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So is it like Italy where only half the CO2 can be reinjected? Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:50, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
http://www.jeotermaletki.com/en/announcement/2019/final-best-practice-guide-has-been-published more could be added from this
The article does not currently make it clear how many of the existing plants (if any) are binary cycle. This seems highly relevant given that the geothermal fluids are unusually high in CO2. If plants are binary cycle, I understand this means that geothermal fluids are returned to the reservoir and are not released to atmosphere. This would presumably mean negligible CO2 emissions ? This point about flash plants versus binary plants seems worth covering in the article. Marshelec ( talk) 07:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Vice regent ( talk · contribs) 05:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Starting to read the article, will review it in a few days. VR talk 05:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Chidgk1, I'm currently reading the article. Like the other article I GA-reviewed, it feels short. But can you quickly fix this: Geothermal energy in Turkey#Sources. I haven't see other articles on wikipedia have such a section. If you're not sure how best to attribute, maybe we can ask someone. VR talk 20:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Here are some ideas for expansion:
VR talk 20:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Sources differ on CO2 emissions by geothermal plants in Turkey. X says A, although Y says B...." BTW, the following sentence doesn't make a lot of sense: "
A European study showing no net increase in CO2 did not include Turkey". What did not include Turkey? VR talk 04:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the updates. I still have some suggestions. Research section can be increased significantly more (I say this because wikipedia is built on published RS, and scientific research is an are of active publishing). Here are my suggestions:
VR talk 21:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
However the carbon price in Iceland is the same as the EU Allowance (around 80 euros a tonne in mid-2022),[42] whereas in Turkey it is zero." I think I can guess, but please explain in the article.
"public finance is more beneficial if it addresses early-stage risks."".
The Geothermal Power Plant Investors Association said in February 2022 that the interest on lira loans was about 24%, and that it was nonviable to invest at the then feed in tariff (also in lira)"? Can you expand and explain?
VR talk 06:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC) More comments:
There are both existing and planned plants in environmentally sensitive areas" what areas are these? Why are they environmentally sensitive?
that it was nonviable to invest at the then feed in tariff."
VR talk 23:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
For plants started between 2010 and 2021 the Renewable Energy Support Scheme feed-in tariff was 10.5 US cent/kWh". I'm asking since its in the history section. VR talk 09:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Here's a formal review:
A lot of good effort has been put into the article. It has been challenging to review as there are not a lot of "Geothermal in X" GAs.
Looks good, passing. Congratulations and thanks for all the hard work! VR talk 00:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
I moved the below from the article - see above GA comment. Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC) This article incorporates text from a free content work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 IGO Text taken from UNESCO Science Report: the Race Against Time for Smarter Development, UNESCO, UNESCO publishing. To learn how to add open license text to Wikipedia articles, please see this how-to page. For information on reusing text from Wikipedia, please see the terms of use.
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 19:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 ( talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: better hook and fixing some of the close paraphrasing and we are good! Seddon talk 02:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Could not find a better pic sorry but fixed copyvio (I think - Earwig is not working for me right now) Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the Romans enjoyed balneotherapy from geothermal energy in Turkey? Source: Hierapolis is an exceptional example of a Greco-Roman thermal installation established on an extraordinary natural site. The therapeutic virtues of the waters were exploited at the various thermal installations, which included immense hot basins and pools for swimming. https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/485/
ALT2 ... that to effect greenhouse warming global hottest is
geothermal energy in Turkey? (will cite if you like it)
Chidgk1 (
talk) 11:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that
reinjection is good
protection, against a
greenhouse effect when
effecting greenhouse warming? (will cite if you like it)
Chidgk1 (
talk) 13:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT4 ... that, for
hot Turkey, to avoid passing foul-smelling gas and annoying people nearby it is important to make sure we have
reinjection.
@ Seddon: I just noticed you are an ex-geologist. As well as checking above hooks, if you have time could you tell me whether the geology parts of the article could be improved at all? Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Seddon I hope you are well. Are you happy with any of the ALT hooks? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: In attempt to make the process clearer I put a strike through the original hook as this seems to have been replaced by ALT1. I also struck ALT2, ALT3, and ALT4 in agreement with the above comments about issues with them. Noting that DYK now shows pictures at slightly more than 100 px I think the image is acceptable for consideration. If a citation can be added to "Environmental impact and public opinion" and the details in ALT1 - personally my favourite hook - added to the article then this is good to go. CSJJ104 ( talk) 15:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Created a map (below) and Data.map dataset on Commons to show the geothermal plants in Turkey. I propose added this kind of map to the article. The plants shown are from the "Global Power Plant Database" v1.3.0. More plants can be added into this dataset by editing the Geojson with lat/long and labels. Any comments?
@ Chidgk1: I saw your request from 29 June 2022 at the GL/Map workshop. Created this type of data-driven map to meet your requirements. Let me know if you need any help. - DutchTreat ( talk) 12:56, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Geothermal energy in Turkey has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | |||||||||||||
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A
fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
September 13, 2022. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Romans enjoyed
balneotherapy from
geothermal energy in Turkey? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Good article |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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So is it like Italy where only half the CO2 can be reinjected? Chidgk1 ( talk) 19:50, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
http://www.jeotermaletki.com/en/announcement/2019/final-best-practice-guide-has-been-published more could be added from this
The article does not currently make it clear how many of the existing plants (if any) are binary cycle. This seems highly relevant given that the geothermal fluids are unusually high in CO2. If plants are binary cycle, I understand this means that geothermal fluids are returned to the reservoir and are not released to atmosphere. This would presumably mean negligible CO2 emissions ? This point about flash plants versus binary plants seems worth covering in the article. Marshelec ( talk) 07:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Vice regent ( talk · contribs) 05:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Starting to read the article, will review it in a few days. VR talk 05:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Chidgk1, I'm currently reading the article. Like the other article I GA-reviewed, it feels short. But can you quickly fix this: Geothermal energy in Turkey#Sources. I haven't see other articles on wikipedia have such a section. If you're not sure how best to attribute, maybe we can ask someone. VR talk 20:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Here are some ideas for expansion:
VR talk 20:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Sources differ on CO2 emissions by geothermal plants in Turkey. X says A, although Y says B...." BTW, the following sentence doesn't make a lot of sense: "
A European study showing no net increase in CO2 did not include Turkey". What did not include Turkey? VR talk 04:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the updates. I still have some suggestions. Research section can be increased significantly more (I say this because wikipedia is built on published RS, and scientific research is an are of active publishing). Here are my suggestions:
VR talk 21:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
However the carbon price in Iceland is the same as the EU Allowance (around 80 euros a tonne in mid-2022),[42] whereas in Turkey it is zero." I think I can guess, but please explain in the article.
"public finance is more beneficial if it addresses early-stage risks."".
The Geothermal Power Plant Investors Association said in February 2022 that the interest on lira loans was about 24%, and that it was nonviable to invest at the then feed in tariff (also in lira)"? Can you expand and explain?
VR talk 06:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC) More comments:
There are both existing and planned plants in environmentally sensitive areas" what areas are these? Why are they environmentally sensitive?
that it was nonviable to invest at the then feed in tariff."
VR talk 23:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
For plants started between 2010 and 2021 the Renewable Energy Support Scheme feed-in tariff was 10.5 US cent/kWh". I'm asking since its in the history section. VR talk 09:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Here's a formal review:
A lot of good effort has been put into the article. It has been challenging to review as there are not a lot of "Geothermal in X" GAs.
Looks good, passing. Congratulations and thanks for all the hard work! VR talk 00:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
I moved the below from the article - see above GA comment. Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC) This article incorporates text from a free content work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 IGO Text taken from UNESCO Science Report: the Race Against Time for Smarter Development, UNESCO, UNESCO publishing. To learn how to add open license text to Wikipedia articles, please see this how-to page. For information on reusing text from Wikipedia, please see the terms of use.
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 19:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 ( talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image eligibility:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: better hook and fixing some of the close paraphrasing and we are good! Seddon talk 02:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Could not find a better pic sorry but fixed copyvio (I think - Earwig is not working for me right now) Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the Romans enjoyed balneotherapy from geothermal energy in Turkey? Source: Hierapolis is an exceptional example of a Greco-Roman thermal installation established on an extraordinary natural site. The therapeutic virtues of the waters were exploited at the various thermal installations, which included immense hot basins and pools for swimming. https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/485/
ALT2 ... that to effect greenhouse warming global hottest is
geothermal energy in Turkey? (will cite if you like it)
Chidgk1 (
talk) 11:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that
reinjection is good
protection, against a
greenhouse effect when
effecting greenhouse warming? (will cite if you like it)
Chidgk1 (
talk) 13:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT4 ... that, for
hot Turkey, to avoid passing foul-smelling gas and annoying people nearby it is important to make sure we have
reinjection.
@ Seddon: I just noticed you are an ex-geologist. As well as checking above hooks, if you have time could you tell me whether the geology parts of the article could be improved at all? Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Seddon I hope you are well. Are you happy with any of the ALT hooks? Chidgk1 ( talk) 12:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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|
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: In attempt to make the process clearer I put a strike through the original hook as this seems to have been replaced by ALT1. I also struck ALT2, ALT3, and ALT4 in agreement with the above comments about issues with them. Noting that DYK now shows pictures at slightly more than 100 px I think the image is acceptable for consideration. If a citation can be added to "Environmental impact and public opinion" and the details in ALT1 - personally my favourite hook - added to the article then this is good to go. CSJJ104 ( talk) 15:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Created a map (below) and Data.map dataset on Commons to show the geothermal plants in Turkey. I propose added this kind of map to the article. The plants shown are from the "Global Power Plant Database" v1.3.0. More plants can be added into this dataset by editing the Geojson with lat/long and labels. Any comments?
@ Chidgk1: I saw your request from 29 June 2022 at the GL/Map workshop. Created this type of data-driven map to meet your requirements. Let me know if you need any help. - DutchTreat ( talk) 12:56, 30 March 2023 (UTC)