelogue & a Cosmo article considered pop culture refs? I've mostly only seen feature films, TV shows, pop music, etc. style stuff in such sections. Shouldn't these three just be ext links, or maybe "Further reading" for the latter two? Brian W. Schaller ( talk) 15:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Grinnell Glacier a Jackson Glacier did grow (about 25% growth) from the year 2010. The article does not reflect that at all. Same for the consequent articles... https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/07/glacier-national-park-quietly-removes-its-gone-by-2020-signs/ -- Dee ( talk) 12:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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Discussion about the title of this article and its recent change can be found at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Changing article titles from XXXXX (US) to XXXXX (United States). Feel free to contribute. -- hike395 16:51, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Given that the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Rethinking this decision is 5-1 in favor of using (US) for disambiguation, could we move this article back to Glacier National Park (US) ? Thanks! -- hike395 05:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I've uploaded some images to the Commons, in commons:Category:Glacier National Park. I also took the liberty of tagging the existing images there with the category, so they can be found and used more easily. -- E lkman - (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at this gif and let me know if it is useful in this article...I think it may be within the public domain but it is based on a few hypothesises that would need to be adequately clarified. gif is midpage: [2]-- MONGO 01:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I added some additional links but none of them seem to be working so I may delete them in a day or two if they don't fix themselves.-- MONGO 09:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the following articles still need to be written (according to the list you had on your user page and the redlinks in the current article):
(We can just strike these out or delete them as the links go blue.) Anything else that should be created?
Also, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to create a Glacier National Park (US) category for the articles related to Glacier National Park. What do you think? -- E lkman - (talk) 02:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
My understanding is that while acres is more commonly used in the U.S., hectares is actually only used by a relative few in those areas that use the metric system. Usually, those who use the metric system use square kilometers for larger areas. I can see why some would want to have square miles convert to square kilomters and acres to hectares, but it isn't that simple is it....in the U.S., few people I know identify area as square miles and most prefer the term acreage since they have a better concept of how big an acre is...you know, 40 acres and a mule, etc...they didn't say 4 square miles and a mule. My understanding of those peple who use the metric system is that hectares isn't widely used...comments?-- MONGO 16:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
We have bird woman falls listed as "perhaps the tallest waterfall" in the park. "Perhaps" seems odd phrasing--one would think it either would be or wouldn't be the tallest. The reference just gives a height, and [4] would seem to indicate that it may not in fact be the tallest. Unless I'm missing something here, we should probably remove the claim. -- Robth Talk 01:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Article is at 40kb...and shouldn't get a lot bigger unless we dicide to expand some areas. Been doing some fact checking and found a few misleading facts and have been working on correcting them. We still have the stubbies above and some wordplay here and there, but I think the article is close to being able to get it over to Peer Review in about a week or less. Any thoughts?-- MONGO 08:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
There is a new reference that is good for the glaciers with repeat photography. It does not contain any real new information on the glaciers just nice paired photographs [ [5]] Peltoms 15:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The article has been missing a ref since this edit of March 22, when the glaciers gone by 2030 statement was sourced to a named ref "retreat", but there is no named ref "retreat". Was there supposed to be a different ref named "retreat", or should the original source be restored? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
This page should be moved to Glacier National Park (United States). "US" is not very encyclopedic and should generally be avoided if possible. Funnyhat 21:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I propose we make sure this article is as good as it can be so we can try to get it on the main page on May 11, the 99th anniversary of the park. Jonathunder ( talk) 04:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
It looks like there's a lot of unsourced claims in here; most featured articles appear to have one reference per sentence or two. Silver Penguin ( talk) 21:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Will be working on trying to get this article to Featured Article level. The core of the article is excellent. I see major weak areas being a discussion of the glaciers themselves and how this park has had a lot of research done over a long period of time which clearly demostrates that the glaciers are retreating rapidly and may all disappear in a few decades. Expansion of the history, Native American issues of the park, flora and fauna, as well as recreation is in order as well...hope to target the article at less than 45 kb, but I am currently working on supporting stubs that can be simply linked from the main article within the text. I have stated accumulating existing and needed stubs here as follows:
-- MONGO 20:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Great work by everyone who did this - I especially love the beautiful photographs! Princess Caraboo ( talk) 13:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
The Canadian Lynx is mentioned in this article as one of two threatened species in Glacier NP. However, following the link shows the Canada Lynx (the correct name) is classified as Least Concern. I'm not an expert on threatened species, but I'm more inclined to believe the Lynx article than the Glacier article, so should this be changed? Boegiboe ( talk) 21:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Many of the historic photographs at Commons at Category:Walter_McClintock_Lantern_Slides appear to be from the Glacier National Park area. Someone familiar with the park could probably identify the mountains and lakes. The photos are described both as Blackfeet and Siksika Nation, from Montana. Someone familiar with the tribal history could probably determine how to categorize them correctly. If all this land was Blackfoot or Siksika Nation land at the time, should all the photos get those tags, even if they are only landscapes ? Djembayz ( talk) 18:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The location indicated on the map is the location of Yellowstone National Park. Wavelength 18:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: nomination withdrawn Armbrust The Homunculus 07:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Glacier National Park (U.S.) → Glacier National Park (United States) – I believe that the use of the full country name as the disambiguator is preferred, and the short form/abbreviation is discouraged. The Bushranger One ping only 21:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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Time for a new lead image maybe? Current one has many visible marks (dust spots from scanning a 35mm slide or negative maybe) and overexposed hairs along edges of the goat, and it's not very sharp and/or has shallow depth of field, while showing practically nothing of the mountainous terrain or glaciers. This image here, however, is clearer, sharper, with a balanced exposure, and includes mountains, glaciers, meadows, trees, a lake, and a mountain goat. OK, the goat's facing away from the article, and you can't see the eye detail, but otherwise it's a much better image for the infobox. It was uploaded about 2 months ago. Brian W. Schaller ( talk) 16:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
How are a documentary, a travelogue & a Cosmo article considered pop culture refs? I've mostly only seen feature films, TV shows, pop music, etc. style stuff in such sections. Shouldn't these three just be ext links, or maybe "Further reading" for the latter two? Brian W. Schaller ( talk) 15:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Grinnell Glacier a Jackson Glacier did grow (about 25% growth) from the year 2010. The article does not reflect that at all. Same for the consequent articles... https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/07/glacier-national-park-quietly-removes-its-gone-by-2020-signs/ -- Dee ( talk) 12:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)