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The question of when the "pink-for-girls, blue-for-boys" actually began, is unclear. There are some sources that claim that this only really became widespread after World War II, and that early in the century it was the other way round. Others refer to that same theory, and say that it is mostly urban legend.
References to pink for women or girls in the nineteenth century in Europe can be easily found—this is currently reflected in the first paragraph of the #Clothing section, with seven references. However, these are cherry-picked sources, and it may well be that they are unrepresentative because it's possible there are twice as many references for blue for women during that period. So this all needs to be sorted out, and reflected in the article. Paoletti's conclusion of a gradual change from 1860 to the 1950s seems the most well-researched. Mathglot ( talk) 01:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Marco Del Guidice has done some pretty authoritative-looking research as well, and calls out some of the somewhat sloppy acceptance of the "pink-blue reversal theory" by other academic sources that should have known better. It was never really "the other way round"; that's more or less of an urban legend, from what I can glean at this point. There was some inconsistency over a long period, but it was never predominantly "pink is for boys", followed by a reversal at some point; that didn't happen. At least, that's how I see it now. Mathglot ( talk) 06:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
CycoMa nice to see you at the article, but how about improving it, instead of engaging in drive-by tagging? It's a little silly to place a {{ One source}} template on a section that has two sentences. It's more intended for something like Armed Forces of the Dominican Republic, Coast Guard Aviation Association, or Guillaume-Mathieu Dumas. Also, when you tag something, you should really start a talk page section, unless it's blindingly obvious. Given that this article has only been in mainspace for one day, it seems premature. Anyway, how bout helping expand it, instead? Mathglot ( talk) 06:34, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
I've been looking at the history of the Pink triangle as used by Nazi Germany to identify gay and other LGBT prisoners in POW camps during World War II, and trying to decide if it has a place in this article. If so, part of that story is how it was reclaimed in the 1970s and 80s by ACT UP and for LGBT Pride. Mathglot ( talk) 19:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Some images that might be able to go into the article.
I'd think that this article should cover such things as razors colored pink and other pastel colors, [1] and for that matter tools. (see Carol Colatrella book in bibliography) And it's not just pink, but also purple and sparkles that seem to be associated with girls. -- Macrakis ( talk) 20:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm researching more information related to the color blue being associated with boys to add to this page under the reactions section. Breakfast4dinner ( talk) 16:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
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The question of when the "pink-for-girls, blue-for-boys" actually began, is unclear. There are some sources that claim that this only really became widespread after World War II, and that early in the century it was the other way round. Others refer to that same theory, and say that it is mostly urban legend.
References to pink for women or girls in the nineteenth century in Europe can be easily found—this is currently reflected in the first paragraph of the #Clothing section, with seven references. However, these are cherry-picked sources, and it may well be that they are unrepresentative because it's possible there are twice as many references for blue for women during that period. So this all needs to be sorted out, and reflected in the article. Paoletti's conclusion of a gradual change from 1860 to the 1950s seems the most well-researched. Mathglot ( talk) 01:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Marco Del Guidice has done some pretty authoritative-looking research as well, and calls out some of the somewhat sloppy acceptance of the "pink-blue reversal theory" by other academic sources that should have known better. It was never really "the other way round"; that's more or less of an urban legend, from what I can glean at this point. There was some inconsistency over a long period, but it was never predominantly "pink is for boys", followed by a reversal at some point; that didn't happen. At least, that's how I see it now. Mathglot ( talk) 06:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
CycoMa nice to see you at the article, but how about improving it, instead of engaging in drive-by tagging? It's a little silly to place a {{ One source}} template on a section that has two sentences. It's more intended for something like Armed Forces of the Dominican Republic, Coast Guard Aviation Association, or Guillaume-Mathieu Dumas. Also, when you tag something, you should really start a talk page section, unless it's blindingly obvious. Given that this article has only been in mainspace for one day, it seems premature. Anyway, how bout helping expand it, instead? Mathglot ( talk) 06:34, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
I've been looking at the history of the Pink triangle as used by Nazi Germany to identify gay and other LGBT prisoners in POW camps during World War II, and trying to decide if it has a place in this article. If so, part of that story is how it was reclaimed in the 1970s and 80s by ACT UP and for LGBT Pride. Mathglot ( talk) 19:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Some images that might be able to go into the article.
I'd think that this article should cover such things as razors colored pink and other pastel colors, [1] and for that matter tools. (see Carol Colatrella book in bibliography) And it's not just pink, but also purple and sparkles that seem to be associated with girls. -- Macrakis ( talk) 20:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm researching more information related to the color blue being associated with boys to add to this page under the reactions section. Breakfast4dinner ( talk) 16:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)