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The result of the debate was move. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 06:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Proposal : | Gemäldegalerie (Berlin) → Gemäldegalerie, Berlin |
Rationale : | Request move to make it consistent with location format. |
Proposer : | Gryffindor 19:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "~~~~".
Headline not added by original poster, but by me. -- Netizen 19:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey this site needs to have a picture of this museum because i am a college student trying to work on a essay and i need a pic of the museum!!! Thanks
"It was along the centuries enlarged not only through acquisitions but also by means of war booty and contains many objects looted from Poland. These were paintings obtained from the royal collections in 1656 (Polish Vasas collection),[2] in 1740 (Silesian collection of John III Sobieski) and in the beginning of the 19th century (Stanisław Augustus collection), as well as from many confiscations after the Partitions of Poland.[3]"
this is not true! its falsification of history! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.188.116.246 ( talk) 01:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
"It was along the centuries enlarged not only through acquisitions but also by means of war booty and contains many objects looted from Poland. These were paintings obtained from the royal collections in 1656 (Polish Vasas collection), in 1740 (Silesian collection of John III Sobieski) and in the beginning of the 19th century (Stanisław Augustus collection), as well as from many confiscations after the Partitions of Poland."
1. In 1740 Prussia conquered Silesia. Silesia was Austrian, not Polish. Did a "Silesian collection of John III Sobieski" actually exist, and was this collection located on foreign (Austrian) territory? Does the source actually claim all this?
2. in the 19th century, and after the partitions of Poland, objects couldn't get looted from Poland, because Poland didn't exist. This was as Prussian as some former German territories are now Polish. Otherwise Poland also looted objects from Germany when the inventory of many Silesian museums was moved to Warsaw after 1945. PS: and I'm sure the "confiscations" in the 19th century were the result of the secularization in the early 19th century. 93.220.186.155 ( talk) 14:11, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Johnbod ( talk) 19:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I think that the following sentence is an unfortunate euphemism: "The March of the Silenus by Peter Paul Rubens was obtained in Warsaw in 1656". "Obtained" simply means "looted". The painting was purchased in the Spanish Netherlands by Władysław Vasa of Poland in 1624. It was later (in 1656) looted by Frederick William, Elector of Brandenburg and displayed in Berlin's Gemäldegalerie till 1944 (transferred from the Berlin's City Palace in the 19th century). The March of the Silenus was depicted in the painting by Etienne de la Hire showing the Art Collection of prince Władysław Vasa (today in the Royal Castle in Warsaw): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Art_Collection_of_Prince_W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_Vasa.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.154.50 ( talk) 22:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
There's nothing in English post-summer 2012. My German isn't up to this or this. Do they contain updates? Is it still happening? When? Johnbod ( talk) 22:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was move. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 06:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Proposal : | Gemäldegalerie (Berlin) → Gemäldegalerie, Berlin |
Rationale : | Request move to make it consistent with location format. |
Proposer : | Gryffindor 19:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "~~~~".
Headline not added by original poster, but by me. -- Netizen 19:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey this site needs to have a picture of this museum because i am a college student trying to work on a essay and i need a pic of the museum!!! Thanks
"It was along the centuries enlarged not only through acquisitions but also by means of war booty and contains many objects looted from Poland. These were paintings obtained from the royal collections in 1656 (Polish Vasas collection),[2] in 1740 (Silesian collection of John III Sobieski) and in the beginning of the 19th century (Stanisław Augustus collection), as well as from many confiscations after the Partitions of Poland.[3]"
this is not true! its falsification of history! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.188.116.246 ( talk) 01:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
"It was along the centuries enlarged not only through acquisitions but also by means of war booty and contains many objects looted from Poland. These were paintings obtained from the royal collections in 1656 (Polish Vasas collection), in 1740 (Silesian collection of John III Sobieski) and in the beginning of the 19th century (Stanisław Augustus collection), as well as from many confiscations after the Partitions of Poland."
1. In 1740 Prussia conquered Silesia. Silesia was Austrian, not Polish. Did a "Silesian collection of John III Sobieski" actually exist, and was this collection located on foreign (Austrian) territory? Does the source actually claim all this?
2. in the 19th century, and after the partitions of Poland, objects couldn't get looted from Poland, because Poland didn't exist. This was as Prussian as some former German territories are now Polish. Otherwise Poland also looted objects from Germany when the inventory of many Silesian museums was moved to Warsaw after 1945. PS: and I'm sure the "confiscations" in the 19th century were the result of the secularization in the early 19th century. 93.220.186.155 ( talk) 14:11, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Johnbod ( talk) 19:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I think that the following sentence is an unfortunate euphemism: "The March of the Silenus by Peter Paul Rubens was obtained in Warsaw in 1656". "Obtained" simply means "looted". The painting was purchased in the Spanish Netherlands by Władysław Vasa of Poland in 1624. It was later (in 1656) looted by Frederick William, Elector of Brandenburg and displayed in Berlin's Gemäldegalerie till 1944 (transferred from the Berlin's City Palace in the 19th century). The March of the Silenus was depicted in the painting by Etienne de la Hire showing the Art Collection of prince Władysław Vasa (today in the Royal Castle in Warsaw): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Art_Collection_of_Prince_W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_Vasa.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.154.50 ( talk) 22:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
There's nothing in English post-summer 2012. My German isn't up to this or this. Do they contain updates? Is it still happening? When? Johnbod ( talk) 22:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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