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Proposed new layout
This disambig page has gotten quite big. I think the best layout now would be to divide things up into categories; however I'm not so sure it looks right, and don't want to make any changes until I've got further opinions. I've stuck the proposed new layout at
Talk:Friends (disambiguation)/newlayout - see what you think, and give suggestions. Thanks. Nugetalk01:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)reply
Why is society in a different type of category? - it (kindof) makes sense, that that meaning is given precidence, but maybe the second section should be given the name other meanings or something- not sure what the general schema is for disambiguation.
Wideofthemark00:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Requested move 12 April 2019
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Oppose. There is no astonish, since the page is very highly viewed, most people probably are where they want, and you don't need to make them click extra. And Category:Friends is about the TV series. --
Quiz shows20:27, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Per above. As an aside, I'm generally not a fan of these discussions taking place on the disambiguation page, but that's a discussion for another day. Calidum03:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Support, but move to
Friends (1994 U.S. TV series) - due to
other series with that name (
WP:INCDAB), and per
WP:ASTONISH and
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (everyday usage and long-term significance). A TV show never deserves primary status over an everyday term from which it inherits its meaning - view counts be damned. Just like any corporate creation, we should follow the
apple/
Apple Inc. precedent. I am fine with waiting to move the DAB page for 30 days after the TV show article has been moved, to allow external search engines to catch up. ADDED: correction to disambiguation due to other series. --
Netoholic@10:24, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Are you saying a TV show isn't a corporate creation? The idea behind apple/Apple Inc. wasn't because it was about the name of the company - it was to make a distinction between general knowledge vs. corporate use of a term as a logo/title. --
Netoholic@21:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Like any topic, the vast majority of visitors come from outside Wikipedia via search engines. Those search engines largely don't care what we title our articles (in fact, they often specifically ignore page titles in favor of keywords and context). After a page move, on the very next scan, they'll detect the change in URL and start using that - often within 24 hours. Comparing with disambig page views is the false equivalence. --
Netoholic@21:05, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Also DAB pages are less confusing and are easier to load, in addition to the fact that you have to load the sitcome page and the DAB if you're looking for
Quakers or one of the large number of other uses. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
21:09, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Support. Not a ridiculous nomination at all. The clear primary meaning is the plural of friend, however popular the series may be. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
13:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)reply
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requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
talk page or in a
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Proposed new layout
This disambig page has gotten quite big. I think the best layout now would be to divide things up into categories; however I'm not so sure it looks right, and don't want to make any changes until I've got further opinions. I've stuck the proposed new layout at
Talk:Friends (disambiguation)/newlayout - see what you think, and give suggestions. Thanks. Nugetalk01:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)reply
Why is society in a different type of category? - it (kindof) makes sense, that that meaning is given precidence, but maybe the second section should be given the name other meanings or something- not sure what the general schema is for disambiguation.
Wideofthemark00:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Requested move 12 April 2019
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Oppose. There is no astonish, since the page is very highly viewed, most people probably are where they want, and you don't need to make them click extra. And Category:Friends is about the TV series. --
Quiz shows20:27, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Per above. As an aside, I'm generally not a fan of these discussions taking place on the disambiguation page, but that's a discussion for another day. Calidum03:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Support, but move to
Friends (1994 U.S. TV series) - due to
other series with that name (
WP:INCDAB), and per
WP:ASTONISH and
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (everyday usage and long-term significance). A TV show never deserves primary status over an everyday term from which it inherits its meaning - view counts be damned. Just like any corporate creation, we should follow the
apple/
Apple Inc. precedent. I am fine with waiting to move the DAB page for 30 days after the TV show article has been moved, to allow external search engines to catch up. ADDED: correction to disambiguation due to other series. --
Netoholic@10:24, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Are you saying a TV show isn't a corporate creation? The idea behind apple/Apple Inc. wasn't because it was about the name of the company - it was to make a distinction between general knowledge vs. corporate use of a term as a logo/title. --
Netoholic@21:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Like any topic, the vast majority of visitors come from outside Wikipedia via search engines. Those search engines largely don't care what we title our articles (in fact, they often specifically ignore page titles in favor of keywords and context). After a page move, on the very next scan, they'll detect the change in URL and start using that - often within 24 hours. Comparing with disambig page views is the false equivalence. --
Netoholic@21:05, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Also DAB pages are less confusing and are easier to load, in addition to the fact that you have to load the sitcome page and the DAB if you're looking for
Quakers or one of the large number of other uses. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
21:09, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Support. Not a ridiculous nomination at all. The clear primary meaning is the plural of friend, however popular the series may be. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
13:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this
talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.