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This is a 15 year old article and it is not obvious that it should be moved to an abbeviated form of the current title. - [[User:|MrOllie]] (
talk)
13:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't see what article longevity has anything to do with this. No one in PC gaming circles uses the term "gaming computer". A simple Google search should prove that. --
CoolingGibbon (
talk)
13:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose "PC" may be a well known initialism in tech circles but it can readily be confused with other terms. As such, it would be inappropriate to move it. "Gaming computer" is sufficient. (And this would also apply to "PC Game" which should really be at "personal computer game". --
Masem (
t)
04:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"PC" is a well-known acronym within the gaming sphere. While I definitely do not oppose PC itself being a disambiguation, in context there's no need to clarify. ZXCVBNM (
TALK)06:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
That's the point. "PC" is well known/established in gaming and computing and likely other related tech areas, but its not a general term and given that there's other terms of broader meaning ("political correctness" for example), we should avoid using the initialism for the general encyclopedia. Hence the application to move "PC game" to "computer game" or "personal computer game". --
Masem (
t)
15:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. We are a general encyclopedia. The article name should reflect what the general public call these devices, not necessarily what the gaming fraternity call them. PC is seriously ambiguous.
Andrewa (
talk)
08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Weak support: If that's what these things are mostly called, then that's what we should call them. I also haven't noticed anyone pointing out any specific ambiguity in "Gaming PC", while a "gaming computer" could be a computer used in the gambling industry. The suggested alternative interpretation, "
gaming political correctness", just doesn't make sense and is a red link. —
BarrelProof (
talk)
15:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don't think moving an article to a name which a small percentage of the population is advantageous to everyone else who use the alternative.
Sean Stephens (
talk)
00:37, 4 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The question to ask is not whether "gaming computer" could be confused with these, but if legitimately any of those are actually called, with some frequency, "gaming computers". I can't speak to the gambling side, but I've never seen anywhere close to sourcing to suggest that arcade cabinets or cloud gaming servers are called "gaming computers" with any type of frequency to make this a potential disambiguation issue. --
Masem (
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14:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Split: I also think, the "gaming computer" and "gaming personal computer" is slightly different classes. Some early computer games was maintained on a PDP-8 minicomputers (that's not a personal machines) or (rarely) on a IBM midrange computers; the arcade machines also a good example of a another gaming platform.
ThisIsNotABetter (
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13:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)reply
As I mention to Feminist's reply, unless it is clear that mainframe computers that run games are called "gaming computers" in RSes, this is not a real concern. I do think the early history stuff in this article may be unnecessary as the key is to distinguish gaming computers from general performance computers, and that really doesn't require anything about the mainframe period of games. --
Masem (
t)
14:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don’t know of any evidence of the term “Gaming PC” being more popular, “Gaming Computer” is actually the one that seems more common.
DogsRNice (
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16:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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This is a 15 year old article and it is not obvious that it should be moved to an abbeviated form of the current title. - [[User:|MrOllie]] (
talk)
13:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't see what article longevity has anything to do with this. No one in PC gaming circles uses the term "gaming computer". A simple Google search should prove that. --
CoolingGibbon (
talk)
13:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose "PC" may be a well known initialism in tech circles but it can readily be confused with other terms. As such, it would be inappropriate to move it. "Gaming computer" is sufficient. (And this would also apply to "PC Game" which should really be at "personal computer game". --
Masem (
t)
04:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"PC" is a well-known acronym within the gaming sphere. While I definitely do not oppose PC itself being a disambiguation, in context there's no need to clarify. ZXCVBNM (
TALK)06:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
That's the point. "PC" is well known/established in gaming and computing and likely other related tech areas, but its not a general term and given that there's other terms of broader meaning ("political correctness" for example), we should avoid using the initialism for the general encyclopedia. Hence the application to move "PC game" to "computer game" or "personal computer game". --
Masem (
t)
15:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. We are a general encyclopedia. The article name should reflect what the general public call these devices, not necessarily what the gaming fraternity call them. PC is seriously ambiguous.
Andrewa (
talk)
08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Weak support: If that's what these things are mostly called, then that's what we should call them. I also haven't noticed anyone pointing out any specific ambiguity in "Gaming PC", while a "gaming computer" could be a computer used in the gambling industry. The suggested alternative interpretation, "
gaming political correctness", just doesn't make sense and is a red link. —
BarrelProof (
talk)
15:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don't think moving an article to a name which a small percentage of the population is advantageous to everyone else who use the alternative.
Sean Stephens (
talk)
00:37, 4 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The question to ask is not whether "gaming computer" could be confused with these, but if legitimately any of those are actually called, with some frequency, "gaming computers". I can't speak to the gambling side, but I've never seen anywhere close to sourcing to suggest that arcade cabinets or cloud gaming servers are called "gaming computers" with any type of frequency to make this a potential disambiguation issue. --
Masem (
t)
14:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Split: I also think, the "gaming computer" and "gaming personal computer" is slightly different classes. Some early computer games was maintained on a PDP-8 minicomputers (that's not a personal machines) or (rarely) on a IBM midrange computers; the arcade machines also a good example of a another gaming platform.
ThisIsNotABetter (
talk)
13:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)reply
As I mention to Feminist's reply, unless it is clear that mainframe computers that run games are called "gaming computers" in RSes, this is not a real concern. I do think the early history stuff in this article may be unnecessary as the key is to distinguish gaming computers from general performance computers, and that really doesn't require anything about the mainframe period of games. --
Masem (
t)
14:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don’t know of any evidence of the term “Gaming PC” being more popular, “Gaming Computer” is actually the one that seems more common.
DogsRNice (
talk)
16:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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