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Hello again! I am back with an additional edit request, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail, in an attempt to update the Wikipedia article.
Currently, the "History" section does not have any information post-2012, and ends with the following: "Later that year, WWE began filming episodes of its internet television show WWE NXT at Full Sail University." There is actually a much stronger partnership between Full Sail and WWE, spanning years and involving multiple series tapings and a student scholarship program. I propose adding an update on the ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE:
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In June 2015, Full Sail began hosting the ''[[WWE Tough Enough]]'' series.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Boedeker|first1=Hal|title='WWE Tough Enough' calls Full Sail home|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/tv-guy/os-wwe-tough-enough-calls-full-sail-home-20150619-post.html|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=June 19, 2015}}</ref> As part of an ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE, students receive opportunities to produce ''WWE NXT'' tapings, and merchandise and tickets sales contribute to a scholarship fund for students enrolled at the university.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Sullivan|first1=Erin|title=Full Sail partners with WWE|url=http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2012/05/14/full-sail-partners-with-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Weekly|date=May 14, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Full Sail student gets $10K from WWE|url=http://www.orangeobserver.com/photo-gallery/full-sail-student-gets-10k-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orange Observer|date=October 3, 2012}}</ref> As of January 2018, the partnership between WWE and Full Sail had resulted in $385,000 in scholarships.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Reddick|first1=Jay|title=WWE surprises Full Sail student with $25,000 scholarship|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/wrestling/os-wwe-full-sail-scholarship-20180117-story.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=January 17, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Varsallone|first1=Jim|title=How WWE surprised scholarship winner in honor of Raw 25|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article195895024.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Miami Herald|date=January 21, 2018}}</ref> |
Thanks in advance. Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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As disclosed above, I am currently working with Full Sail University to make improvements to this Wikipedia article. In particular, I was aiming to resolve the three warning tags at the top of the article with my edit requests. (Focusing on adding sourcing, removing unsourced content, and trimming out inappropriately sourced details.) As the requests have been quite large and I see how it can be difficult to work through them, I'd be happy to take a more targeted approach, if you will. To that end, can editors help specify which content they feel is currently problematic and then I can offer specific requests to address concerns?
A significant amount of unsourced content has been removed, based on previous edit requests, so I do wonder if some tags may no longer apply. Either way, knowing what should be addressed would be helpful for proposing additional improvements to the page that are easier for editors to review and implement. Thank you for any feedback. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
@ Justlettersandnumbers: Since you've participated in a couple discussions below, I'm curious if you're willing to share why you feel the "neutrality" tag at the top of the article is necessary. I'd like to try addressing specific concerns, if possible. Inkian Jason ( talk) 21:40, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Done. Inkian Jason, after two weeks with no further response, remarks, concerns and entire page history as well as archived peer review, I have removed the remaining tag for neutrality. The other two tags were already removed because of perceived and tangible improvement to article and this editor sees no reason to unilaterally hold up further sections and requests. Sincerely and all the best for continued progress. Fylbecatulous talk 03:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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I am back with an additional edit request to update this Wikipedia article, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail. As mentioned above, the current article has little information about the university since 2012. I propose adding mention of the school's Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting, which was established in 2017. I'm not sure if this addition would be more appropriate for the "Academics" section or the "History" section, but I suggest the following update:
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Thanks again for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 01:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again! I am back to propose an additional improvement to this article on behalf of Full Sail. Per User:Justlettersandnumbers' suggestion above to focus on significant omissions, I have drafted an expanded list of notable people for the article's "Notable people" section. Currently, the section mentions only Dave Arneson, Stedman Graham, and Machinedrum. I've expanded this section to include a (completely sourced) list of other notable instructors and alumni associated with Full Sail.
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Instructors at Full Sail have included Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Dave Arneson, who taught game design, [1] and Stedman Graham. [2] [3] The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009. [4] Notable alumni include:
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Instructors at Full Sail have included [[Dungeons & Dragons]] co-creator [[Dave Arneson]], who taught game design,<ref>{{cite news|title=Obituary: David Arneson|url=https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/apr/24/obituary-david-arneson-dungeons-dragons-creator|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=[[The Guardian]]|date=April 23, 2009}}</ref> and [[Stedman Graham]].<ref>{{cite news|title='He didn't love me at first sight'|url=http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/lifestyle/-He-didn-t-love-me-at-first-sight-_13363578|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=[[The Jamaica Observer]]|date=January 14, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Boedeker|first1=Hal|title=An Oprah moment: Maximize your life, Graham tells class|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-08-25/news/stedman_1_stedman-graham-winfrey-full-sail|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=August 25, 2009}}</ref> The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009.<ref>{{Cite journal|url=https://www.mixonline.com/technology/full-sail-university-unveil-hall-fame-383471|title=Full Sail University to Unveil Hall of Fame|date=February 17, 2009|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=Mix Online}}</ref> Notable alumni include: {{Div col}} |
Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions. Inkian Jason ( talk) 14:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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Instructors at Full Sail have included Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Dave Arneson, who taught game design, [1] and Stedman Graham. [2] [3] The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009. [4] Notable alumni include:
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I have another suggestion for this Wikipedia article, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail. Currently, the "History" section has the following 2 paragraphs:
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I propose merging these 2 paragraphs to improve flow. Additionally, I propose adding mention of a partnership with a major university and a snapshot of Full Sail's degree offerings and student population from the same time period:
The claims can be verified by this source, which is already used in the existing article (defined as "UF and Full Sail").
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As the university grew between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened, [1] adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media, [2] and a master of science degree in game design. [3] On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame. [4] In late 2011, the University of Florida and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students. [5] Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time. [5] References
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As the university grew between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened,<ref name="OBJ 10 new programs">{{cite news|last=Carstensen|first=Melinda|title=Full Sail to launch 10 new degree programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2010/08/30/focus2.html?page=all|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 August 2010}}</ref> adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media,<ref name="wide world of sports">{{cite news|title=Full Sail, Wide World of Sports ink deal|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2011/03/30/full-sail-espn-wide-world-of-sports.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 March 2011}}</ref> and a master of science degree in game design.<ref name="OBJ Game Design">{{cite news|title=Full Sail University to offer new master's degree in game design|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2008/09/08/daily26.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=10 September 2008}}</ref> On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame.<ref name="Fame">{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Full Sail University to Unveil Hall of Fame |url=http://mixonline.com/news/headline/fullsail_university_hof_1702}}</ref> In late 2011, the [[University of Florida]] and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> |
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Wikipedia does not tolerate promotion of any kind, including this kind; nor does it care to any appreciable extent what any institution chooses to say about itself. Our content is built on what is reported in independent reliable sources, which do not include company press-releases reprinted in the local newspaper. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:18, 28 August 2018 (UTC) |
Hello again! I am back with an additional edit request for the "Campus" section, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail. Currently, the campus section has no information post-2011, so some updating is needed. I've suggested specific content and sourcing below for community review.
1. "In January 2015, the university announced a partnership with Wargaming and unveiled the Full Sail User Experience Lab, a new space that conducts over 100 user research projects per year. In March of the same year, Full Sail announced a digital entertainment studio named REBL HQ would now be housed on campus to produce premium online video programming.", per this source and this source for the first sentence, and this source and this source for the second sentence.
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2. "In August 2016, Full Sail began offering augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) coursework, in a space with two labs: the Fab Lab is equipped with manufacturing tools and the AR/VR Fabrication Lab houses the AR/VR program.", per this source, this source, and this source.
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I am looking for volunteer editors who can review these requested changes and update the article accordingly. Like before, I can respond to questions here or on my talk page. @ Lordtobi: Since this request is gaming-related, I'm curious if you're willing to take a look and offer feedback.
Thanks again! Inkian Jason ( talk) 21:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
I am back with another edit request, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail University. I'd like to point out two inaccuracies for editors to consider correcting:
Thank you. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again! It's my understanding that standalone "criticism" and "controversies" sections are discouraged, in order for articles to present information neutrally. An editor recently reviewed and copy edited this article (at my request) and as part of their edits, they created a separate Criticism section. I'm grateful for their review of the article, so I didn't want to push back on this with them if a Criticism section is something that editors would generally prefer.
However, I want to ask editors, is it reasonable to suggest removing the "Criticism" section heading? The criticism content seems related to the cost of academic programs and accreditation, so I'm not sure any text relocation is required -- the section heading could simply be removed and the criticism content would then fall under the "Academics" section. I should also note, there seemed to be support to remove the "Criticism" section heading above.
Thanks to editors for any feedback. @ Binksternet and Grama24: Pinging you two as well, since you weighed in on the criticism discussion above. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, I am back with an additional edit request for the "Campus" section, this time to mention to Lakeview property expansion, per this source. I propose the following: In 2011, Full Sail acquired Lakeview Office Park, with 225,550 square feet of office space across nine buildings. [1]
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@ Lordtobi: I am pinging you since you recently weighed in on the above campus request regarding Wargaming and the Full Sail User Experience Lab (where proposed wording is still welcome), as well as the update about Gateway Center. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:21, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi again, I have an additional request for improving this article, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail.
Currently, the introduction ends with the following: "In 2018 it had approximately 8900 undergraduate and 170 postgraduate students. In 2012, the tuition fee for a twenty-one-month course of study was approximately US$80,000." This content is problematic for a couple of reasons:
Given these concerns, I propose the following as replacement text for the introduction:
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I do not edit the main space directly, and I am asking for help from volunteer editors to review this request and update the article appropriately. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and thanks in advance for any help. Inkian Jason ( talk) 00:19, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Using the source you suggested, I updated the undergrad numbers to reflect the 2018 count as well as the tuition estimate to reflect a student who had taken 8 semesters total beginning in 2014/2015 and ending 2017/2018, a figure which works out to about 2000 dollars less than the figure you suggested to use for the yearly tuition.
spintendo 06:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the help above. However, the introduction still has an outdated figure for the postgraduate students. According to the NCES (same source used above), there were 1,697 postgraduate students, which is significantly higher than the article suggests. Is an editor willing to update the article? As a reminder, I'm working with Full Sail to propose article improvements, and I seek editor assistance because I do not edit the main space directly given my COI.
Thanks! Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Figures updated spintendo 21:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Spintendo, you removed sourced information about this from the article in order to satisfy the demands of a COI editor. It might perhaps have been courteous to invite input from the editor who had added that information (which in this case was, I believe, me). There's no reason to believe that the figures you added are any more "up-to-date" than those given by Petersons. I can't begin to explain the wide difference between the two sources, but perhaps someone else can? Meanwhile, I've reverted to the previous version. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 17:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
"removed sourced information about this from the article in order to satisfy the demands of a COI editor."Even mere considerations of tact seem to show the irrelevance of a situation where Inkian Jason places an edit request demand upon me — the same editor who they accused of incompetence at ANI not more than 5 months ago. I made the initial change not because they asked me to, but because I was familiar with the source they were requesting to be used (the Dept of Ed), a source which I believe to be reliable. spintendo 19:59, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello again. This discussion seems to have stalled, unfortunately, but I just wanted to share an update that Full Sail is actively working with Peterson's to update current enrollment numbers. In the meantime, please let me know if any other sources can be used to update this error. Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 19:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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@ Spintendo and Justlettersandnumbers: Hello again! As mentioned above, Full Sail has worked with Peterson's to update their website. Peterson's now says there are 8,921 students plus an additional 10,250 students enrolled in online degree programs. As I recall, you preferred this source to the National Center for Education Statistics to show the increased student population. Now that Peterson's shows the higher student population might one of you be willing to update the article's prose and infobox appropriately? Please see the above discussion if needed, thank you. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Lordtobi: I'm not sure why, but another editor changed the infobox number. Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:33, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again. I am back with an additional request to improve the "Campus" section. Currently, the section begins with the following:
I propose replacing the red-colored text with the following green-colored text, which is similar but less redundant and offers more specific information, such as the size of the campus and the number of studios:
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In the current article, "Winter Park" already appears three times before the "Campus" section (once in the lead, once in the infobox, and once in the "History" section), so I think removing "Winter Park" here is appropriate. Also, the next sentence starts with "The university moved to Winter Park...", so removing one use of "Winter Park" should not be confusing to readers. I've also added this Time article as an inline citation to verify the campus size and number of studios. This source is not currently used in the article, so I'm sharing markup for the inline citation, if helpful:
@ Lordtobi: I'm pinging you again since you've helped with recent requests, and of course I welcome all editors to weigh in here. Thanks again for your consideration and assistance. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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@ Lordtobi: I see User:Justlettersandnumbers removed the following sentence with this edit: "Full Sail University's approximately 200-acre (81 ha) campus is located 8.6 miles (13.8 km) northeast of downtown Orlando." The campus size and location seem standard for university articles (see University of Florida, University of Texas at Austin, etc). Are you willing to add back this sentence, or can we at least discuss options below? Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:08, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again. I'd like to submit another request, this time to add a claim about one of the university's distance education options for students. I propose the text:
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I don't edit the main space directly, so I'll let editors decide based on sourcing. @ PresN: "Pinging" you as a recent edit request reviewer. Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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For my next request, I'd like to propose adding mention of a major collaboration with the notable company Wargaming to the article's "Campus" section:
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There are multiple secondary sources describing the user experience lab, and editors might consider updating the Wargaming article as well. I should note, I touched on Wargaming in a subsequent edit request. Lordtobi was open to adding mention of the collaboration, but specific wording was not finalized and the article has not been updated. I've trimmed the proposed text for this request. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason ( talk) 19:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
The article feels too much like a list of things as opposed to properly written paragraphs. Can we try to do something about this? Add some connective tissue if you will. Zero Serenity ( talk - contributions) 18:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hello! I have another request for consideration, this time focused on Full Sail's augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) coursework. I propose the following:
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There are other sources to consider:
I'm not sure if this claim is more appropriate for the "Campus" section or the "Academics" section (this text is relevant to both), or if the sentence should be split so content can live in their respective sections. Ultimately, I will let editors decide how to add the content, if at all, but noting the AR/VR program's establishment as well as the campus' labs seem like appropriate updates. I should also note, I submitted a similar request (with additional claims) here, but User:Justlettersandnumbers rejected the addition for being too promotional. User:Lordtobi said adding mention may be appropriate with slightly different wording, but there was no consensus on preferred text. I am submitting slightly altered wording for reconsideration, and invite User:PresN and User:Zero Serenity to weigh in as well.
Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again. I'm submitting an edit request for what I believe are two noncontroversial changes:
I believe these are obvious improvements, but I do not edit the main space directly because of my COI, so I'm hoping another editor will review and implement on my behalf. Thank you, Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again! I have another request to submit on behalf of Full Sail, this time to add mention of TV4 Entertainment's global operations relocation to campus, per Variety, the West Orange Times & Observer, and the Orlando Business Journal ( link 1, link 2). I've proposed specific wording and sourcing below for editor review:
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@ Pppery: I'm curious if you'd be willing to review this request as well and update the article appropriately, since you helped above. The partnership has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources. I included Variety and West Orange Times & Observer as inline citations because I understand these are preferred over local business journal sources. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
"confirmed plans to relocate global operations", a confirmation of plans still involves those future plans, which is generally recommended as information not to add, per WP:FUTURE. Resubmit your request in April 2019, [1] after this move has occurred — along with references stating it has occurred.
"hire graduates in various fields"this is expected to take place "over the next few years" [2] — which should also be mentioned after it has occurred.
Regards, Spintendo 21:03, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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The partnership will officially kick off in April.
Over the next few years, according to TV4 Entertainment, it expects to create hundreds of new jobs to the Orlando region and most of those hires will be Full Sail alumni.
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Hi again. I'm back with another request, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail University. Following is the current "Awards" section:
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the Mix magazine's outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools. [1] In 2005 Rolling Stone called Full Sail “one of the five best music programs in the country”. [2] The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008 and 2011, [3] 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011, [4] and was the recipient of a 2011 New Media Consortium Center for Excellence award. [5] References
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There are a few other recognitions I believe are appropriate to add to this section, specifically rankings by College Magazine, In Tune Monthly, and The Princeton Review. I've proposed an updated "Awards" section below. The first half should look pretty familiar, but I've added additional dates and added a comma after "In 2005". The last paragraph has rankings by reputable sources grouped by program (first game design, then music). I've tried to be very brief, neutral, and keep content in chronological order. Following is a rendering of the proposed "Awards" section, which I'm hoping editors will review and implement appropriately:
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the Mix magazine's outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools. [1] In 2005, Rolling Stone called Full Sail "one of the five best music programs in the country". [2] The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008, 2011, [3] and 2014. [4] Full Sail was recognized for its 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011, [5] and was the recipient of New Media Consortium Center for Excellence Award in 2011 and 2015. [6] [7] Full Sail was included in The Princeton Review's 2010 list of the nation's top fifty undergraduate video game design programs, [8] and ranked number 17 and number 18 in their 2016 and 2018 lists of top 25 graduate schools for game design, respectively. [9] [10] Full Sail also ranked number 30 in The Princeton Review's list of undergraduate programs for game design. [11] In 2018, College Magazine ranked Full Sail number five in their list of the top 10 college for video game design. [12] In Tune Monthly included Full Sail in their 2017 and 2018 lists of the "best music schools". [13] [14] References
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the ''[[Mix (magazine)|Mix magazine]]''{{'s}} outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools.<ref>{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Former TEC Awards Winners |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041031001452/http://mixonline.com:80/TEC20/former-tec-winners/}}</ref> In 2005, ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' called Full Sail "one of the five best music programs in the country".<ref>{{cite news |title='Rolling Stone' names Full Sail one of five best music programs |url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2005/08/01/daily5.html?jst=b_ln_hl |accessdate=January 31, 2012 |newspaper=Orlando Business Journal |date=August 1, 2005}}</ref> The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008, 2011,<ref>{{cite web |title=FAPSC Honors the Best Among Career Colleges in Florida During 2011 |url=http://www.fapsc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=178 |accessdate=December 8, 2011}}</ref> and 2014.<ref>{{cite web |title=2014 Award Winners |url=https://www.fapsc.org/page/2014AwardWinners |accessdate=March 12, 2019 |publisher=Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges}}</ref> Full Sail was recognized for its 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the [[United States Distance Learning Association]] (USDLA) in 2011,<ref>{{cite news |title=Full Sail University Receives Numerous Honors from USDLA |url=http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx |accessdate=December 9, 2011 |newspaper=U.S. News |date=May 6, 2011 |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110905050938/http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx |archivedate=September 5, 2011 |df=}}</ref> and was the recipient of [[New Media Consortium]] Center for Excellence Award in 2011 and 2015.<ref>{{cite web |title=Center of Excellence Awards |url=http://www.nmc.org/about/center-excellence-awards |work=New Media Consortium |accessdate=December 10, 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |last1=Estrada |first1=Victoria |title=The NMC Announces the 2015 Center of Excellence Awards |url=https://www.nmc.org/blog/the-nmc-announces-the-2015-center-of-excellence-awards/ |publisher=[[New Media Consortium]] |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> Full Sail was included in [[The Princeton Review]]{{'s}} 2010 list of the nation's top fifty undergraduate video game design programs,<ref>{{cite news |title=The Princeton Review's Top 50 Undergraduate Video Game Design Programs |url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/02/the-princeton-reviews-top-50-undergraduate-game-design-programs--/1#.XIgIUi2ZOu5 |accessdate=March 12, 2019 |work=USA Today |date=February 28, 2010}}</ref> and ranked number 17 and number 18 in their 2016 and 2018 lists of top 25 graduate schools for game design, respectively.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Strauss |first1=Karsten |title=Top 25 Colleges and Graduate Schools to Study Game Design in 2016 |journal=Forbes |date=March 15, 2016 |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2016/03/15/top-25-colleges-and-graduates-schools-to-study-game-design-in-2016/#76c59854380d |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=Adams |first1=Susan |title=The Top Colleges and Grad Schools to Study Game Design |journal=Forbes |date=March 25, 2015 |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2015/03/25/the-top-colleges-and-grad-schools-to-study-game-design/#b61f625541f4 |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> Full Sail also ranked number 30 in The Princeton Review's list of undergraduate programs for game design.<ref>{{cite web |title=Top 50 Game Design: Ugrad |url=https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=top-50-game-design-ugrad&page=2 |publisher=[[The Princeton Review]] |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> In 2018, ''[[College Magazine]]'' ranked Full Sail number five in their list of the top 10 college for video game design.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Fintak |first1=Shelby Scott |title=The 10 Best Colleges for Video Game Design |journal=[[College Magazine]] |date=October 2, 2018 |url=https://www.collegemagazine.com/10-best-colleges-for-video-game-design/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> ''[[In Tune Monthly]]'' included Full Sail in their 2017 and 2018 lists of the "best music schools".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Best Music Schools 2017 |journal=[[In Tune Monthly]] |date=October 2016 |url=https://www.intunemonthly.com/college17/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |title=Best Music Schools 2018 |journal=In Tune Monthly |date=October 2017 |url=https://www.intunemonthly.com/college18/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><br> |
I don't edit the main space directly, so I'm seeking editors to review and update the live article.
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:02, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again! I'm back with an additional request, this time to add mention of the planned esports arena to the article's "Campus" section.
I propose the following text and source:
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Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello again. I'd like to propose an update to the article's text regarding the esports arena known as "The Fortress". Currently the article says:
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The arena's construction is complete, so the article should not discuss the project as something still to happen ("is scheduled to be completed" and "is planned to be"). This source says, "Less than a year after it was announced, Full Sail University has officially opened the largest collegiate esports arena in the country... The Fortress is home to Full Sail’s esports team, the Armada." [1] This source also confirms the opening, specs (11,200-square-foot, fits up to 500 fans, 400 LED tiles), and that the arena is home of the collegiate e-sports team, Armada. I propose updating the article's text to the following:
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@ PresN: You assisted with the previous edit request to add mention of the arena, so I was wondering if you'd be willing to update the article's text based on this new sourcing. I've replaced mention of the estimated construction cost with mention of the Armada esports team, which I think provides a bit more insight into the university's culture. I'm certainly open to alternative wording based on what you think are the most important aspects of the arena.
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 22:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again! I am back with an additional edit request, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail, in an attempt to update the Wikipedia article.
Currently, the "History" section does not have any information post-2012, and ends with the following: "Later that year, WWE began filming episodes of its internet television show WWE NXT at Full Sail University." There is actually a much stronger partnership between Full Sail and WWE, spanning years and involving multiple series tapings and a student scholarship program. I propose adding an update on the ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE:
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In June 2015, Full Sail began hosting the ''[[WWE Tough Enough]]'' series.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Boedeker|first1=Hal|title='WWE Tough Enough' calls Full Sail home|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/tv-guy/os-wwe-tough-enough-calls-full-sail-home-20150619-post.html|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=June 19, 2015}}</ref> As part of an ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE, students receive opportunities to produce ''WWE NXT'' tapings, and merchandise and tickets sales contribute to a scholarship fund for students enrolled at the university.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Sullivan|first1=Erin|title=Full Sail partners with WWE|url=http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2012/05/14/full-sail-partners-with-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Weekly|date=May 14, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Full Sail student gets $10K from WWE|url=http://www.orangeobserver.com/photo-gallery/full-sail-student-gets-10k-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orange Observer|date=October 3, 2012}}</ref> As of January 2018, the partnership between WWE and Full Sail had resulted in $385,000 in scholarships.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Reddick|first1=Jay|title=WWE surprises Full Sail student with $25,000 scholarship|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/wrestling/os-wwe-full-sail-scholarship-20180117-story.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=January 17, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Varsallone|first1=Jim|title=How WWE surprised scholarship winner in honor of Raw 25|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article195895024.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Miami Herald|date=January 21, 2018}}</ref> |
Thanks in advance. Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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As disclosed above, I am currently working with Full Sail University to make improvements to this Wikipedia article. In particular, I was aiming to resolve the three warning tags at the top of the article with my edit requests. (Focusing on adding sourcing, removing unsourced content, and trimming out inappropriately sourced details.) As the requests have been quite large and I see how it can be difficult to work through them, I'd be happy to take a more targeted approach, if you will. To that end, can editors help specify which content they feel is currently problematic and then I can offer specific requests to address concerns?
A significant amount of unsourced content has been removed, based on previous edit requests, so I do wonder if some tags may no longer apply. Either way, knowing what should be addressed would be helpful for proposing additional improvements to the page that are easier for editors to review and implement. Thank you for any feedback. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
@ Justlettersandnumbers: Since you've participated in a couple discussions below, I'm curious if you're willing to share why you feel the "neutrality" tag at the top of the article is necessary. I'd like to try addressing specific concerns, if possible. Inkian Jason ( talk) 21:40, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Done. Inkian Jason, after two weeks with no further response, remarks, concerns and entire page history as well as archived peer review, I have removed the remaining tag for neutrality. The other two tags were already removed because of perceived and tangible improvement to article and this editor sees no reason to unilaterally hold up further sections and requests. Sincerely and all the best for continued progress. Fylbecatulous talk 03:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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I am back with an additional edit request to update this Wikipedia article, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail. As mentioned above, the current article has little information about the university since 2012. I propose adding mention of the school's Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting, which was established in 2017. I'm not sure if this addition would be more appropriate for the "Academics" section or the "History" section, but I suggest the following update:
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Thanks again for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 01:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again! I am back to propose an additional improvement to this article on behalf of Full Sail. Per User:Justlettersandnumbers' suggestion above to focus on significant omissions, I have drafted an expanded list of notable people for the article's "Notable people" section. Currently, the section mentions only Dave Arneson, Stedman Graham, and Machinedrum. I've expanded this section to include a (completely sourced) list of other notable instructors and alumni associated with Full Sail.
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Instructors at Full Sail have included Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Dave Arneson, who taught game design, [1] and Stedman Graham. [2] [3] The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009. [4] Notable alumni include:
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Instructors at Full Sail have included [[Dungeons & Dragons]] co-creator [[Dave Arneson]], who taught game design,<ref>{{cite news|title=Obituary: David Arneson|url=https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/apr/24/obituary-david-arneson-dungeons-dragons-creator|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=[[The Guardian]]|date=April 23, 2009}}</ref> and [[Stedman Graham]].<ref>{{cite news|title='He didn't love me at first sight'|url=http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/lifestyle/-He-didn-t-love-me-at-first-sight-_13363578|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=[[The Jamaica Observer]]|date=January 14, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Boedeker|first1=Hal|title=An Oprah moment: Maximize your life, Graham tells class|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-08-25/news/stedman_1_stedman-graham-winfrey-full-sail|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=August 25, 2009}}</ref> The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009.<ref>{{Cite journal|url=https://www.mixonline.com/technology/full-sail-university-unveil-hall-fame-383471|title=Full Sail University to Unveil Hall of Fame|date=February 17, 2009|accessdate=May 15, 2018|work=Mix Online}}</ref> Notable alumni include: {{Div col}} |
Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions. Inkian Jason ( talk) 14:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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Instructors at Full Sail have included Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Dave Arneson, who taught game design, [1] and Stedman Graham. [2] [3] The school created the Full Sail University Hall of Fame to recognize accomplished alumni in 2009. [4] Notable alumni include:
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I have another suggestion for this Wikipedia article, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail. Currently, the "History" section has the following 2 paragraphs:
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I propose merging these 2 paragraphs to improve flow. Additionally, I propose adding mention of a partnership with a major university and a snapshot of Full Sail's degree offerings and student population from the same time period:
The claims can be verified by this source, which is already used in the existing article (defined as "UF and Full Sail").
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As the university grew between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened, [1] adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media, [2] and a master of science degree in game design. [3] On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame. [4] In late 2011, the University of Florida and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students. [5] Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time. [5] References
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As the university grew between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened,<ref name="OBJ 10 new programs">{{cite news|last=Carstensen|first=Melinda|title=Full Sail to launch 10 new degree programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2010/08/30/focus2.html?page=all|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 August 2010}}</ref> adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media,<ref name="wide world of sports">{{cite news|title=Full Sail, Wide World of Sports ink deal|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2011/03/30/full-sail-espn-wide-world-of-sports.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 March 2011}}</ref> and a master of science degree in game design.<ref name="OBJ Game Design">{{cite news|title=Full Sail University to offer new master's degree in game design|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2008/09/08/daily26.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=10 September 2008}}</ref> On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame.<ref name="Fame">{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Full Sail University to Unveil Hall of Fame |url=http://mixonline.com/news/headline/fullsail_university_hof_1702}}</ref> In late 2011, the [[University of Florida]] and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> |
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Wikipedia does not tolerate promotion of any kind, including this kind; nor does it care to any appreciable extent what any institution chooses to say about itself. Our content is built on what is reported in independent reliable sources, which do not include company press-releases reprinted in the local newspaper. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:18, 28 August 2018 (UTC) |
Hello again! I am back with an additional edit request for the "Campus" section, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail. Currently, the campus section has no information post-2011, so some updating is needed. I've suggested specific content and sourcing below for community review.
1. "In January 2015, the university announced a partnership with Wargaming and unveiled the Full Sail User Experience Lab, a new space that conducts over 100 user research projects per year. In March of the same year, Full Sail announced a digital entertainment studio named REBL HQ would now be housed on campus to produce premium online video programming.", per this source and this source for the first sentence, and this source and this source for the second sentence.
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2. "In August 2016, Full Sail began offering augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) coursework, in a space with two labs: the Fab Lab is equipped with manufacturing tools and the AR/VR Fabrication Lab houses the AR/VR program.", per this source, this source, and this source.
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I am looking for volunteer editors who can review these requested changes and update the article accordingly. Like before, I can respond to questions here or on my talk page. @ Lordtobi: Since this request is gaming-related, I'm curious if you're willing to take a look and offer feedback.
Thanks again! Inkian Jason ( talk) 21:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
I am back with another edit request, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail University. I'd like to point out two inaccuracies for editors to consider correcting:
Thank you. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again! It's my understanding that standalone "criticism" and "controversies" sections are discouraged, in order for articles to present information neutrally. An editor recently reviewed and copy edited this article (at my request) and as part of their edits, they created a separate Criticism section. I'm grateful for their review of the article, so I didn't want to push back on this with them if a Criticism section is something that editors would generally prefer.
However, I want to ask editors, is it reasonable to suggest removing the "Criticism" section heading? The criticism content seems related to the cost of academic programs and accreditation, so I'm not sure any text relocation is required -- the section heading could simply be removed and the criticism content would then fall under the "Academics" section. I should also note, there seemed to be support to remove the "Criticism" section heading above.
Thanks to editors for any feedback. @ Binksternet and Grama24: Pinging you two as well, since you weighed in on the criticism discussion above. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, I am back with an additional edit request for the "Campus" section, this time to mention to Lakeview property expansion, per this source. I propose the following: In 2011, Full Sail acquired Lakeview Office Park, with 225,550 square feet of office space across nine buildings. [1]
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@ Lordtobi: I am pinging you since you recently weighed in on the above campus request regarding Wargaming and the Full Sail User Experience Lab (where proposed wording is still welcome), as well as the update about Gateway Center. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:21, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi again, I have an additional request for improving this article, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail.
Currently, the introduction ends with the following: "In 2018 it had approximately 8900 undergraduate and 170 postgraduate students. In 2012, the tuition fee for a twenty-one-month course of study was approximately US$80,000." This content is problematic for a couple of reasons:
Given these concerns, I propose the following as replacement text for the introduction:
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I do not edit the main space directly, and I am asking for help from volunteer editors to review this request and update the article appropriately. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and thanks in advance for any help. Inkian Jason ( talk) 00:19, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Using the source you suggested, I updated the undergrad numbers to reflect the 2018 count as well as the tuition estimate to reflect a student who had taken 8 semesters total beginning in 2014/2015 and ending 2017/2018, a figure which works out to about 2000 dollars less than the figure you suggested to use for the yearly tuition.
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Thanks for the help above. However, the introduction still has an outdated figure for the postgraduate students. According to the NCES (same source used above), there were 1,697 postgraduate students, which is significantly higher than the article suggests. Is an editor willing to update the article? As a reminder, I'm working with Full Sail to propose article improvements, and I seek editor assistance because I do not edit the main space directly given my COI.
Thanks! Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Figures updated spintendo 21:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Spintendo, you removed sourced information about this from the article in order to satisfy the demands of a COI editor. It might perhaps have been courteous to invite input from the editor who had added that information (which in this case was, I believe, me). There's no reason to believe that the figures you added are any more "up-to-date" than those given by Petersons. I can't begin to explain the wide difference between the two sources, but perhaps someone else can? Meanwhile, I've reverted to the previous version. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 17:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
"removed sourced information about this from the article in order to satisfy the demands of a COI editor."Even mere considerations of tact seem to show the irrelevance of a situation where Inkian Jason places an edit request demand upon me — the same editor who they accused of incompetence at ANI not more than 5 months ago. I made the initial change not because they asked me to, but because I was familiar with the source they were requesting to be used (the Dept of Ed), a source which I believe to be reliable. spintendo 19:59, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello again. This discussion seems to have stalled, unfortunately, but I just wanted to share an update that Full Sail is actively working with Peterson's to update current enrollment numbers. In the meantime, please let me know if any other sources can be used to update this error. Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 19:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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@ Spintendo and Justlettersandnumbers: Hello again! As mentioned above, Full Sail has worked with Peterson's to update their website. Peterson's now says there are 8,921 students plus an additional 10,250 students enrolled in online degree programs. As I recall, you preferred this source to the National Center for Education Statistics to show the increased student population. Now that Peterson's shows the higher student population might one of you be willing to update the article's prose and infobox appropriately? Please see the above discussion if needed, thank you. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Lordtobi: I'm not sure why, but another editor changed the infobox number. Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:33, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again. I am back with an additional request to improve the "Campus" section. Currently, the section begins with the following:
I propose replacing the red-colored text with the following green-colored text, which is similar but less redundant and offers more specific information, such as the size of the campus and the number of studios:
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In the current article, "Winter Park" already appears three times before the "Campus" section (once in the lead, once in the infobox, and once in the "History" section), so I think removing "Winter Park" here is appropriate. Also, the next sentence starts with "The university moved to Winter Park...", so removing one use of "Winter Park" should not be confusing to readers. I've also added this Time article as an inline citation to verify the campus size and number of studios. This source is not currently used in the article, so I'm sharing markup for the inline citation, if helpful:
@ Lordtobi: I'm pinging you again since you've helped with recent requests, and of course I welcome all editors to weigh in here. Thanks again for your consideration and assistance. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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@ Lordtobi: I see User:Justlettersandnumbers removed the following sentence with this edit: "Full Sail University's approximately 200-acre (81 ha) campus is located 8.6 miles (13.8 km) northeast of downtown Orlando." The campus size and location seem standard for university articles (see University of Florida, University of Texas at Austin, etc). Are you willing to add back this sentence, or can we at least discuss options below? Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:08, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again. I'd like to submit another request, this time to add a claim about one of the university's distance education options for students. I propose the text:
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I don't edit the main space directly, so I'll let editors decide based on sourcing. @ PresN: "Pinging" you as a recent edit request reviewer. Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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For my next request, I'd like to propose adding mention of a major collaboration with the notable company Wargaming to the article's "Campus" section:
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There are multiple secondary sources describing the user experience lab, and editors might consider updating the Wargaming article as well. I should note, I touched on Wargaming in a subsequent edit request. Lordtobi was open to adding mention of the collaboration, but specific wording was not finalized and the article has not been updated. I've trimmed the proposed text for this request. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason ( talk) 19:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
The article feels too much like a list of things as opposed to properly written paragraphs. Can we try to do something about this? Add some connective tissue if you will. Zero Serenity ( talk - contributions) 18:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hello! I have another request for consideration, this time focused on Full Sail's augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) coursework. I propose the following:
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There are other sources to consider:
I'm not sure if this claim is more appropriate for the "Campus" section or the "Academics" section (this text is relevant to both), or if the sentence should be split so content can live in their respective sections. Ultimately, I will let editors decide how to add the content, if at all, but noting the AR/VR program's establishment as well as the campus' labs seem like appropriate updates. I should also note, I submitted a similar request (with additional claims) here, but User:Justlettersandnumbers rejected the addition for being too promotional. User:Lordtobi said adding mention may be appropriate with slightly different wording, but there was no consensus on preferred text. I am submitting slightly altered wording for reconsideration, and invite User:PresN and User:Zero Serenity to weigh in as well.
Thanks, Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again. I'm submitting an edit request for what I believe are two noncontroversial changes:
I believe these are obvious improvements, but I do not edit the main space directly because of my COI, so I'm hoping another editor will review and implement on my behalf. Thank you, Inkian Jason ( talk) 23:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again! I have another request to submit on behalf of Full Sail, this time to add mention of TV4 Entertainment's global operations relocation to campus, per Variety, the West Orange Times & Observer, and the Orlando Business Journal ( link 1, link 2). I've proposed specific wording and sourcing below for editor review:
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@ Pppery: I'm curious if you'd be willing to review this request as well and update the article appropriately, since you helped above. The partnership has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources. I included Variety and West Orange Times & Observer as inline citations because I understand these are preferred over local business journal sources. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason ( talk) 17:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
"confirmed plans to relocate global operations", a confirmation of plans still involves those future plans, which is generally recommended as information not to add, per WP:FUTURE. Resubmit your request in April 2019, [1] after this move has occurred — along with references stating it has occurred.
"hire graduates in various fields"this is expected to take place "over the next few years" [2] — which should also be mentioned after it has occurred.
Regards, Spintendo 21:03, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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The partnership will officially kick off in April.
Over the next few years, according to TV4 Entertainment, it expects to create hundreds of new jobs to the Orlando region and most of those hires will be Full Sail alumni.
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Hi again. I'm back with another request, which I'm submitting on behalf of Full Sail University. Following is the current "Awards" section:
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the Mix magazine's outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools. [1] In 2005 Rolling Stone called Full Sail “one of the five best music programs in the country”. [2] The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008 and 2011, [3] 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011, [4] and was the recipient of a 2011 New Media Consortium Center for Excellence award. [5] References
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There are a few other recognitions I believe are appropriate to add to this section, specifically rankings by College Magazine, In Tune Monthly, and The Princeton Review. I've proposed an updated "Awards" section below. The first half should look pretty familiar, but I've added additional dates and added a comma after "In 2005". The last paragraph has rankings by reputable sources grouped by program (first game design, then music). I've tried to be very brief, neutral, and keep content in chronological order. Following is a rendering of the proposed "Awards" section, which I'm hoping editors will review and implement appropriately:
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the Mix magazine's outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools. [1] In 2005, Rolling Stone called Full Sail "one of the five best music programs in the country". [2] The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008, 2011, [3] and 2014. [4] Full Sail was recognized for its 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011, [5] and was the recipient of New Media Consortium Center for Excellence Award in 2011 and 2015. [6] [7] Full Sail was included in The Princeton Review's 2010 list of the nation's top fifty undergraduate video game design programs, [8] and ranked number 17 and number 18 in their 2016 and 2018 lists of top 25 graduate schools for game design, respectively. [9] [10] Full Sail also ranked number 30 in The Princeton Review's list of undergraduate programs for game design. [11] In 2018, College Magazine ranked Full Sail number five in their list of the top 10 college for video game design. [12] In Tune Monthly included Full Sail in their 2017 and 2018 lists of the "best music schools". [13] [14] References
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In 1989, 1990, and 1991, the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts won the ''[[Mix (magazine)|Mix magazine]]''{{'s}} outstanding institutional achievement award for recording schools.<ref>{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Former TEC Awards Winners |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041031001452/http://mixonline.com:80/TEC20/former-tec-winners/}}</ref> In 2005, ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' called Full Sail "one of the five best music programs in the country".<ref>{{cite news |title='Rolling Stone' names Full Sail one of five best music programs |url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2005/08/01/daily5.html?jst=b_ln_hl |accessdate=January 31, 2012 |newspaper=Orlando Business Journal |date=August 1, 2005}}</ref> The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008, 2011,<ref>{{cite web |title=FAPSC Honors the Best Among Career Colleges in Florida During 2011 |url=http://www.fapsc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=178 |accessdate=December 8, 2011}}</ref> and 2014.<ref>{{cite web |title=2014 Award Winners |url=https://www.fapsc.org/page/2014AwardWinners |accessdate=March 12, 2019 |publisher=Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges}}</ref> Full Sail was recognized for its 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the [[United States Distance Learning Association]] (USDLA) in 2011,<ref>{{cite news |title=Full Sail University Receives Numerous Honors from USDLA |url=http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx |accessdate=December 9, 2011 |newspaper=U.S. News |date=May 6, 2011 |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110905050938/http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx |archivedate=September 5, 2011 |df=}}</ref> and was the recipient of [[New Media Consortium]] Center for Excellence Award in 2011 and 2015.<ref>{{cite web |title=Center of Excellence Awards |url=http://www.nmc.org/about/center-excellence-awards |work=New Media Consortium |accessdate=December 10, 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |last1=Estrada |first1=Victoria |title=The NMC Announces the 2015 Center of Excellence Awards |url=https://www.nmc.org/blog/the-nmc-announces-the-2015-center-of-excellence-awards/ |publisher=[[New Media Consortium]] |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> Full Sail was included in [[The Princeton Review]]{{'s}} 2010 list of the nation's top fifty undergraduate video game design programs,<ref>{{cite news |title=The Princeton Review's Top 50 Undergraduate Video Game Design Programs |url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/02/the-princeton-reviews-top-50-undergraduate-game-design-programs--/1#.XIgIUi2ZOu5 |accessdate=March 12, 2019 |work=USA Today |date=February 28, 2010}}</ref> and ranked number 17 and number 18 in their 2016 and 2018 lists of top 25 graduate schools for game design, respectively.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Strauss |first1=Karsten |title=Top 25 Colleges and Graduate Schools to Study Game Design in 2016 |journal=Forbes |date=March 15, 2016 |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2016/03/15/top-25-colleges-and-graduates-schools-to-study-game-design-in-2016/#76c59854380d |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=Adams |first1=Susan |title=The Top Colleges and Grad Schools to Study Game Design |journal=Forbes |date=March 25, 2015 |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2015/03/25/the-top-colleges-and-grad-schools-to-study-game-design/#b61f625541f4 |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> Full Sail also ranked number 30 in The Princeton Review's list of undergraduate programs for game design.<ref>{{cite web |title=Top 50 Game Design: Ugrad |url=https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=top-50-game-design-ugrad&page=2 |publisher=[[The Princeton Review]] |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> In 2018, ''[[College Magazine]]'' ranked Full Sail number five in their list of the top 10 college for video game design.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Fintak |first1=Shelby Scott |title=The 10 Best Colleges for Video Game Design |journal=[[College Magazine]] |date=October 2, 2018 |url=https://www.collegemagazine.com/10-best-colleges-for-video-game-design/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref> ''[[In Tune Monthly]]'' included Full Sail in their 2017 and 2018 lists of the "best music schools".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Best Music Schools 2017 |journal=[[In Tune Monthly]] |date=October 2016 |url=https://www.intunemonthly.com/college17/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |title=Best Music Schools 2018 |journal=In Tune Monthly |date=October 2017 |url=https://www.intunemonthly.com/college18/ |accessdate=March 12, 2019}}</ref><br> |
I don't edit the main space directly, so I'm seeking editors to review and update the live article.
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:02, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hello again! I'm back with an additional request, this time to add mention of the planned esports arena to the article's "Campus" section.
I propose the following text and source:
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Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello again. I'd like to propose an update to the article's text regarding the esports arena known as "The Fortress". Currently the article says:
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The arena's construction is complete, so the article should not discuss the project as something still to happen ("is scheduled to be completed" and "is planned to be"). This source says, "Less than a year after it was announced, Full Sail University has officially opened the largest collegiate esports arena in the country... The Fortress is home to Full Sail’s esports team, the Armada." [1] This source also confirms the opening, specs (11,200-square-foot, fits up to 500 fans, 400 LED tiles), and that the arena is home of the collegiate e-sports team, Armada. I propose updating the article's text to the following:
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@ PresN: You assisted with the previous edit request to add mention of the arena, so I was wondering if you'd be willing to update the article's text based on this new sourcing. I've replaced mention of the estimated construction cost with mention of the Armada esports team, which I think provides a bit more insight into the university's culture. I'm certainly open to alternative wording based on what you think are the most important aspects of the arena.
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 22:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)