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I’m a little confused as to why this film is supposedly consider the box office bomb because it made enough money to exceed production costs. 73.51.193.121 ( talk) 01:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
See above. Crboyer ( talk) 01:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
While I'm glad the article includes some Japanese response to the film (and more would be better if possible, but) unfortunately Yahoo! Movies Japan is not a good source. Wikipedia does not normally allow user voted web polls (such as IMDB scores) because they are unreliable and the Yahoo! Movies Japan score is based on votes from the web. WP:UGC -- 109.76.209.240 ( talk) 02:04, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
There seems to be some disagreement over this being a box office bomb or not. These claims were sourced and seemed reasonable, but if there are problems with the sources that should be discussed. Maybe more sources are needed.
One edit summary said "misleading to call this a bomb when it earned well over budget" but this seems to show a fundamental misunderstanding, films can earn more than their budget and still be considered a flop. The film only grossed 1.5 times production budget, and generally a film must earn 2 times the budget to break even (since theaters keep half the gross) and there are other costs such as P&A. It does seem like a flop to me, but instead of saying flop or bomb the article could use a more neutral wording and say "it was not a financial success". -- 109.78.196.37 ( talk) 06:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Funny thing I just noticed, this very article already had a discussion about this being a box office bomb, but it got moved to the archive Talk:Ghost_in_the_Shell_(2017_film)/Archive_1#Box_office_bomb. It included an article from the New York Times from 1987 that explains WHERE MOVIE TICKET INCOME GOES.
The article doesn't even get into Hollywood Accounting by which studios use all kinds of tricks to claim that a film has not made a profit despite no matter what happens. -- 109.76.239.236 ( talk) 16:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
This is really misrepresenting what Keiko Agena and other actresses said about the casting. It makes it sound like they didn't think it was that bad, but if you read the article, they were very critical. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ghost-shell-4-japanese-actresses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956 72.92.235.225 ( talk) 17:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I've listed below some countries for the country of production and the sources involved.
This is what i've come up with from various sources:
here (The BFI also goes into detail matching the production countries with production detail stating: "An Arad Productions: Arad Productions. in association with: Weying Galaxy. The filmmakers acknowledge the assistance of the: New Zealand Government’s Screen Production Grant present: Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Reliance Entertainment [presented] in association with: Shanghai Film Group, Huahua Media)
Per the above, I suggest we go with what the majority of sources state. (So USA (5), Hong Kong (4), China (4), India (4) and skip on Great Britain and Japan which are mentioned only by one source each. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 01:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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I’m a little confused as to why this film is supposedly consider the box office bomb because it made enough money to exceed production costs. 73.51.193.121 ( talk) 01:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
See above. Crboyer ( talk) 01:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
While I'm glad the article includes some Japanese response to the film (and more would be better if possible, but) unfortunately Yahoo! Movies Japan is not a good source. Wikipedia does not normally allow user voted web polls (such as IMDB scores) because they are unreliable and the Yahoo! Movies Japan score is based on votes from the web. WP:UGC -- 109.76.209.240 ( talk) 02:04, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
There seems to be some disagreement over this being a box office bomb or not. These claims were sourced and seemed reasonable, but if there are problems with the sources that should be discussed. Maybe more sources are needed.
One edit summary said "misleading to call this a bomb when it earned well over budget" but this seems to show a fundamental misunderstanding, films can earn more than their budget and still be considered a flop. The film only grossed 1.5 times production budget, and generally a film must earn 2 times the budget to break even (since theaters keep half the gross) and there are other costs such as P&A. It does seem like a flop to me, but instead of saying flop or bomb the article could use a more neutral wording and say "it was not a financial success". -- 109.78.196.37 ( talk) 06:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Funny thing I just noticed, this very article already had a discussion about this being a box office bomb, but it got moved to the archive Talk:Ghost_in_the_Shell_(2017_film)/Archive_1#Box_office_bomb. It included an article from the New York Times from 1987 that explains WHERE MOVIE TICKET INCOME GOES.
The article doesn't even get into Hollywood Accounting by which studios use all kinds of tricks to claim that a film has not made a profit despite no matter what happens. -- 109.76.239.236 ( talk) 16:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
This is really misrepresenting what Keiko Agena and other actresses said about the casting. It makes it sound like they didn't think it was that bad, but if you read the article, they were very critical. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ghost-shell-4-japanese-actresses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956 72.92.235.225 ( talk) 17:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I've listed below some countries for the country of production and the sources involved.
This is what i've come up with from various sources:
here (The BFI also goes into detail matching the production countries with production detail stating: "An Arad Productions: Arad Productions. in association with: Weying Galaxy. The filmmakers acknowledge the assistance of the: New Zealand Government’s Screen Production Grant present: Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Reliance Entertainment [presented] in association with: Shanghai Film Group, Huahua Media)
Per the above, I suggest we go with what the majority of sources state. (So USA (5), Hong Kong (4), China (4), India (4) and skip on Great Britain and Japan which are mentioned only by one source each. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas ( talk) 01:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)