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Please note - I checked it, and the readable prose in this article is only 48K - not 102K - see Wikipedia:Article size#What is and is not included as "readable prose". That's a little longer than the guidelines suggest, but my opinion is that it's within reason and I think it can stand as it is. Since the subject is deceased, there shouldn't be large amounts of material added to the article, so it isn't likely to get any bigger. Tvoz | talk 23:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm a big sports fan, but I wonder if a disproportionate amount of attention is given to GF's athletic career. It seems to me that the sports section has more detail than, say, important aspects of his foreign policy. I think this is an excellent article overall, but I wonder if the attention to sports doesn't border on the unencyclopedic. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benzocane ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
I removed the following:
First of all, the source does not say "pro-life" anywhere. It is original research to claim that Ford is "pro-life" based on the cited source. In fact, the way it reads is that he is trying to soften the fact that he would allow states to permit abortion, if they decided that on their own (and it wasn't on-demand). Next, we have multiple interviews were Ford explicitly identifies as being "pro-choice". All of this leads me to believe that the sentence I removed is simply inaccurate. Perhaps it is important to state somewhere his stance on this notable issue. What do others think, and does anyone have good sources about this from some of the better biographies on the man?- Andrew c 23:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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"The Best of Interviews With Gerald Ford". Larry King Live Weekend. CNN. 2001-02-03. Retrieved 2007-06-12.[/ref] I wanted to put it in the foot note, but it's strange to have foot notes inside footnotes. We could just create a section about his views on abortion. The reason I chose to include the content in the section I did is because his biggest political action in this regard occurred while he was Minority Leader.-
Andrew c
00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)I made that graph, maybe you would like to put it on the page.
-- Jean-Francois Landry 17:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The biography for the stepfather of Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his own name has been nominated for deletion. You can enter your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What kind of joke? The opening says that Ford died 8 years before becoming president. And, that Nixon left office for sugar production. 68.180.38.41 00:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The Death section says that his son, an Evangelical minister, performed last rites. The source cited also says this. Why would an Evangelical minister perform a Roman Catholic sacrament for his non-Catholic father? Surely the author of the cited source (and/or the source that the author used) was not very clear on the use of that term, and used the term to represent something that is not "last rites." —Preceding unsigned comment added by HolyT ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Recommend converting the cabinet table to use {{ Infobox U.S. Cabinet}}. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Would it be a problem replacing the retired number template with {{ Michigan Wolverines Football}}-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 20:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Could you cite where you found that "Gerald R. Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr. on July 14, 1913, at 12:43 a.m. CST, at 3202 Woolworth Avenue in Omaha, Nebraska"? -- Ivan Isaak ( talk) 18:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The quote "In fact, the Gallup poll the day before the election showed Ford held a statistically insignificant 1-point advantage over Carter.[87]" is somewhat misleading, and unnecessary. Without statistical significance, the lead isn't really notable at all, especially with the likely size of the sample. In any case, it's an extraneous piece of trivia that is not needed, especially with the material proceeding that line. I don't want to change it, though; I'm mostly a reader of Wikipedia, and this is a well-done article. Thanks. 66.82.162.17 ( talk) 10:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of Ford's corporate career. According to the theyrule.net he was on the board of directors of Citicorp for example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.155.13 ( talk) 06:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
At the moment the section on his presidency is a few (extremely negative) sentences and a link to the article on his tenure in the White House. Surely more space should be devoted to this in his own page. After all, most people would think of him as Former President Gerald Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.250.228 ( talk) 12:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
It is just plain silly that the section on his presidency doesn't even mention his pardon of Richard Nixon. Just to compound the omission, the first sentence of the following post-presidential years talks about the pardon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.134.9 ( talk) 21:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the Gerald_Ford#1976 presidential election is duplicated at the end of Presidency of Gerald Ford#1976 presidential election. I think that we should have only one such section and the other should be non-existent or a brief summary. Even though this is an FA, I have removed the duplication from this article and added a sentence to the "Presidency" section. It is unfortunate that, for reasons of article size, we need to delegate this big piece and yet we have no choice but to provide a full and balanced paragraph about his presidency in the lead section.-- Spellage ( talk) 05:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I've heard Ford was the last president who smoked in the White House, at least on a regular basis. Is this true? I've also heard smoking isn't allowed at the White House. When did the rule start? Is it only a rule for certain areas? Technically the 2nd floor is a private residence, so people could smoke there if they were allowed by the tennant, right? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 06:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
The White House is tax-payer funded housing. The president and their family cannot smoke inside the building because. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.28.25 ( talk) 14:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we remove the baby picture of him? it's kind of unnecessary and taking up space that could be used by something more helpful. 75.72.37.35 ( talk) 23:29, 21 April 2009 (U
actually they are cute so you should just leave them were they stand
The sentence saying he was the oldest living president sounds wrong. Why does it start with when in the parentheses?-- D3t3ctiv3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
"Ford generally believed in the single assassin theory.[43] According to the same reports, Ford generally had strong ties to the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover.[43]"
Looking at the archives for USA Today using Google news, I don't see this article. I do see an AP article, and a Washington Post one, but they don't say these 2 bits, as far as I can see. It does seem clear he SUPPORTS the theory... belief is not clear. Nothing about strong ties. He didn't meet with Hoover, just an aid, it seems. I am not challenging the content, but I am dubious. - sinneed ( talk) 15:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Obama, Clinton, Bush, W. Bush, Reagan, and Carter all have public image sections. I'd like to start one on Ford. This would be my jumping off point: [1].-- Louiedog ( talk) 17:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
If this article is to be an FA, it needs to have mostly sources from books. It's a relatively new FA rule. Just a heads up. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
4th paragraph in this section states Captain Ingersoll (of the Monterey) ordered Ford to lead a fire brigade below. This is inconsistent with the articles Typhoon Cobra (1944) and USS Monterey (CVL-26) which state Ford volunteered. Driftwood87 ( talk) 23:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Reverted edit by User:Binksternet. The original edit was to remove the word "ironically" (in the Longevity section) from the sentence about Ford's term in office being the shortest in the 20th century. Binksternet's comment was the word "ironically" was a POV issue. There is, in my opinion, no POV issue here. The statement of Ford's short term in office as President is preceded by the fact that he lived the 2nd longest time as former President. There is an irony in the contrast between these bits of information that is not POV. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. I have no problem with the change. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is Presidency of Gerald Ford a separate article? Please look at that article section-by-section, paragraph-by-paragraph before commenting. At least 90% of the article is completey identical to the main article to the word. There is no reason to have the inappropriate duplicate split, especially for a Featured Article. The redundant subarticle should be merged/redirected unless someone greatly modifies/expands it and makes proper use of WP:Summary style while not placing WP:undue weight in the article. Reywas92 Talk 01:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Unless there is additional support for the newly-added quote-boxes, I will remove them.- Sinneed 22:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
According to the article, Ford is "the only President of the United States who was elected neither President nor Vice-President." What about George W. Bush: was he elected or appointed by the Supreme Court of the United States? Shulgi ( talk) 16:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
This page never directly identifies Pre. Ford as a Republican - see format from other pages regarding presidential info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.139.3.25 ( talk) 19:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC) -- Opinion8it ( talk) 19:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In the sidebar "Spouse(s)" section this page reads "Elizabeth "Betty" Bloomer Ford (April 8, 1918 – July 8, 2011)," but on her page it shows "Gerald Ford (1948–2006, his death)." Shouldn't these both show the years of marriage, not the spouse's birth/death?
Ulmanor (
talk)
04:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that this part at the very bottom of the article claims that Gerald Ford is the most recent; however Sen. Byrd was lain in state in 2010. I don't know the proper way to fix this, furthermore, I'm editing this from a Best Buy Kiosk. Can someone please fix the succession box? 168.94.245.8 ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Please note - I checked it, and the readable prose in this article is only 48K - not 102K - see Wikipedia:Article size#What is and is not included as "readable prose". That's a little longer than the guidelines suggest, but my opinion is that it's within reason and I think it can stand as it is. Since the subject is deceased, there shouldn't be large amounts of material added to the article, so it isn't likely to get any bigger. Tvoz | talk 23:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm a big sports fan, but I wonder if a disproportionate amount of attention is given to GF's athletic career. It seems to me that the sports section has more detail than, say, important aspects of his foreign policy. I think this is an excellent article overall, but I wonder if the attention to sports doesn't border on the unencyclopedic. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benzocane ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
I removed the following:
First of all, the source does not say "pro-life" anywhere. It is original research to claim that Ford is "pro-life" based on the cited source. In fact, the way it reads is that he is trying to soften the fact that he would allow states to permit abortion, if they decided that on their own (and it wasn't on-demand). Next, we have multiple interviews were Ford explicitly identifies as being "pro-choice". All of this leads me to believe that the sentence I removed is simply inaccurate. Perhaps it is important to state somewhere his stance on this notable issue. What do others think, and does anyone have good sources about this from some of the better biographies on the man?- Andrew c 23:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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help)[/ref] In interviews given later in his lifetime, Ford identified as
pro-choice.[ref]
"The Best of Interviews With Gerald Ford". Larry King Live Weekend. CNN. 2001-02-03. Retrieved 2007-06-12.[/ref] I wanted to put it in the foot note, but it's strange to have foot notes inside footnotes. We could just create a section about his views on abortion. The reason I chose to include the content in the section I did is because his biggest political action in this regard occurred while he was Minority Leader.-
Andrew c
00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)I made that graph, maybe you would like to put it on the page.
-- Jean-Francois Landry 17:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The biography for the stepfather of Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his own name has been nominated for deletion. You can enter your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What kind of joke? The opening says that Ford died 8 years before becoming president. And, that Nixon left office for sugar production. 68.180.38.41 00:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The Death section says that his son, an Evangelical minister, performed last rites. The source cited also says this. Why would an Evangelical minister perform a Roman Catholic sacrament for his non-Catholic father? Surely the author of the cited source (and/or the source that the author used) was not very clear on the use of that term, and used the term to represent something that is not "last rites." —Preceding unsigned comment added by HolyT ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Recommend converting the cabinet table to use {{ Infobox U.S. Cabinet}}. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Would it be a problem replacing the retired number template with {{ Michigan Wolverines Football}}-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 20:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Could you cite where you found that "Gerald R. Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr. on July 14, 1913, at 12:43 a.m. CST, at 3202 Woolworth Avenue in Omaha, Nebraska"? -- Ivan Isaak ( talk) 18:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The quote "In fact, the Gallup poll the day before the election showed Ford held a statistically insignificant 1-point advantage over Carter.[87]" is somewhat misleading, and unnecessary. Without statistical significance, the lead isn't really notable at all, especially with the likely size of the sample. In any case, it's an extraneous piece of trivia that is not needed, especially with the material proceeding that line. I don't want to change it, though; I'm mostly a reader of Wikipedia, and this is a well-done article. Thanks. 66.82.162.17 ( talk) 10:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of Ford's corporate career. According to the theyrule.net he was on the board of directors of Citicorp for example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.155.13 ( talk) 06:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
At the moment the section on his presidency is a few (extremely negative) sentences and a link to the article on his tenure in the White House. Surely more space should be devoted to this in his own page. After all, most people would think of him as Former President Gerald Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.250.228 ( talk) 12:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
It is just plain silly that the section on his presidency doesn't even mention his pardon of Richard Nixon. Just to compound the omission, the first sentence of the following post-presidential years talks about the pardon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.134.9 ( talk) 21:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the Gerald_Ford#1976 presidential election is duplicated at the end of Presidency of Gerald Ford#1976 presidential election. I think that we should have only one such section and the other should be non-existent or a brief summary. Even though this is an FA, I have removed the duplication from this article and added a sentence to the "Presidency" section. It is unfortunate that, for reasons of article size, we need to delegate this big piece and yet we have no choice but to provide a full and balanced paragraph about his presidency in the lead section.-- Spellage ( talk) 05:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I've heard Ford was the last president who smoked in the White House, at least on a regular basis. Is this true? I've also heard smoking isn't allowed at the White House. When did the rule start? Is it only a rule for certain areas? Technically the 2nd floor is a private residence, so people could smoke there if they were allowed by the tennant, right? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 06:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
The White House is tax-payer funded housing. The president and their family cannot smoke inside the building because. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.28.25 ( talk) 14:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we remove the baby picture of him? it's kind of unnecessary and taking up space that could be used by something more helpful. 75.72.37.35 ( talk) 23:29, 21 April 2009 (U
actually they are cute so you should just leave them were they stand
The sentence saying he was the oldest living president sounds wrong. Why does it start with when in the parentheses?-- D3t3ctiv3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
"Ford generally believed in the single assassin theory.[43] According to the same reports, Ford generally had strong ties to the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover.[43]"
Looking at the archives for USA Today using Google news, I don't see this article. I do see an AP article, and a Washington Post one, but they don't say these 2 bits, as far as I can see. It does seem clear he SUPPORTS the theory... belief is not clear. Nothing about strong ties. He didn't meet with Hoover, just an aid, it seems. I am not challenging the content, but I am dubious. - sinneed ( talk) 15:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Obama, Clinton, Bush, W. Bush, Reagan, and Carter all have public image sections. I'd like to start one on Ford. This would be my jumping off point: [2].-- Louiedog ( talk) 17:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
If this article is to be an FA, it needs to have mostly sources from books. It's a relatively new FA rule. Just a heads up. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
4th paragraph in this section states Captain Ingersoll (of the Monterey) ordered Ford to lead a fire brigade below. This is inconsistent with the articles Typhoon Cobra (1944) and USS Monterey (CVL-26) which state Ford volunteered. Driftwood87 ( talk) 23:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Reverted edit by User:Binksternet. The original edit was to remove the word "ironically" (in the Longevity section) from the sentence about Ford's term in office being the shortest in the 20th century. Binksternet's comment was the word "ironically" was a POV issue. There is, in my opinion, no POV issue here. The statement of Ford's short term in office as President is preceded by the fact that he lived the 2nd longest time as former President. There is an irony in the contrast between these bits of information that is not POV. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. I have no problem with the change. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is Presidency of Gerald Ford a separate article? Please look at that article section-by-section, paragraph-by-paragraph before commenting. At least 90% of the article is completey identical to the main article to the word. There is no reason to have the inappropriate duplicate split, especially for a Featured Article. The redundant subarticle should be merged/redirected unless someone greatly modifies/expands it and makes proper use of WP:Summary style while not placing WP:undue weight in the article. Reywas92 Talk 01:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Unless there is additional support for the newly-added quote-boxes, I will remove them.- Sinneed 22:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
According to the article, Ford is "the only President of the United States who was elected neither President nor Vice-President." What about George W. Bush: was he elected or appointed by the Supreme Court of the United States? Shulgi ( talk) 16:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
This page never directly identifies Pre. Ford as a Republican - see format from other pages regarding presidential info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.139.3.25 ( talk) 19:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC) -- Opinion8it ( talk) 19:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In the sidebar "Spouse(s)" section this page reads "Elizabeth "Betty" Bloomer Ford (April 8, 1918 – July 8, 2011)," but on her page it shows "Gerald Ford (1948–2006, his death)." Shouldn't these both show the years of marriage, not the spouse's birth/death?
Ulmanor (
talk)
04:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that this part at the very bottom of the article claims that Gerald Ford is the most recent; however Sen. Byrd was lain in state in 2010. I don't know the proper way to fix this, furthermore, I'm editing this from a Best Buy Kiosk. Can someone please fix the succession box? 168.94.245.8 ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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Please note - I checked it, and the readable prose in this article is only 48K - not 102K - see Wikipedia:Article size#What is and is not included as "readable prose". That's a little longer than the guidelines suggest, but my opinion is that it's within reason and I think it can stand as it is. Since the subject is deceased, there shouldn't be large amounts of material added to the article, so it isn't likely to get any bigger. Tvoz | talk 23:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm a big sports fan, but I wonder if a disproportionate amount of attention is given to GF's athletic career. It seems to me that the sports section has more detail than, say, important aspects of his foreign policy. I think this is an excellent article overall, but I wonder if the attention to sports doesn't border on the unencyclopedic. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benzocane ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
I removed the following:
First of all, the source does not say "pro-life" anywhere. It is original research to claim that Ford is "pro-life" based on the cited source. In fact, the way it reads is that he is trying to soften the fact that he would allow states to permit abortion, if they decided that on their own (and it wasn't on-demand). Next, we have multiple interviews were Ford explicitly identifies as being "pro-choice". All of this leads me to believe that the sentence I removed is simply inaccurate. Perhaps it is important to state somewhere his stance on this notable issue. What do others think, and does anyone have good sources about this from some of the better biographies on the man?- Andrew c 23:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
{{
cite book}}
: |pages=
has extra text (
help)[/ref] In interviews given later in his lifetime, Ford identified as
pro-choice.[ref]
"The Best of Interviews With Gerald Ford". Larry King Live Weekend. CNN. 2001-02-03. Retrieved 2007-06-12.[/ref] I wanted to put it in the foot note, but it's strange to have foot notes inside footnotes. We could just create a section about his views on abortion. The reason I chose to include the content in the section I did is because his biggest political action in this regard occurred while he was Minority Leader.-
Andrew c
00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)I made that graph, maybe you would like to put it on the page.
-- Jean-Francois Landry 17:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The biography for the stepfather of Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his own name has been nominated for deletion. You can enter your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What kind of joke? The opening says that Ford died 8 years before becoming president. And, that Nixon left office for sugar production. 68.180.38.41 00:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The Death section says that his son, an Evangelical minister, performed last rites. The source cited also says this. Why would an Evangelical minister perform a Roman Catholic sacrament for his non-Catholic father? Surely the author of the cited source (and/or the source that the author used) was not very clear on the use of that term, and used the term to represent something that is not "last rites." —Preceding unsigned comment added by HolyT ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Recommend converting the cabinet table to use {{ Infobox U.S. Cabinet}}. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Would it be a problem replacing the retired number template with {{ Michigan Wolverines Football}}-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 20:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Could you cite where you found that "Gerald R. Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr. on July 14, 1913, at 12:43 a.m. CST, at 3202 Woolworth Avenue in Omaha, Nebraska"? -- Ivan Isaak ( talk) 18:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The quote "In fact, the Gallup poll the day before the election showed Ford held a statistically insignificant 1-point advantage over Carter.[87]" is somewhat misleading, and unnecessary. Without statistical significance, the lead isn't really notable at all, especially with the likely size of the sample. In any case, it's an extraneous piece of trivia that is not needed, especially with the material proceeding that line. I don't want to change it, though; I'm mostly a reader of Wikipedia, and this is a well-done article. Thanks. 66.82.162.17 ( talk) 10:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of Ford's corporate career. According to the theyrule.net he was on the board of directors of Citicorp for example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.155.13 ( talk) 06:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
At the moment the section on his presidency is a few (extremely negative) sentences and a link to the article on his tenure in the White House. Surely more space should be devoted to this in his own page. After all, most people would think of him as Former President Gerald Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.250.228 ( talk) 12:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
It is just plain silly that the section on his presidency doesn't even mention his pardon of Richard Nixon. Just to compound the omission, the first sentence of the following post-presidential years talks about the pardon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.134.9 ( talk) 21:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the Gerald_Ford#1976 presidential election is duplicated at the end of Presidency of Gerald Ford#1976 presidential election. I think that we should have only one such section and the other should be non-existent or a brief summary. Even though this is an FA, I have removed the duplication from this article and added a sentence to the "Presidency" section. It is unfortunate that, for reasons of article size, we need to delegate this big piece and yet we have no choice but to provide a full and balanced paragraph about his presidency in the lead section.-- Spellage ( talk) 05:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I've heard Ford was the last president who smoked in the White House, at least on a regular basis. Is this true? I've also heard smoking isn't allowed at the White House. When did the rule start? Is it only a rule for certain areas? Technically the 2nd floor is a private residence, so people could smoke there if they were allowed by the tennant, right? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 06:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
The White House is tax-payer funded housing. The president and their family cannot smoke inside the building because. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.28.25 ( talk) 14:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we remove the baby picture of him? it's kind of unnecessary and taking up space that could be used by something more helpful. 75.72.37.35 ( talk) 23:29, 21 April 2009 (U
actually they are cute so you should just leave them were they stand
The sentence saying he was the oldest living president sounds wrong. Why does it start with when in the parentheses?-- D3t3ctiv3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
"Ford generally believed in the single assassin theory.[43] According to the same reports, Ford generally had strong ties to the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover.[43]"
Looking at the archives for USA Today using Google news, I don't see this article. I do see an AP article, and a Washington Post one, but they don't say these 2 bits, as far as I can see. It does seem clear he SUPPORTS the theory... belief is not clear. Nothing about strong ties. He didn't meet with Hoover, just an aid, it seems. I am not challenging the content, but I am dubious. - sinneed ( talk) 15:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Obama, Clinton, Bush, W. Bush, Reagan, and Carter all have public image sections. I'd like to start one on Ford. This would be my jumping off point: [1].-- Louiedog ( talk) 17:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
If this article is to be an FA, it needs to have mostly sources from books. It's a relatively new FA rule. Just a heads up. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
4th paragraph in this section states Captain Ingersoll (of the Monterey) ordered Ford to lead a fire brigade below. This is inconsistent with the articles Typhoon Cobra (1944) and USS Monterey (CVL-26) which state Ford volunteered. Driftwood87 ( talk) 23:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Reverted edit by User:Binksternet. The original edit was to remove the word "ironically" (in the Longevity section) from the sentence about Ford's term in office being the shortest in the 20th century. Binksternet's comment was the word "ironically" was a POV issue. There is, in my opinion, no POV issue here. The statement of Ford's short term in office as President is preceded by the fact that he lived the 2nd longest time as former President. There is an irony in the contrast between these bits of information that is not POV. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. I have no problem with the change. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is Presidency of Gerald Ford a separate article? Please look at that article section-by-section, paragraph-by-paragraph before commenting. At least 90% of the article is completey identical to the main article to the word. There is no reason to have the inappropriate duplicate split, especially for a Featured Article. The redundant subarticle should be merged/redirected unless someone greatly modifies/expands it and makes proper use of WP:Summary style while not placing WP:undue weight in the article. Reywas92 Talk 01:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Unless there is additional support for the newly-added quote-boxes, I will remove them.- Sinneed 22:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
According to the article, Ford is "the only President of the United States who was elected neither President nor Vice-President." What about George W. Bush: was he elected or appointed by the Supreme Court of the United States? Shulgi ( talk) 16:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
This page never directly identifies Pre. Ford as a Republican - see format from other pages regarding presidential info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.139.3.25 ( talk) 19:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC) -- Opinion8it ( talk) 19:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In the sidebar "Spouse(s)" section this page reads "Elizabeth "Betty" Bloomer Ford (April 8, 1918 – July 8, 2011)," but on her page it shows "Gerald Ford (1948–2006, his death)." Shouldn't these both show the years of marriage, not the spouse's birth/death?
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Hi there, I noticed that this part at the very bottom of the article claims that Gerald Ford is the most recent; however Sen. Byrd was lain in state in 2010. I don't know the proper way to fix this, furthermore, I'm editing this from a Best Buy Kiosk. Can someone please fix the succession box? 168.94.245.8 ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Please note - I checked it, and the readable prose in this article is only 48K - not 102K - see Wikipedia:Article size#What is and is not included as "readable prose". That's a little longer than the guidelines suggest, but my opinion is that it's within reason and I think it can stand as it is. Since the subject is deceased, there shouldn't be large amounts of material added to the article, so it isn't likely to get any bigger. Tvoz | talk 23:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm a big sports fan, but I wonder if a disproportionate amount of attention is given to GF's athletic career. It seems to me that the sports section has more detail than, say, important aspects of his foreign policy. I think this is an excellent article overall, but I wonder if the attention to sports doesn't border on the unencyclopedic. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benzocane ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
I removed the following:
First of all, the source does not say "pro-life" anywhere. It is original research to claim that Ford is "pro-life" based on the cited source. In fact, the way it reads is that he is trying to soften the fact that he would allow states to permit abortion, if they decided that on their own (and it wasn't on-demand). Next, we have multiple interviews were Ford explicitly identifies as being "pro-choice". All of this leads me to believe that the sentence I removed is simply inaccurate. Perhaps it is important to state somewhere his stance on this notable issue. What do others think, and does anyone have good sources about this from some of the better biographies on the man?- Andrew c 23:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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"The Best of Interviews With Gerald Ford". Larry King Live Weekend. CNN. 2001-02-03. Retrieved 2007-06-12.[/ref] I wanted to put it in the foot note, but it's strange to have foot notes inside footnotes. We could just create a section about his views on abortion. The reason I chose to include the content in the section I did is because his biggest political action in this regard occurred while he was Minority Leader.-
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00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)I made that graph, maybe you would like to put it on the page.
-- Jean-Francois Landry 17:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The biography for the stepfather of Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his own name has been nominated for deletion. You can enter your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What kind of joke? The opening says that Ford died 8 years before becoming president. And, that Nixon left office for sugar production. 68.180.38.41 00:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The Death section says that his son, an Evangelical minister, performed last rites. The source cited also says this. Why would an Evangelical minister perform a Roman Catholic sacrament for his non-Catholic father? Surely the author of the cited source (and/or the source that the author used) was not very clear on the use of that term, and used the term to represent something that is not "last rites." —Preceding unsigned comment added by HolyT ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Recommend converting the cabinet table to use {{ Infobox U.S. Cabinet}}. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Would it be a problem replacing the retired number template with {{ Michigan Wolverines Football}}-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 20:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Could you cite where you found that "Gerald R. Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr. on July 14, 1913, at 12:43 a.m. CST, at 3202 Woolworth Avenue in Omaha, Nebraska"? -- Ivan Isaak ( talk) 18:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The quote "In fact, the Gallup poll the day before the election showed Ford held a statistically insignificant 1-point advantage over Carter.[87]" is somewhat misleading, and unnecessary. Without statistical significance, the lead isn't really notable at all, especially with the likely size of the sample. In any case, it's an extraneous piece of trivia that is not needed, especially with the material proceeding that line. I don't want to change it, though; I'm mostly a reader of Wikipedia, and this is a well-done article. Thanks. 66.82.162.17 ( talk) 10:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of Ford's corporate career. According to the theyrule.net he was on the board of directors of Citicorp for example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.155.13 ( talk) 06:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
At the moment the section on his presidency is a few (extremely negative) sentences and a link to the article on his tenure in the White House. Surely more space should be devoted to this in his own page. After all, most people would think of him as Former President Gerald Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.250.228 ( talk) 12:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
It is just plain silly that the section on his presidency doesn't even mention his pardon of Richard Nixon. Just to compound the omission, the first sentence of the following post-presidential years talks about the pardon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.134.9 ( talk) 21:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the Gerald_Ford#1976 presidential election is duplicated at the end of Presidency of Gerald Ford#1976 presidential election. I think that we should have only one such section and the other should be non-existent or a brief summary. Even though this is an FA, I have removed the duplication from this article and added a sentence to the "Presidency" section. It is unfortunate that, for reasons of article size, we need to delegate this big piece and yet we have no choice but to provide a full and balanced paragraph about his presidency in the lead section.-- Spellage ( talk) 05:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I've heard Ford was the last president who smoked in the White House, at least on a regular basis. Is this true? I've also heard smoking isn't allowed at the White House. When did the rule start? Is it only a rule for certain areas? Technically the 2nd floor is a private residence, so people could smoke there if they were allowed by the tennant, right? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 06:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
The White House is tax-payer funded housing. The president and their family cannot smoke inside the building because. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.28.25 ( talk) 14:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we remove the baby picture of him? it's kind of unnecessary and taking up space that could be used by something more helpful. 75.72.37.35 ( talk) 23:29, 21 April 2009 (U
actually they are cute so you should just leave them were they stand
The sentence saying he was the oldest living president sounds wrong. Why does it start with when in the parentheses?-- D3t3ctiv3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
"Ford generally believed in the single assassin theory.[43] According to the same reports, Ford generally had strong ties to the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover.[43]"
Looking at the archives for USA Today using Google news, I don't see this article. I do see an AP article, and a Washington Post one, but they don't say these 2 bits, as far as I can see. It does seem clear he SUPPORTS the theory... belief is not clear. Nothing about strong ties. He didn't meet with Hoover, just an aid, it seems. I am not challenging the content, but I am dubious. - sinneed ( talk) 15:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Obama, Clinton, Bush, W. Bush, Reagan, and Carter all have public image sections. I'd like to start one on Ford. This would be my jumping off point: [2].-- Louiedog ( talk) 17:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
If this article is to be an FA, it needs to have mostly sources from books. It's a relatively new FA rule. Just a heads up. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
4th paragraph in this section states Captain Ingersoll (of the Monterey) ordered Ford to lead a fire brigade below. This is inconsistent with the articles Typhoon Cobra (1944) and USS Monterey (CVL-26) which state Ford volunteered. Driftwood87 ( talk) 23:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Reverted edit by User:Binksternet. The original edit was to remove the word "ironically" (in the Longevity section) from the sentence about Ford's term in office being the shortest in the 20th century. Binksternet's comment was the word "ironically" was a POV issue. There is, in my opinion, no POV issue here. The statement of Ford's short term in office as President is preceded by the fact that he lived the 2nd longest time as former President. There is an irony in the contrast between these bits of information that is not POV. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. I have no problem with the change. LarryJeff ( talk) 15:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is Presidency of Gerald Ford a separate article? Please look at that article section-by-section, paragraph-by-paragraph before commenting. At least 90% of the article is completey identical to the main article to the word. There is no reason to have the inappropriate duplicate split, especially for a Featured Article. The redundant subarticle should be merged/redirected unless someone greatly modifies/expands it and makes proper use of WP:Summary style while not placing WP:undue weight in the article. Reywas92 Talk 01:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Unless there is additional support for the newly-added quote-boxes, I will remove them.- Sinneed 22:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
According to the article, Ford is "the only President of the United States who was elected neither President nor Vice-President." What about George W. Bush: was he elected or appointed by the Supreme Court of the United States? Shulgi ( talk) 16:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
This page never directly identifies Pre. Ford as a Republican - see format from other pages regarding presidential info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.139.3.25 ( talk) 19:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC) -- Opinion8it ( talk) 19:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In the sidebar "Spouse(s)" section this page reads "Elizabeth "Betty" Bloomer Ford (April 8, 1918 – July 8, 2011)," but on her page it shows "Gerald Ford (1948–2006, his death)." Shouldn't these both show the years of marriage, not the spouse's birth/death?
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04:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that this part at the very bottom of the article claims that Gerald Ford is the most recent; however Sen. Byrd was lain in state in 2010. I don't know the proper way to fix this, furthermore, I'm editing this from a Best Buy Kiosk. Can someone please fix the succession box? 168.94.245.8 ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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