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I shifted the article about for greater cohesion. I also edited the section on repatriation: most returned POWs were imprisoned, not executed. Crocodilicus 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I first found out about the Texel uprising from a passage in Max Hastings' book 'Armageddon' which is about the last months of the Second World War in Europe. I'm delighted to see this article on the battle on Wikipedia and would like to thank those who have contributed. However, there is one point that confuses me. The article states that bloodshed continued on Texel after VE day (May 8) and before the Canadians actually physically arrived and finished things off 12 days later. What exactly was happening in this period? Were Georgians actively resisting still, or does the word bloodshed refer to the Germans executing captured Georgian fighters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.8.253 ( talk) 11:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Fighting continued for those 12 days. Georgians were terribly outnumbered but made the last stand... They were forced to fight partisanic battle. Farmers would barry them underground during the day, at night they would come out and resume the battle.
I couldn't understand this passage:
"Under the control of advancing Allied forces". It seems that those soldiers were under the command of soviet allies, by the statement. Wold it be Axis forces?
I couldn't find anything like that on Wikipedia.
Ihsuss 03:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Why do en: and nl: disagree on the starting date? Aliter 22:25, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 15:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Casulties amongst the germans in the first days of ambush and battle were more than 800, but than rised up to nearly 2000, when reinforcements arrived, after the georgians failed to take over the artillery bunkers. Nevertheless, they still were able to repel several german attacks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.196.122.141 ( talk) 07:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the result from the infobox, as it's hardly appropriate to call this a German victory.
The Georgians killed most of the garrison and seized most of the island; then the Germans came back and killed most of the Georgians; then the Canadians came and enforced the German surrender (quite a lot of this happened after
8 May); and the Dutch got a lot of hardship, then got their island back. So they could all be described as "victors" at different times. More realistically, they all were the losers...
Xyl 54 (
talk) 23:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The result in the infobox was changed from "Not applicable" to "German tactical victory", with the edit summary "There WAS a clear-cut result; it didn't have any effect on the war, of course, but there was a clear result nonetheless"
I've changed it back, as it wasn't clear-cut at all, for the reasons outlined
above, and I've added a footnote to that effect. If anyone has a reason why the German success should be singled out, the discussion is open.
Xyl 54 (
talk) 23:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
The Battle of Odžak happened and ended prior to this, so I will remove BBC's claim. -- Steverci ( talk) 17:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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This article seems to refer to the 882nd Infantry Battalion, when other pages on the Georgian Legion (1941-1945) seem to predominantly refer to the 822nd Infantry Battalion as Königin Tamara. So for the sake of historical (and article) clarity, which is the correct one? 2A02:A443:FA31:1:6974:BF57:3D2D:64AD ( talk) 19:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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I shifted the article about for greater cohesion. I also edited the section on repatriation: most returned POWs were imprisoned, not executed. Crocodilicus 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I first found out about the Texel uprising from a passage in Max Hastings' book 'Armageddon' which is about the last months of the Second World War in Europe. I'm delighted to see this article on the battle on Wikipedia and would like to thank those who have contributed. However, there is one point that confuses me. The article states that bloodshed continued on Texel after VE day (May 8) and before the Canadians actually physically arrived and finished things off 12 days later. What exactly was happening in this period? Were Georgians actively resisting still, or does the word bloodshed refer to the Germans executing captured Georgian fighters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.8.253 ( talk) 11:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Fighting continued for those 12 days. Georgians were terribly outnumbered but made the last stand... They were forced to fight partisanic battle. Farmers would barry them underground during the day, at night they would come out and resume the battle.
I couldn't understand this passage:
"Under the control of advancing Allied forces". It seems that those soldiers were under the command of soviet allies, by the statement. Wold it be Axis forces?
I couldn't find anything like that on Wikipedia.
Ihsuss 03:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Why do en: and nl: disagree on the starting date? Aliter 22:25, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 15:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Casulties amongst the germans in the first days of ambush and battle were more than 800, but than rised up to nearly 2000, when reinforcements arrived, after the georgians failed to take over the artillery bunkers. Nevertheless, they still were able to repel several german attacks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.196.122.141 ( talk) 07:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the result from the infobox, as it's hardly appropriate to call this a German victory.
The Georgians killed most of the garrison and seized most of the island; then the Germans came back and killed most of the Georgians; then the Canadians came and enforced the German surrender (quite a lot of this happened after
8 May); and the Dutch got a lot of hardship, then got their island back. So they could all be described as "victors" at different times. More realistically, they all were the losers...
Xyl 54 (
talk) 23:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The result in the infobox was changed from "Not applicable" to "German tactical victory", with the edit summary "There WAS a clear-cut result; it didn't have any effect on the war, of course, but there was a clear result nonetheless"
I've changed it back, as it wasn't clear-cut at all, for the reasons outlined
above, and I've added a footnote to that effect. If anyone has a reason why the German success should be singled out, the discussion is open.
Xyl 54 (
talk) 23:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
The Battle of Odžak happened and ended prior to this, so I will remove BBC's claim. -- Steverci ( talk) 17:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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This article seems to refer to the 882nd Infantry Battalion, when other pages on the Georgian Legion (1941-1945) seem to predominantly refer to the 822nd Infantry Battalion as Königin Tamara. So for the sake of historical (and article) clarity, which is the correct one? 2A02:A443:FA31:1:6974:BF57:3D2D:64AD ( talk) 19:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)