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The article states in section 1.3 "...because motor fuels are non-polar, no such alignment or other magnetic effect on the fuel is possible. When tested, typical magnet devices had no effect on vehicle performance or economy."
First of all, the non-polarity of fuel molecules speaks to their behaviour in an electric field, NOT a magnetic field. The relevant quantity in this case would be their magnetic dipole moment.
Secondly, we are told that typical devices have no effect. What about the atypical ones? Are there any?
I am not a 'believer' in these devices, but I found this section to be more about debunking than documenting. To start off with a specious scientific argument that these things _can't_ work, and then mutter about 'typical' devices gives the reader nothing. Less than nothing, actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlantTrees ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
"There are also genuinely useful 'emissions-control defeat devices' that operate by allowing a vehicle's engine to operate outside government-imposed tailpipe emissions parameters."
No doubt written by someone who is now frothing at the mouth over VW's naughtiness. Greglocock ( talk) 22:50, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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This article has a gross bias to dubunking. This is an encyclopedia not a consumer tabloid. Facts please, balanced ones. And Add the devices that do work (like water injection, intercooling, turbo charging etc). DO NOT remove the NPOV tag til then, as it will apply until this is done and the existing segments corrected.
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The article states in section 1.3 "...because motor fuels are non-polar, no such alignment or other magnetic effect on the fuel is possible. When tested, typical magnet devices had no effect on vehicle performance or economy."
First of all, the non-polarity of fuel molecules speaks to their behaviour in an electric field, NOT a magnetic field. The relevant quantity in this case would be their magnetic dipole moment.
Secondly, we are told that typical devices have no effect. What about the atypical ones? Are there any?
I am not a 'believer' in these devices, but I found this section to be more about debunking than documenting. To start off with a specious scientific argument that these things _can't_ work, and then mutter about 'typical' devices gives the reader nothing. Less than nothing, actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlantTrees ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
"There are also genuinely useful 'emissions-control defeat devices' that operate by allowing a vehicle's engine to operate outside government-imposed tailpipe emissions parameters."
No doubt written by someone who is now frothing at the mouth over VW's naughtiness. Greglocock ( talk) 22:50, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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This article has a gross bias to dubunking. This is an encyclopedia not a consumer tabloid. Facts please, balanced ones. And Add the devices that do work (like water injection, intercooling, turbo charging etc). DO NOT remove the NPOV tag til then, as it will apply until this is done and the existing segments corrected.
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