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June 20th 2020 Action was cohosted by Columbus Freedom Coalition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dulcee1999 ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: procedural close. The moratorium on moves I applied to George Floyd protests is extended to subarticles. We are not going to have this same discussion from one article to the next. The consensus for "protests" versus "+riots" from the parent article is not a discussion that needs to happen in each and every one of the local articles, regardless of what the original title is set up as. El_C 01:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC) ~~~~
George Floyd protests and riots in Columbus, Ohio → George Floyd protests in Columbus, Ohio – This article is a spin-off of George Floyd protests. As it has just been decided that the George Floyd protests will stay at that name for the near future, and all other spinoffs plus the category also carry this name, it would desirable to follow our standard also here. gidonb ( talk) 23:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I should note the article's photos misrepresent this likely to all the commentators here. View videos, eg on Facebook livestreams, there have been violent riots each night. Most of the photographers here haven't been willing to experience that level of risk, creating a misleading idea of the severity of the situation. ɱ (talk) 00:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I removed the words "assault" and "arson" [1] from the infobox because they are not mentioned in the article. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 01:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Suggest removing the term “defamatory” in reference to “ACAB”. The article for ACAB does not use the term defamatory, and calling the slogan defamatory implies it's false. I think that's a value judgement outside of the scope of this article. (Forgive me for not knowing what Wikipedia:
pages to cite here ;) )
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talk) 04:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
(I've made this edit.) Mouthpity ( talk) 15:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I've created WikiProject Black Lives Matter for interested editors. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
-- ɱ (talk) 21:08, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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This is the
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Frequently asked questions Q1: Does it have to say "white" police officer?
A1: Yes, because almost all reliable sources emphasize the significance of this fact. Q2: I read some information on the web that isn't in this article!
A2: When proposing anything to be added to the article you need to cite a
reliable source;
secondary sources are generally preferred over
primary. Q3: This article is biased (for/against), or (whitewashes/blames), (Floyd/police)!
A3: See our
neutral point of view policy. Complaints of bias must be accompanied by specific concerns or suggestions for change. Vague, general statements don't help. Q4: Why is this article calling it a murder instead of a death/killing?
A4: As a person was formally convicted for murder in a court of law, the article uses the term "murder", in line with the community guidance at
WP:MURDERS. Q5: Wasn't Floyd killed near a store called Cub Foods, not Cup Foods?
A5: The store is Cup Foods, and is not affiliated with the
Cub Foods store chain. Q6: Why does the article use such a graphic photo? Isn't it in poor taste?
A6: The lead image was determined by the community in a
formal Request for Comment process. The RfC reached an "overwhelming consensus" that "...the image, despite it being traumatizing, should be kept per WP:NOTCENSORED, as it is an appropriate representation of the topic." Q7: Why was my request or comment removed?
A7: Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to describe Floyd's murder using other terms (e.g. "death", "overdose") or to change the name of the article accordingly will be removed without consideration, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines and essays, including
WP:Requested moves,
WP:Common name,
WP:Article titles,
WP:Naming conventions (violence and deaths), and
WP:Reliable sources. Anyone removing such requests should include a link to this FAQ in their edit summary. Q8: Why do we not call the protests riots?
A8: Because most reliable sources call them protests, not riots. Q9: Did he not die of a drug overdose?
A9: No, whilst fentanyl was a contributory factor, his death certificate lists his cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". |
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June 20th 2020 Action was cohosted by Columbus Freedom Coalition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dulcee1999 ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: procedural close. The moratorium on moves I applied to George Floyd protests is extended to subarticles. We are not going to have this same discussion from one article to the next. The consensus for "protests" versus "+riots" from the parent article is not a discussion that needs to happen in each and every one of the local articles, regardless of what the original title is set up as. El_C 01:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC) ~~~~
George Floyd protests and riots in Columbus, Ohio → George Floyd protests in Columbus, Ohio – This article is a spin-off of George Floyd protests. As it has just been decided that the George Floyd protests will stay at that name for the near future, and all other spinoffs plus the category also carry this name, it would desirable to follow our standard also here. gidonb ( talk) 23:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I should note the article's photos misrepresent this likely to all the commentators here. View videos, eg on Facebook livestreams, there have been violent riots each night. Most of the photographers here haven't been willing to experience that level of risk, creating a misleading idea of the severity of the situation. ɱ (talk) 00:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I removed the words "assault" and "arson" [1] from the infobox because they are not mentioned in the article. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 01:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Suggest removing the term “defamatory” in reference to “ACAB”. The article for ACAB does not use the term defamatory, and calling the slogan defamatory implies it's false. I think that's a value judgement outside of the scope of this article. (Forgive me for not knowing what Wikipedia:
pages to cite here ;) )
Mouthpity (
talk) 04:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
(I've made this edit.) Mouthpity ( talk) 15:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I've created WikiProject Black Lives Matter for interested editors. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
-- ɱ (talk) 21:08, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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