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The footnotes mention the names of 3 pdf files. However without the complete download address this information is completely useless to the interested reader. Please provide the relevant information soon. Arnoutf ( talk) 21:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I was just in the middle of doing this when you caused an editing conflict and spoilt my transfer of data. Don't be so impatient, o.k.? Ad43 ( talk) 10:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I know, and I don't blame you for this, but unfortunately it causes much additional effort. Ad43 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 10:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
While you maybe right that 'some surveys' include Delft in the The Hague large agglomeration, the sources provided at the top of the list do not include it. Based on these sources Delft cannot be listed. If there are other sources that explciitly include Delft, these should be used, instead of the current ones.
This does however raise the point how well-defined the agglomerations are when different surveys arrive at different conclusions. I would suggest that we make a short introduction stating that there is general agreement, but that some small differences between surveys (and probably institutes) exist. That this does not matter for the gist of the argument and that we will adopt the agglomeration definition of CBS / NIDI or whatever relevant Dutch institute we can come up with. Does that sound ok?
Arnoutf (
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11:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
For some reason Emmen was mentioned in this list, which is wrong. The number of inhabitants for the city of Emmen is around 55000. The municipality has 100000+. NitroX infinity ( talk) 10:22, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence currently links to the Netherlands, which is the article on the main constituent country of the the Kingdom of the Netherlands. This constituent country includes the BES islands. However, the present article elusively provides its content for the European part of the Netherlands excluding the BES islands.
Since I cannot change the whole article at once, I will for now simply fix this problem by stating which Netherlands is meant (i.e., mainland) in the lead sentence. However, I think that conversely, the article should be about the Netherlands and not just its mainland. This will require a lot of work (e.g., the highest mountain is on Saba).
Before I start with such a makeover (if I ever find the time), I wanted to hear second thoughts:
I look forward to receiving your input. ˜˜˜˜
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 14:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Geography of the European Netherlands → Geography of the Netherlands – First of all it is a common name of the subject, Geography of the Netherlands, please check out any search, plain google, scholars, books etc. It is also creates a confusion, see the section European Netherlands OR the constituent country of the kingdom? directly above. For Denmark the article's titles is Geography of Denmark with a hatnote: This article is about Denmark proper. For the geography of the Danish Kingdom's autonomous territories, see Geography of the Faroe Islands and Geography of Greenland. For France the article's titles is Geography of France and not Geography of Metropolitan France or Geography of European France. Dgvby ( talk) 08:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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![]() | On 31 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Geography of the European Netherlands to Geography of the Netherlands. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The footnotes mention the names of 3 pdf files. However without the complete download address this information is completely useless to the interested reader. Please provide the relevant information soon. Arnoutf ( talk) 21:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I was just in the middle of doing this when you caused an editing conflict and spoilt my transfer of data. Don't be so impatient, o.k.? Ad43 ( talk) 10:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I know, and I don't blame you for this, but unfortunately it causes much additional effort. Ad43 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 10:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
While you maybe right that 'some surveys' include Delft in the The Hague large agglomeration, the sources provided at the top of the list do not include it. Based on these sources Delft cannot be listed. If there are other sources that explciitly include Delft, these should be used, instead of the current ones.
This does however raise the point how well-defined the agglomerations are when different surveys arrive at different conclusions. I would suggest that we make a short introduction stating that there is general agreement, but that some small differences between surveys (and probably institutes) exist. That this does not matter for the gist of the argument and that we will adopt the agglomeration definition of CBS / NIDI or whatever relevant Dutch institute we can come up with. Does that sound ok?
Arnoutf (
talk)
11:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
For some reason Emmen was mentioned in this list, which is wrong. The number of inhabitants for the city of Emmen is around 55000. The municipality has 100000+. NitroX infinity ( talk) 10:22, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence currently links to the Netherlands, which is the article on the main constituent country of the the Kingdom of the Netherlands. This constituent country includes the BES islands. However, the present article elusively provides its content for the European part of the Netherlands excluding the BES islands.
Since I cannot change the whole article at once, I will for now simply fix this problem by stating which Netherlands is meant (i.e., mainland) in the lead sentence. However, I think that conversely, the article should be about the Netherlands and not just its mainland. This will require a lot of work (e.g., the highest mountain is on Saba).
Before I start with such a makeover (if I ever find the time), I wanted to hear second thoughts:
I look forward to receiving your input. ˜˜˜˜
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 14:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Geography of the European Netherlands → Geography of the Netherlands – First of all it is a common name of the subject, Geography of the Netherlands, please check out any search, plain google, scholars, books etc. It is also creates a confusion, see the section European Netherlands OR the constituent country of the kingdom? directly above. For Denmark the article's titles is Geography of Denmark with a hatnote: This article is about Denmark proper. For the geography of the Danish Kingdom's autonomous territories, see Geography of the Faroe Islands and Geography of Greenland. For France the article's titles is Geography of France and not Geography of Metropolitan France or Geography of European France. Dgvby ( talk) 08:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)