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"Gilgamesh is written with the determinative for divine beings (DINGIR)" The reason this is so and there is no gilgamesh cult is because he was not a god, in the epic it states that he was part god part man, 2 thirds god, 1 third man, as a result his name would have been written to signify his deity heritage. - DAFONZ
The following is a translation of an article in the Brazilian language newspaper "Jornal do Brasil" that appeared 2 Feb 1993, pg 9.
Gilgamesh Saga
Ruins Reveal Details About the Assyrian Hero
ROME—An Italian archeologist managed to decipher a series of clay tablets with cuneiform inscriptions found close to Baghdad. The discovery of the tablets in the ruins of an ancient library in Sippar revealed new details about the adventures of the mythological hero Gilgamesh. The results of this research appear in the book “The Saga of Gilgamesh,” that went on sale yesterday in Milan by archeologist Giovanni Pettinato, who holds the Assyriology chair at the La Sapienza University in Rome. Gilgamesh was the main mythological hero of the civilizations in Sumeria, Assyria and Babylon. He was a man of great knowledge who tried to penetrate the mysteries of the universe. The main new concept in the recently deciphered tablets is the notion that a man can become a god by eating the flesh of a dead god. This idea of the Mesopotamian culture has similarities in the bible story about the tree of life. According to the serpent’s promise, Adam and Eve would become gods if they ate the forbidden fruit of the tree. The clay tablets were discovered in 1988 by a group of Iraqi archeologists who were working in the ancient city of Sippar, close to the temple dedicated to the sun god, Shamash. Within a hermetically sealed chamber there were more than a thousand tablets placed on shelves carved into the walls. The tablets date back to the reign of Nebuchadnezzar II, who oppressed the Jews and was king of Babylon in 604 B.C. In addition to the mythological story there are works on medicine, mathematics, history and legal texts. (Jornal do Brasil, 2 Feb 1993, pg 9)
What is the best way to make reference to this in the main article? I wish I could include a link to the original article but it does not appear to be archived on the web.
I don't see a substantial reason for the change to Before Christ in a non-Christian related article. Rupert Loup ( talk) 19:01, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@ Rupert Loup: Just to be clear, and to respond to your ping above, as IdreamofJeanie has said, I'm not proposing any change in the articles' era style. Paul August ☎ 23:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
How is it that this article talks about the modern period and the connections between Gilgamesh and the Hebrew Bible, but in the ancient period, only talks about Gilgamesh influencing the Greeks. Something is missing in the picture. There was obviously influence not only on the Greeks, but also on the Hebrews, so whatever historical-phenomenological picture that is currently portrayed in the article, is clearly distorted. Please one of the expert writers of this article fix it. Thanks. Jimhoward72 ( talk) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
He died in 1876.
In both his main books about Gilgamesh, Andrew R. George names him Bilgames (not Bilgamesh, or Bilgameš). You can review it in his introduction or contents or even in his other book. RousouR ( talk) 08:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
After reviewing his books, I noticed he uses Bilgames not only in introduction and contents, but in referring to and quoting from the Sumerian poems (for example throughout this part:
p. 141-
p. 208). It seems better to do the same here.
RousouR (
talk)
08:08, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
If he ruled 2900-2700 bc. Isn’t that the early 3rd millennium BC? Article says late 2nd millennium. 104.159.160.80 ( talk) 12:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
The name Gilgamesh also appears in the apocryphal Book of Giants in chapter 8, verse 8. 76.202.192.102 ( talk) 19:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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"Gilgamesh is written with the determinative for divine beings (DINGIR)" The reason this is so and there is no gilgamesh cult is because he was not a god, in the epic it states that he was part god part man, 2 thirds god, 1 third man, as a result his name would have been written to signify his deity heritage. - DAFONZ
The following is a translation of an article in the Brazilian language newspaper "Jornal do Brasil" that appeared 2 Feb 1993, pg 9.
Gilgamesh Saga
Ruins Reveal Details About the Assyrian Hero
ROME—An Italian archeologist managed to decipher a series of clay tablets with cuneiform inscriptions found close to Baghdad. The discovery of the tablets in the ruins of an ancient library in Sippar revealed new details about the adventures of the mythological hero Gilgamesh. The results of this research appear in the book “The Saga of Gilgamesh,” that went on sale yesterday in Milan by archeologist Giovanni Pettinato, who holds the Assyriology chair at the La Sapienza University in Rome. Gilgamesh was the main mythological hero of the civilizations in Sumeria, Assyria and Babylon. He was a man of great knowledge who tried to penetrate the mysteries of the universe. The main new concept in the recently deciphered tablets is the notion that a man can become a god by eating the flesh of a dead god. This idea of the Mesopotamian culture has similarities in the bible story about the tree of life. According to the serpent’s promise, Adam and Eve would become gods if they ate the forbidden fruit of the tree. The clay tablets were discovered in 1988 by a group of Iraqi archeologists who were working in the ancient city of Sippar, close to the temple dedicated to the sun god, Shamash. Within a hermetically sealed chamber there were more than a thousand tablets placed on shelves carved into the walls. The tablets date back to the reign of Nebuchadnezzar II, who oppressed the Jews and was king of Babylon in 604 B.C. In addition to the mythological story there are works on medicine, mathematics, history and legal texts. (Jornal do Brasil, 2 Feb 1993, pg 9)
What is the best way to make reference to this in the main article? I wish I could include a link to the original article but it does not appear to be archived on the web.
I don't see a substantial reason for the change to Before Christ in a non-Christian related article. Rupert Loup ( talk) 19:01, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@ Rupert Loup: Just to be clear, and to respond to your ping above, as IdreamofJeanie has said, I'm not proposing any change in the articles' era style. Paul August ☎ 23:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
How is it that this article talks about the modern period and the connections between Gilgamesh and the Hebrew Bible, but in the ancient period, only talks about Gilgamesh influencing the Greeks. Something is missing in the picture. There was obviously influence not only on the Greeks, but also on the Hebrews, so whatever historical-phenomenological picture that is currently portrayed in the article, is clearly distorted. Please one of the expert writers of this article fix it. Thanks. Jimhoward72 ( talk) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
He died in 1876.
In both his main books about Gilgamesh, Andrew R. George names him Bilgames (not Bilgamesh, or Bilgameš). You can review it in his introduction or contents or even in his other book. RousouR ( talk) 08:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
After reviewing his books, I noticed he uses Bilgames not only in introduction and contents, but in referring to and quoting from the Sumerian poems (for example throughout this part:
p. 141-
p. 208). It seems better to do the same here.
RousouR (
talk)
08:08, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
If he ruled 2900-2700 bc. Isn’t that the early 3rd millennium BC? Article says late 2nd millennium. 104.159.160.80 ( talk) 12:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
The name Gilgamesh also appears in the apocryphal Book of Giants in chapter 8, verse 8. 76.202.192.102 ( talk) 19:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)