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Updated the article with much expanded (and I hope, better) material. Created the talk page with banners. Notuncurious ( talk) 00:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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The 150AD image shows the province of Flevoland it seems, land that was not there until the 1980's or so. Urk is not an island, also faulty. The whole Zyderzee is not there. Currentday Zeeland province also shows current borders with the Deltaworks, it is impossible all that land could be anywhere near dry if they are not in place. Deleting the image is probably for the best. -Lezzmeister — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.185.210 ( talk) 13:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm confused about something in the Frisii article. In the lead, we read:
but in the article on Frisians, in the section Frisians#History, the second paragraph is:
It seems to me that the first statement from the Frisii article is not strongly supported by the information in the paragraph from the Frisians article. Could someone who knows this subject clarify this for me? CorinneSD ( talk) 20:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
We should keep in mind that Wikipedia aims to summarize what has been published in the fields with the most relevant expertise. It is not part of our mission to debate beyond what is published. -- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 10:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
The article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns says:
In the German "Saga of Tidreck of Bern", its written versions beginning from the 13th century, the Huns are called Frisians. Frisia was often called Hunaland in the Middle Ages.[111][112]
Is this correct? If so, it should be mentioned on this page. Bayle Shanks ( talk) 05:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the following from the lead. It currently does not reflect anything explained in more convincing detail in the body of the current article, is not well-sourced, and it interrupts discussion of the Frisii themselves. Perhaps something similar but better written can eventually be integrated into the body of the article.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 09:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
In the
Germanic pre-
Migration Period (i.e., before c. 300 AD) the Frisii and the related
Chauci,
Saxons, and
Angles — so closely related that their languages were probably mutually intelligible,
Old Frisian considered the closest language to
Old English — inhabited the
Continental European coast from the
Zuyder Zee to south
Jutland.
[1] All of these peoples shared a common material culture, and so cannot be defined archaeologically.
[2] On the east they were originally bordered by the
Ampsivarii who lived at the mouth of the Ems until AD 58,
[3]
[4] at which time the Chauci expelled them and gained a border with the Frisii.
The Chauci to the east were eventually assimilated by their presumed descendants the Saxons in the 3rd century. |
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Updated the article with much expanded (and I hope, better) material. Created the talk page with banners. Notuncurious ( talk) 00:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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The 150AD image shows the province of Flevoland it seems, land that was not there until the 1980's or so. Urk is not an island, also faulty. The whole Zyderzee is not there. Currentday Zeeland province also shows current borders with the Deltaworks, it is impossible all that land could be anywhere near dry if they are not in place. Deleting the image is probably for the best. -Lezzmeister — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.185.210 ( talk) 13:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm confused about something in the Frisii article. In the lead, we read:
but in the article on Frisians, in the section Frisians#History, the second paragraph is:
It seems to me that the first statement from the Frisii article is not strongly supported by the information in the paragraph from the Frisians article. Could someone who knows this subject clarify this for me? CorinneSD ( talk) 20:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
We should keep in mind that Wikipedia aims to summarize what has been published in the fields with the most relevant expertise. It is not part of our mission to debate beyond what is published. -- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 10:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
The article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns says:
In the German "Saga of Tidreck of Bern", its written versions beginning from the 13th century, the Huns are called Frisians. Frisia was often called Hunaland in the Middle Ages.[111][112]
Is this correct? If so, it should be mentioned on this page. Bayle Shanks ( talk) 05:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the following from the lead. It currently does not reflect anything explained in more convincing detail in the body of the current article, is not well-sourced, and it interrupts discussion of the Frisii themselves. Perhaps something similar but better written can eventually be integrated into the body of the article.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 09:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
In the
Germanic pre-
Migration Period (i.e., before c. 300 AD) the Frisii and the related
Chauci,
Saxons, and
Angles — so closely related that their languages were probably mutually intelligible,
Old Frisian considered the closest language to
Old English — inhabited the
Continental European coast from the
Zuyder Zee to south
Jutland.
[1] All of these peoples shared a common material culture, and so cannot be defined archaeologically.
[2] On the east they were originally bordered by the
Ampsivarii who lived at the mouth of the Ems until AD 58,
[3]
[4] at which time the Chauci expelled them and gained a border with the Frisii.
The Chauci to the east were eventually assimilated by their presumed descendants the Saxons in the 3rd century. |
References
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