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I find learning freeciv somewhat difficult for a beginner. Should a section be there on how to start, and proceed with the game? -- Phoe6 20:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
If anyone knows the answer, I think it would be very valuable (and encyclopedic) if this page explained the copyright issues involved in Freeciv.
Currently this page simply says:
I think this sentence makes two claims that may be false, and certainly need some sort of justification to avoid being POV
"Inspired by"??? No, Freeciv is Civ. In fact, I would argue that Freeciv is closer to Civ 1 than Civ 2 is to Civ 1, and nobody says that Civ 2 is merely "inspired by" Civ 1.
Edit: I have changed it to say Civ 2. This is as Civ 1 uses a top down view and Civ2 and freeciv use isometric
I understand that some of you may be Freeciv players with a vested interest in Sid Meier not suing for money from Freeciv. But if such a lawsuit happened, any court in the world would rule that Freeciv was not merely "inspired by" Civ, but copied almost all of its details, usually quite literally.
"Released under the GNU GPL..." By what right? If Sid Meier owned the original copyright, then he would have had to relinquish these rights in order for Freeciv to be under copyleft.
What I am writing here is partially speculation (and that's why I haven't edited the main page). Can someone who knows the true story please clarify?
And one final nitpick. The opening sentence says that Freeciv is "for personal computers". As someone who spent three years in grad school playing Freeciv on the Unix machines in our math department, let me assure you that Freeciv is far more widely used than just on the PC market. This probably needs to be revised as well. — Lawrence King ( talk) 07:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Interesting. The government website you linked to says that a particlar part of a game "may be subject to copyright if it contains a sufficient amount of literary or pictorial expression." I'm now very curious what "sufficient amount" means. Freeciv copied all the names of things from Sid Meier's Civilization.
Of course, Meier's Civilization copied a number of basic concepts and names from the Avalon Hill Civilization board game, but the strategy details are all different. Freeciv has identical strategic details to Civ. I have seen players who are experts in Civ join a Freeciv game, having never played it before, and implement their usual Civ strategies with perfect results. — Lawrence King ( talk) 21:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added a notability tag to this article but hasn't explained his reasons for doing so. I just found this article but I can't seem to figure out why that tag was put there, since there seems to be plenty of third-party documentation of this game (one source I just added). What do you all think? If he (or someone else) doesn't explain his reasoning within the next few days, the tag should be removed. 71.231.87.53 ( talk) 16:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
The article currently still does not pass the the general notability guidelines, or suggest how else the game might be notable. As for the reference request, I have changed this to show that the article requires material sourced from reliable, independent sources. I can't really consider free-games-net to be a reliable source. Are there any reviews/articles/interviews from reliable magazines or website publications? Marasmusine ( talk) 17:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
"The graphics in Freeciv are in some respects less advanced than in Civilization II" I for one really doubt this, at least judging by screenshots. The source linked refers to some old version of freeciv(download-link is to 1.81 or something), and I dont believe that it is appliable to current versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.167.107.251 ( talk) 15:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I greatly enjoy the paragraph listing many of Freeciv's best-known players, but I'm afraid the personal details must be removed as a violation of privacy, and I'm not sure it has much encyclopedic value without them. Rp ( talk) 23:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
"and optionally hexagonal tiling (like in Civ V)"
This text is particularly funny considering Freeciv had hexagonal tiling years before Civilization V. It also had simultaneous play TCP/IP support years before Civilization. Does Civilization even have IPv6 support? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.13.100 ( talk) 22:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the website for the game does not show up in the Infobox, but when I went to put it in, there was already an entry for it in the description. I am thinking that the option is misnamed or something like that and I do not know this particular template well enough to fix it. Does somebody else want to fix it? Nutster ( talk) 12:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
{{
Infobox video game}}
template has no website
parameter, and it was anyway unsuited for
Freeciv: {{
Infobox software}}
works as it should. –
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wikia:freeciv:longturn
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14:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)Proposal to merge the Freeciv.net article into the Freeciv article received. Your comments are invited below. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 07:39, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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It doesn't appear the external link to the website is correct, when I clicked on it, my browser informed me the encryption ceritificate was wrong. Additionally, when I look up freeciv, the top result is a different website ending in the same .org suffix. JohnWarosa ( talk) 05:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
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I find learning freeciv somewhat difficult for a beginner. Should a section be there on how to start, and proceed with the game? -- Phoe6 20:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
If anyone knows the answer, I think it would be very valuable (and encyclopedic) if this page explained the copyright issues involved in Freeciv.
Currently this page simply says:
I think this sentence makes two claims that may be false, and certainly need some sort of justification to avoid being POV
"Inspired by"??? No, Freeciv is Civ. In fact, I would argue that Freeciv is closer to Civ 1 than Civ 2 is to Civ 1, and nobody says that Civ 2 is merely "inspired by" Civ 1.
Edit: I have changed it to say Civ 2. This is as Civ 1 uses a top down view and Civ2 and freeciv use isometric
I understand that some of you may be Freeciv players with a vested interest in Sid Meier not suing for money from Freeciv. But if such a lawsuit happened, any court in the world would rule that Freeciv was not merely "inspired by" Civ, but copied almost all of its details, usually quite literally.
"Released under the GNU GPL..." By what right? If Sid Meier owned the original copyright, then he would have had to relinquish these rights in order for Freeciv to be under copyleft.
What I am writing here is partially speculation (and that's why I haven't edited the main page). Can someone who knows the true story please clarify?
And one final nitpick. The opening sentence says that Freeciv is "for personal computers". As someone who spent three years in grad school playing Freeciv on the Unix machines in our math department, let me assure you that Freeciv is far more widely used than just on the PC market. This probably needs to be revised as well. — Lawrence King ( talk) 07:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Interesting. The government website you linked to says that a particlar part of a game "may be subject to copyright if it contains a sufficient amount of literary or pictorial expression." I'm now very curious what "sufficient amount" means. Freeciv copied all the names of things from Sid Meier's Civilization.
Of course, Meier's Civilization copied a number of basic concepts and names from the Avalon Hill Civilization board game, but the strategy details are all different. Freeciv has identical strategic details to Civ. I have seen players who are experts in Civ join a Freeciv game, having never played it before, and implement their usual Civ strategies with perfect results. — Lawrence King ( talk) 21:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added a notability tag to this article but hasn't explained his reasons for doing so. I just found this article but I can't seem to figure out why that tag was put there, since there seems to be plenty of third-party documentation of this game (one source I just added). What do you all think? If he (or someone else) doesn't explain his reasoning within the next few days, the tag should be removed. 71.231.87.53 ( talk) 16:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
The article currently still does not pass the the general notability guidelines, or suggest how else the game might be notable. As for the reference request, I have changed this to show that the article requires material sourced from reliable, independent sources. I can't really consider free-games-net to be a reliable source. Are there any reviews/articles/interviews from reliable magazines or website publications? Marasmusine ( talk) 17:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
"The graphics in Freeciv are in some respects less advanced than in Civilization II" I for one really doubt this, at least judging by screenshots. The source linked refers to some old version of freeciv(download-link is to 1.81 or something), and I dont believe that it is appliable to current versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.167.107.251 ( talk) 15:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I greatly enjoy the paragraph listing many of Freeciv's best-known players, but I'm afraid the personal details must be removed as a violation of privacy, and I'm not sure it has much encyclopedic value without them. Rp ( talk) 23:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
"and optionally hexagonal tiling (like in Civ V)"
This text is particularly funny considering Freeciv had hexagonal tiling years before Civilization V. It also had simultaneous play TCP/IP support years before Civilization. Does Civilization even have IPv6 support? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.13.100 ( talk) 22:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the website for the game does not show up in the Infobox, but when I went to put it in, there was already an entry for it in the description. I am thinking that the option is misnamed or something like that and I do not know this particular template well enough to fix it. Does somebody else want to fix it? Nutster ( talk) 12:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
{{
Infobox video game}}
template has no website
parameter, and it was anyway unsuited for
Freeciv: {{
Infobox software}}
works as it should. –
82.113.106.36 (
talk)
20:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
wikia:freeciv:longturn
]] (example) wikilinks to "official" freeciv wikia pages without an "external link" warning arrow. –
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14:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)Proposal to merge the Freeciv.net article into the Freeciv article received. Your comments are invited below. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 07:39, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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It doesn't appear the external link to the website is correct, when I clicked on it, my browser informed me the encryption ceritificate was wrong. Additionally, when I look up freeciv, the top result is a different website ending in the same .org suffix. JohnWarosa ( talk) 05:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)