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maybe a mention that he was supposed to be in the spice girls movie too, but was edited outs after he got arrested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.53.197.59 ( talk) 22:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I rather think we can dispense with the "suspected". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.45.253 ( talk) 01:09, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately due to his undeservedly peaceful death, no trial can take place and therefore no convicted obtained. Technically Jimmy "Jim'll Fuck it" Saville will always remain a 'suspected' prolific and cringeworthy paedophile.
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Paul Gadd became a Buddhist so the description of him as a Protestant who attended a Catholic school is inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.67.87 ( talk) 09:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the infobox should include the information that he is a sex offender in Vietnam and in the UK Something like the Template:australian criminals and select sex offender
Don't you think the first intro line to the article should also specify that he is a convicted paedophile? like this:
Paul Francis Gadd (born 8 May 1944) is an English
glam rock singer and songwriter, and is better known by his stage name Gary Glitter. He is also a convicted paedophile. --
78.86.58.151 (
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12:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)nickpr53
-Being a pedophile isn't a crime, child sexual abuse is. Look who's taking etymology. 98.217.245.137 ( talk) 22:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the reference to his conviction from the first line, as it is not relevant to his fame - people know him as a musician, not as a sex offender. Metsfanmax ( talk) 04:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
<outdent. This all seems a bit back-to-front to me. WP:LEAD makes it clear that we should explain up front why the subject of the article is notable. Were it not for the sexual abuse and CP charges, his sole notability would be his musical career from the 1970s. Without that, he would just be another sex offender and utterly non-notable. He is only notable, remembering the principle that fame and notability are not interchangeable here, to younger readers, because of the fuss made by the press- and that wouldn't have happened without his previous musical career. So, we are in danger of losing sight of the wood for the trees and concentrating solely on the elephant in the room. This is short-termism. OK, mention it in the lead, but we should not give it undue weight; I think we largely get it right in Chris Langham in that his conviction contributes to, but does not define, his notability, and we certainly don't label him as a paedophile. Less tabloid hysteria would be welcome here. Rodhull andemu 22:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe the lead should at least have a statement at the end along the lines of "Gary Glitter has also received publicity for a series of arrests and court cases involving accusations of child sexual abuse". also, i put in a parenthetical comment necessary to explain why the article mentions "after the arrest" before mentioning the details of the arrest. im sure someone can do better than what i did, but it fills an absolutely necessary gap in article timeline and structure. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 08:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Everybody stop argueing over whether or not he is a dirty, disgusting PEADOPHILE. A court has already ruled he is. The deviant should be treated as such and nothing else. He chose to live outside of ordinary decent society and took the path of a disgusting lowlife. The only arguement anyone should be having is if he should be shot or not! I know which side i am on. English n proud ( talk) 18:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a revert war going on between IPs and non-IPs and exemplified with this diff. What is going on? -- Stlemur ( talk) 11:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSHAN21294020080814?feedType=RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews Parrot of Doom ( talk) 11:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
"Glitter had said he hoped to move to Singapore or Hong Kong after his release"
Yikes! 72.209.246.97 ( talk) 19:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about the ages of the two girls he was convicted of molesting. Two different BBC pages have them as '10 and 11' and '11 and 12'. [2] [3] Earthlyreason ( talk) 06:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Un project this page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.250.228 ( talk • contribs)
I bring this up because I remember reading an article in the 1970s about his early career, and remember Terry Tinsel, but NOT Vicky Vomit (sounds very unlikely to me, far too harsh for the pre-punk era), and also remember Harry Hydrogen being listed as a rejected name. The source of info for the names is a BBC article, but can anyone provide a better source or some real info here? Drwhapcaplet ( talk) 16:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I would agree - he wouldn't have considered the name "Vicky Vomit" in the early 1970s. For one thing, Glitter's stage persona (whether he actually achieved it or not) was supposed to be that of the super-sexy glamorous male pop star for all the girls to scream over....hardly likely to achieve that calling himself "Vicky" was he? Also, as the above poster says, the idea of using "Vomit" and other similarly "unpleasant" words as names didn't come about until the late 1970s, when comedians often used it ( Kenny Everett's "Gizzard Puke" etc). I don't think any real punk bands or singers ever actually did use it, with the exception of " Rat Scabies" from the Damned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.198.33.252 ( talk) 11:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
The BBC interview has undue weight and recentism, it takes up too much space on his biography for a relatively minor thing that lasted 1 hour max. — Realist 2 04:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Glitter has recently been spotted shopping in a
sainsbury's in a place called
warsash in
hampshire, where he is hiding out with a friend and living. surely this should be worth a mention??? here's the link-
http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/hampshirenews/display.var.2433729.0.shamed_gary_glitter_in_hampshire_village.php
Simonyoung69 (
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Ok calm down, I was merely trying to improve the page, there's no need to get all touchy about it...and don't patronise me either! Simonyoung69 ( talk) 13:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
This revert is incorrect as he is a paedophile! Bwfc ( talk) 14:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
But when I looked up Gang Leader I found this guy I don't know a damn thing about. I am wondering, could someone put up a headnote? Thank you very much. TheBlazikenMaster ( talk) 11:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Is this worth including? BBC News Article or is it all getting too dull for words? DavidFarmbrough ( talk) 04:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I think we should create a discography page for Gary Glitter, so the bottom on the page isn't cluttered up with that list. I'm also in favor or whipping that TV appearances section. Notable events should be sourced in the pro's. — Realist 2 16:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Also in 1991 Gary Glitter went on tour with the musical A Slice of Saturday Night for 6 months. He played the part of ageing rocker Eric "Rubber-legs" De Vere. MrPW ( talk) 21:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC) Philip Woolford
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OK, this seems like some sort of very tasteless joke on the part of the channel, but Channel 4 have commissioned, filmed, and are about to broadcast a drama imagining a UK with Capital Crimes Against Children legislation and the subsequent trial and execution of Gary Glitter - [5]. Is this worth a mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.224.99 ( talk) 22:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
No mention of his touring Britain with 'Gerry Cottle's Glitter Circus' (and I mean a real circus - clowns, acrobats, tent, living in caravans, moving from town to town - the lot). This must have been at the very lowest point in his music career, and my recollection is that it was for several years, in the late 1980s early 1990s. 79.65.120.58 ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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Please remove the Creative artists who have served time in prison link from the ==See also== section (it is now a redirect to Prison). 92.1.93.82 ( talk) 10:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Done Thanks.
Celestra (
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14:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I can't remember when I last heard one of his songs on the radio. Can anyone confirm if there is an official or unofficial ban? If yes, that info would add to the completeness of the article. EdX20 ( talk) 21:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
In the section "Nowhere to go", "yaght" should be changed to "yacht.
Can somebody please get a more recent picture of Glitter to display at the top of the page? This one is very old, and the picture should represent how he looks as close to how he does now as possible.
Just thought i would mention that Gary Glitter had a couple of Independent hits in the 80s Singles chart http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indiehits/g.htm WHATCHA MOMMA DON'T SEE (Eagle ERS 004) position 23 7wks 13/12/80 ROCK'N'ROLL / OH NO, NOT JUST A PRETTY FACE (Illuminated ILL 60) position 31 5wks 4/5/85
I think is worth adding in his discography that is far from complete. —Preceding
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92.8.248.244 (
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...Birth - somewhere down the line. Kind of punishment? Or is it only me for whom the article looks like its been beheaded? -- Evermore2 ( talk) 13:07, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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"During his comeback period of the 1980s, he did less tours"
...incorrect grammar. Should read "fewer" not "less".
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I would like somebody to change the Years active, it currently reads: Years active 1960–2010, This is incorrect and besides of which where is the source to back "2010"–up, Glitter is no longer performing and has not done so since 1999/2000, so 2010 would suggest to me that he has been releasing records, which he hasn't been, his "Years active" should remain as 1960–2000, until we can find a source to suggest otherwise.
-- 80.65.242.116 ( talk) 09:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Would it not be appropriate to remove any News of the World citations from this article? This so-called "newspaper" is now deceased, and is totally discredited in the eyes of the British public thanks to this. Also, all articles have been removed from the website, and the links now point to a "thank you and goodbye" page. 87.112.96.230 ( talk) 18:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The article mentions Walk on by as a Paul Raven single in 1961. However the correct title was Walk on boy (I have it on my IPod). I do not know how to make the correction in the article myself. Gerard Peet, Hilversum, Holland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.203.231 ( talk) 13:01, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
It's clear that Gary Glitter as a performer has more or less disappeared from the public eye and been replaced by Gary Glitter the sex offender. You don't hear his music much these days. But do we have any sources that would enable something to go in the article about the extent to which he is still selling records. Do the major shops still stock them? Is his fan club or whatever still active? Credulity ( talk) 15:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
121.74.47.194 ( talk) 05:31, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
"On 28 October, police announced that Glitter had been taken from his central London home that morning into custody for questioning about the allegations;[55] he was released on bail in the afternoon."
The citation merely states "BBC News (TV)" which isn't really good enough. Furthermore that's not actually correct the police never confirmed it was Glitter as stated in this BBC article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.234.9 ( talk) 18:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
The source article for the recent allegation against Glitter details an account by someone claiming to have seen another girl being assaulted. This woman says she did not have a clear view of that encounter. I don't feel that this constitutes a "direct accusation" against Glitter. Bearing in mind the sensitivity of biographical material, I have removed the word "direct" and restructured the sentence (now two sentences). Alfrew ( talk) 20:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
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In legal history/child pornography arrest and conviction section, could someone fix the atrocious sentence "In November 1997, Glitter was arrested after pornographic images of children were discovered on the hard drive of a Toshiba laptop that he had taken to the Cribbs Causeway near Bristol branch of PC World for repair."?
Because, it reads badly, needs commas to separate, near Bristol, or surely just "that he had taken to a branch of PC World for repair", who gives a monkey's which branch of PC World it was, surely this is not relevant, encyclopaedic etc.?
cheers! 78.112.254.109 ( talk) 22:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
In various places in this article, he is referred to as "Glitter", "Gadd", and "Raven". Should we not show some consistency, to minimise confusion, or at least clarify here which name should be used in which circumstances? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 08:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
MOS:SURNAME says: "After the initial mention of any name, the person should generally be referred to by surname only..." Given that he is most widely known as Gary Glitter, that implies that, if we agree that "generally" applies to this article, he should be referred to in the main text as Glitter. But I think that is silly in this specific case. Before the early 1970s, he was known either as Paul Gadd or Paul Raven. Since criminal investigations started, he has been known to the wider public as Gary Glitter, but in legal terms he has been known as Paul Gadd. The word "he" can be used where there is no risk of confusion with anyone else. In my view, we should avoid terminology like "Glitter was convicted..." - Paul Gadd was convicted. There is no simple solution, but we should not be too afraid of referring to him by the most appropriate name in each case, so long as there is no risk of confusing readers. Thoughts? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Re this deletion: [7] I agree it's now "comparatively trivial". But it still happened, and I'm not sure it should be deleted wholesale. Martinevans123 ( talk) 20:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
The year 2000, mentioned as the conclusion of Glitter's career, seems to have been drawn from thin air. His last single, a cover of "House of the Rising Sun", was issued in 1996. Per his AllMusic bio, upon his 1997 arrest, "Stores throughout the U.K. withdrew his records from the shelves, concerts were canceled; overnight, one of Britain's most adored icons became public enemy number one". All of his subsequent output consists of compilations, as well as live performances and unreleased tracks recorded prior to his first arrest. I can't find a formal retirement statement from Glitter anywhere on the web, so to me 1997 seems a sensible year to point to as the end of his active career. Karyn Devlin ( talk) 16:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I hate to be the dissenting voice here, but as was recently remarked on Talk:Rolf Harris, Glitter didn't deliberately stop being a musician just by being arrested, even though his output became totally unmarketable following his arrest. The article states he was uncovered living illegally in Vietnam after he was spotted singing in bars - which implies he was still trying to be a musician. Still, 1997 does seem a "sensible" cut off date where popular opinion and sources switch from Gary Glitter the glam rocker to Gary Glitter the sex offender - in fact there's almost a bright line where it switches. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I used to know this crude bit of rhyming slang at school, "I bet he takes it up the Gary Glitter", which seems far more sinister these days. Anyway, his musical career is still largely unsourced. I'm sure I've got a biography somewhere in the loft that will give a brief overview of his career (the main topic in pre 1997 books is remarking how long it took to get going) that can fix that. I've never been a particularly big fan of his music anyway, but it can't just be written off as irrelevant. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:18, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Buddy Holly appeared at the London Palladium in 1958, so we can safely say that when Glitter performed there in 1973 then he was was not the first Rock 'n' Roller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.181.223 ( talk) 20:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
The opening para of the 1997 conviction section presently opens "In November 1997, Glitter was arrested after pornographic images of children were discovered on the hard drive of a laptop that he had taken to a computer retailer for repair". Anyone who reads any of the press reports or the court records will know instantly that this was when he took his non-working laptop for a clean-up at PC World at Cribbs Causeway, Bristol. Someone seems to editing out this simple and well document fact - even though it appears on the current version of the PC_World_(retailer)#Controversies article. Why is someone editing this out? The disgrace of being associated with Glitter? How about the good news story of finding and reporting illegal images? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.103.112 ( talk) 23:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
The Comeback and business interests section incorrectly names a KLF track as "Doctoring the TARDIS", the title is Doctorin' the TARDIS (see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Doctorin%27_The_Tardis.jpg) unable to amend due to article being locked. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.79.34 ( talk) 15:57, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
According to the General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes, accessed via Ancestry.com (and publicly available), Paul Francis Gadd was born in 1944. Sources that give a different year of birth appear to be in error. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:55, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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If Gary Glitter's 'Years Active' was between 1960 and 1997, then did he release an album in 2001 and a single in 2004? Scf1985 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:30, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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maybe a mention that he was supposed to be in the spice girls movie too, but was edited outs after he got arrested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.53.197.59 ( talk) 22:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I rather think we can dispense with the "suspected". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.45.253 ( talk) 01:09, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately due to his undeservedly peaceful death, no trial can take place and therefore no convicted obtained. Technically Jimmy "Jim'll Fuck it" Saville will always remain a 'suspected' prolific and cringeworthy paedophile.
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Paul Gadd became a Buddhist so the description of him as a Protestant who attended a Catholic school is inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.67.87 ( talk) 09:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the infobox should include the information that he is a sex offender in Vietnam and in the UK Something like the Template:australian criminals and select sex offender
Don't you think the first intro line to the article should also specify that he is a convicted paedophile? like this:
Paul Francis Gadd (born 8 May 1944) is an English
glam rock singer and songwriter, and is better known by his stage name Gary Glitter. He is also a convicted paedophile. --
78.86.58.151 (
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12:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)nickpr53
-Being a pedophile isn't a crime, child sexual abuse is. Look who's taking etymology. 98.217.245.137 ( talk) 22:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the reference to his conviction from the first line, as it is not relevant to his fame - people know him as a musician, not as a sex offender. Metsfanmax ( talk) 04:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
<outdent. This all seems a bit back-to-front to me. WP:LEAD makes it clear that we should explain up front why the subject of the article is notable. Were it not for the sexual abuse and CP charges, his sole notability would be his musical career from the 1970s. Without that, he would just be another sex offender and utterly non-notable. He is only notable, remembering the principle that fame and notability are not interchangeable here, to younger readers, because of the fuss made by the press- and that wouldn't have happened without his previous musical career. So, we are in danger of losing sight of the wood for the trees and concentrating solely on the elephant in the room. This is short-termism. OK, mention it in the lead, but we should not give it undue weight; I think we largely get it right in Chris Langham in that his conviction contributes to, but does not define, his notability, and we certainly don't label him as a paedophile. Less tabloid hysteria would be welcome here. Rodhull andemu 22:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe the lead should at least have a statement at the end along the lines of "Gary Glitter has also received publicity for a series of arrests and court cases involving accusations of child sexual abuse". also, i put in a parenthetical comment necessary to explain why the article mentions "after the arrest" before mentioning the details of the arrest. im sure someone can do better than what i did, but it fills an absolutely necessary gap in article timeline and structure. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 08:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Everybody stop argueing over whether or not he is a dirty, disgusting PEADOPHILE. A court has already ruled he is. The deviant should be treated as such and nothing else. He chose to live outside of ordinary decent society and took the path of a disgusting lowlife. The only arguement anyone should be having is if he should be shot or not! I know which side i am on. English n proud ( talk) 18:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a revert war going on between IPs and non-IPs and exemplified with this diff. What is going on? -- Stlemur ( talk) 11:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSHAN21294020080814?feedType=RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews Parrot of Doom ( talk) 11:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
"Glitter had said he hoped to move to Singapore or Hong Kong after his release"
Yikes! 72.209.246.97 ( talk) 19:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about the ages of the two girls he was convicted of molesting. Two different BBC pages have them as '10 and 11' and '11 and 12'. [2] [3] Earthlyreason ( talk) 06:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Un project this page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.250.228 ( talk • contribs)
I bring this up because I remember reading an article in the 1970s about his early career, and remember Terry Tinsel, but NOT Vicky Vomit (sounds very unlikely to me, far too harsh for the pre-punk era), and also remember Harry Hydrogen being listed as a rejected name. The source of info for the names is a BBC article, but can anyone provide a better source or some real info here? Drwhapcaplet ( talk) 16:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I would agree - he wouldn't have considered the name "Vicky Vomit" in the early 1970s. For one thing, Glitter's stage persona (whether he actually achieved it or not) was supposed to be that of the super-sexy glamorous male pop star for all the girls to scream over....hardly likely to achieve that calling himself "Vicky" was he? Also, as the above poster says, the idea of using "Vomit" and other similarly "unpleasant" words as names didn't come about until the late 1970s, when comedians often used it ( Kenny Everett's "Gizzard Puke" etc). I don't think any real punk bands or singers ever actually did use it, with the exception of " Rat Scabies" from the Damned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.198.33.252 ( talk) 11:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
The BBC interview has undue weight and recentism, it takes up too much space on his biography for a relatively minor thing that lasted 1 hour max. — Realist 2 04:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Glitter has recently been spotted shopping in a
sainsbury's in a place called
warsash in
hampshire, where he is hiding out with a friend and living. surely this should be worth a mention??? here's the link-
http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/hampshirenews/display.var.2433729.0.shamed_gary_glitter_in_hampshire_village.php
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Ok calm down, I was merely trying to improve the page, there's no need to get all touchy about it...and don't patronise me either! Simonyoung69 ( talk) 13:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
This revert is incorrect as he is a paedophile! Bwfc ( talk) 14:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
But when I looked up Gang Leader I found this guy I don't know a damn thing about. I am wondering, could someone put up a headnote? Thank you very much. TheBlazikenMaster ( talk) 11:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Is this worth including? BBC News Article or is it all getting too dull for words? DavidFarmbrough ( talk) 04:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I think we should create a discography page for Gary Glitter, so the bottom on the page isn't cluttered up with that list. I'm also in favor or whipping that TV appearances section. Notable events should be sourced in the pro's. — Realist 2 16:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Also in 1991 Gary Glitter went on tour with the musical A Slice of Saturday Night for 6 months. He played the part of ageing rocker Eric "Rubber-legs" De Vere. MrPW ( talk) 21:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC) Philip Woolford
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OK, this seems like some sort of very tasteless joke on the part of the channel, but Channel 4 have commissioned, filmed, and are about to broadcast a drama imagining a UK with Capital Crimes Against Children legislation and the subsequent trial and execution of Gary Glitter - [5]. Is this worth a mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.224.99 ( talk) 22:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
No mention of his touring Britain with 'Gerry Cottle's Glitter Circus' (and I mean a real circus - clowns, acrobats, tent, living in caravans, moving from town to town - the lot). This must have been at the very lowest point in his music career, and my recollection is that it was for several years, in the late 1980s early 1990s. 79.65.120.58 ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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Please remove the Creative artists who have served time in prison link from the ==See also== section (it is now a redirect to Prison). 92.1.93.82 ( talk) 10:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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I can't remember when I last heard one of his songs on the radio. Can anyone confirm if there is an official or unofficial ban? If yes, that info would add to the completeness of the article. EdX20 ( talk) 21:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
In the section "Nowhere to go", "yaght" should be changed to "yacht.
Can somebody please get a more recent picture of Glitter to display at the top of the page? This one is very old, and the picture should represent how he looks as close to how he does now as possible.
Just thought i would mention that Gary Glitter had a couple of Independent hits in the 80s Singles chart http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indiehits/g.htm WHATCHA MOMMA DON'T SEE (Eagle ERS 004) position 23 7wks 13/12/80 ROCK'N'ROLL / OH NO, NOT JUST A PRETTY FACE (Illuminated ILL 60) position 31 5wks 4/5/85
I think is worth adding in his discography that is far from complete. —Preceding
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...Birth - somewhere down the line. Kind of punishment? Or is it only me for whom the article looks like its been beheaded? -- Evermore2 ( talk) 13:07, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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"During his comeback period of the 1980s, he did less tours"
...incorrect grammar. Should read "fewer" not "less".
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I would like somebody to change the Years active, it currently reads: Years active 1960–2010, This is incorrect and besides of which where is the source to back "2010"–up, Glitter is no longer performing and has not done so since 1999/2000, so 2010 would suggest to me that he has been releasing records, which he hasn't been, his "Years active" should remain as 1960–2000, until we can find a source to suggest otherwise.
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Would it not be appropriate to remove any News of the World citations from this article? This so-called "newspaper" is now deceased, and is totally discredited in the eyes of the British public thanks to this. Also, all articles have been removed from the website, and the links now point to a "thank you and goodbye" page. 87.112.96.230 ( talk) 18:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The article mentions Walk on by as a Paul Raven single in 1961. However the correct title was Walk on boy (I have it on my IPod). I do not know how to make the correction in the article myself. Gerard Peet, Hilversum, Holland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.203.231 ( talk) 13:01, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
It's clear that Gary Glitter as a performer has more or less disappeared from the public eye and been replaced by Gary Glitter the sex offender. You don't hear his music much these days. But do we have any sources that would enable something to go in the article about the extent to which he is still selling records. Do the major shops still stock them? Is his fan club or whatever still active? Credulity ( talk) 15:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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"On 28 October, police announced that Glitter had been taken from his central London home that morning into custody for questioning about the allegations;[55] he was released on bail in the afternoon."
The citation merely states "BBC News (TV)" which isn't really good enough. Furthermore that's not actually correct the police never confirmed it was Glitter as stated in this BBC article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.234.9 ( talk) 18:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
The source article for the recent allegation against Glitter details an account by someone claiming to have seen another girl being assaulted. This woman says she did not have a clear view of that encounter. I don't feel that this constitutes a "direct accusation" against Glitter. Bearing in mind the sensitivity of biographical material, I have removed the word "direct" and restructured the sentence (now two sentences). Alfrew ( talk) 20:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
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In legal history/child pornography arrest and conviction section, could someone fix the atrocious sentence "In November 1997, Glitter was arrested after pornographic images of children were discovered on the hard drive of a Toshiba laptop that he had taken to the Cribbs Causeway near Bristol branch of PC World for repair."?
Because, it reads badly, needs commas to separate, near Bristol, or surely just "that he had taken to a branch of PC World for repair", who gives a monkey's which branch of PC World it was, surely this is not relevant, encyclopaedic etc.?
cheers! 78.112.254.109 ( talk) 22:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
In various places in this article, he is referred to as "Glitter", "Gadd", and "Raven". Should we not show some consistency, to minimise confusion, or at least clarify here which name should be used in which circumstances? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 08:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
MOS:SURNAME says: "After the initial mention of any name, the person should generally be referred to by surname only..." Given that he is most widely known as Gary Glitter, that implies that, if we agree that "generally" applies to this article, he should be referred to in the main text as Glitter. But I think that is silly in this specific case. Before the early 1970s, he was known either as Paul Gadd or Paul Raven. Since criminal investigations started, he has been known to the wider public as Gary Glitter, but in legal terms he has been known as Paul Gadd. The word "he" can be used where there is no risk of confusion with anyone else. In my view, we should avoid terminology like "Glitter was convicted..." - Paul Gadd was convicted. There is no simple solution, but we should not be too afraid of referring to him by the most appropriate name in each case, so long as there is no risk of confusing readers. Thoughts? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Re this deletion: [7] I agree it's now "comparatively trivial". But it still happened, and I'm not sure it should be deleted wholesale. Martinevans123 ( talk) 20:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
The year 2000, mentioned as the conclusion of Glitter's career, seems to have been drawn from thin air. His last single, a cover of "House of the Rising Sun", was issued in 1996. Per his AllMusic bio, upon his 1997 arrest, "Stores throughout the U.K. withdrew his records from the shelves, concerts were canceled; overnight, one of Britain's most adored icons became public enemy number one". All of his subsequent output consists of compilations, as well as live performances and unreleased tracks recorded prior to his first arrest. I can't find a formal retirement statement from Glitter anywhere on the web, so to me 1997 seems a sensible year to point to as the end of his active career. Karyn Devlin ( talk) 16:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I hate to be the dissenting voice here, but as was recently remarked on Talk:Rolf Harris, Glitter didn't deliberately stop being a musician just by being arrested, even though his output became totally unmarketable following his arrest. The article states he was uncovered living illegally in Vietnam after he was spotted singing in bars - which implies he was still trying to be a musician. Still, 1997 does seem a "sensible" cut off date where popular opinion and sources switch from Gary Glitter the glam rocker to Gary Glitter the sex offender - in fact there's almost a bright line where it switches. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I used to know this crude bit of rhyming slang at school, "I bet he takes it up the Gary Glitter", which seems far more sinister these days. Anyway, his musical career is still largely unsourced. I'm sure I've got a biography somewhere in the loft that will give a brief overview of his career (the main topic in pre 1997 books is remarking how long it took to get going) that can fix that. I've never been a particularly big fan of his music anyway, but it can't just be written off as irrelevant. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:18, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Buddy Holly appeared at the London Palladium in 1958, so we can safely say that when Glitter performed there in 1973 then he was was not the first Rock 'n' Roller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.181.223 ( talk) 20:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
The opening para of the 1997 conviction section presently opens "In November 1997, Glitter was arrested after pornographic images of children were discovered on the hard drive of a laptop that he had taken to a computer retailer for repair". Anyone who reads any of the press reports or the court records will know instantly that this was when he took his non-working laptop for a clean-up at PC World at Cribbs Causeway, Bristol. Someone seems to editing out this simple and well document fact - even though it appears on the current version of the PC_World_(retailer)#Controversies article. Why is someone editing this out? The disgrace of being associated with Glitter? How about the good news story of finding and reporting illegal images? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.103.112 ( talk) 23:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
The Comeback and business interests section incorrectly names a KLF track as "Doctoring the TARDIS", the title is Doctorin' the TARDIS (see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Doctorin%27_The_Tardis.jpg) unable to amend due to article being locked. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.79.34 ( talk) 15:57, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
According to the General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes, accessed via Ancestry.com (and publicly available), Paul Francis Gadd was born in 1944. Sources that give a different year of birth appear to be in error. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:55, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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If Gary Glitter's 'Years Active' was between 1960 and 1997, then did he release an album in 2001 and a single in 2004? Scf1985 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:30, 8 August 2017 (UTC)