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THIS ARTICLE IS VERY BIASED AND PRO FREE MIGRATION. SOMEONE FIX THIS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.39.52 ( talk) 04:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone could provide examples of open immigration. For example, if the US opened its borders to Mexico, to describe what would happen and how things would balance out. MShonle 06:08, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Re: above. What do you mean, balance out? I don't really understand how that would happen.
Anyway, are we sure that Canada offered a policy close to open immigration (for all Europeans) until the 20th century? I don't know either way, but it seems to me that, as a member of the British Empire, they would have restricted non-Anglo/Irish (perhaps French?) immigration at least until the late 19th century. I'm well aware that a lot of non-Anglo immigrants came to Canada as early as the 19th century - Ukranians and so forth - but I'm not certain that it's fair to say they had the same vastly open immigration policy for all of Europe that the US did. Anyone know for sure? Moncrief 06:20, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone object to renaming this "Freedom of Migration" or something along those lines. I was trying to google this to find essays on the subject, and using "Free immigration" found only critizism. "Freedom of Migration" gave me more hits. I'm not sure, but "Free immigration" seems like the term "Baby killers" in the abortion debate. Something only used by one side of the debate. [Not true at all
MShonle ] If anyone has the correct NPOV term, please pipe up...--
Zenyu 18:12, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
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While some communist states might have had the death penalty for illegal emigration, certainly not all of them did, and not for the entire cold war period.
RandomP 02:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
i'm going to be bold and remove unreferenced statements. if you want to re-insert them, please find references.
au revoir —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 03:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC).
i looked into one of the references and it doesn't support the statement it claims to: "Many libertarians, socialists, and anarchists advocate open immigration, notwithstanding other noteworthy differences among these three political ideologies" This sounds like the citation sill say that libertarians, sociologists, and anarchists advocate open immigration, but if you click on the link you'll see the piece is very critical of free immigration because of the effect it will have on workers. and it doesn't say anything about sociologists. could whoever inserted this citation please explain? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 16:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC).
This article is extremely biased. It's garbage. All it talks about is the economy, as if the only thing that should matter to humans is how much money they have... which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their happiness, culture, or quality of life -- besides sometimes having many negative effects on these things. I don't know how to fix the article without deleting the whole thing. Peoplesunionpro ( talk) 06:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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I removed the libertarianism sidebar since, according to the article, this position is advocated by more groups than just libertarians. "Notwithstanding noteworthy differences among these political ideologies, many libertarians, liberals, socialists, and anarchists advocate open immigration". Hence presenting only a single sidebar is not a neutral position. Kleuske ( talk) 13:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Again... WP:BRD. Please gain consensus, which you have not. A promise to write something is not a valid substitute for actual sources or talk-page consensus. I still strongly object to a) the Libertarianism sidebar and b) the attitude you display here. Kleuske ( talk) 13:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Free migration is not an intrinsically libertarian idea; its promotion by the EU and CIS make that obvious (let alone the nationalist libertarians who reject it). The argument for multiple sidebars is essentially falling back on other stuff exists, which is a weak argument. Those examples show that multiple sidebars don't contribute meaningfully to navigation, and clutter up articles.
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I know nothing about this but would love to read the history of both restricted and free migration Dakinijones ( talk) 16:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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THIS ARTICLE IS VERY BIASED AND PRO FREE MIGRATION. SOMEONE FIX THIS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.39.52 ( talk) 04:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone could provide examples of open immigration. For example, if the US opened its borders to Mexico, to describe what would happen and how things would balance out. MShonle 06:08, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Re: above. What do you mean, balance out? I don't really understand how that would happen.
Anyway, are we sure that Canada offered a policy close to open immigration (for all Europeans) until the 20th century? I don't know either way, but it seems to me that, as a member of the British Empire, they would have restricted non-Anglo/Irish (perhaps French?) immigration at least until the late 19th century. I'm well aware that a lot of non-Anglo immigrants came to Canada as early as the 19th century - Ukranians and so forth - but I'm not certain that it's fair to say they had the same vastly open immigration policy for all of Europe that the US did. Anyone know for sure? Moncrief 06:20, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone object to renaming this "Freedom of Migration" or something along those lines. I was trying to google this to find essays on the subject, and using "Free immigration" found only critizism. "Freedom of Migration" gave me more hits. I'm not sure, but "Free immigration" seems like the term "Baby killers" in the abortion debate. Something only used by one side of the debate. [Not true at all
MShonle ] If anyone has the correct NPOV term, please pipe up...--
Zenyu 18:12, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
I changed
to
While some communist states might have had the death penalty for illegal emigration, certainly not all of them did, and not for the entire cold war period.
RandomP 02:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
i'm going to be bold and remove unreferenced statements. if you want to re-insert them, please find references.
au revoir —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 03:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC).
i looked into one of the references and it doesn't support the statement it claims to: "Many libertarians, socialists, and anarchists advocate open immigration, notwithstanding other noteworthy differences among these three political ideologies" This sounds like the citation sill say that libertarians, sociologists, and anarchists advocate open immigration, but if you click on the link you'll see the piece is very critical of free immigration because of the effect it will have on workers. and it doesn't say anything about sociologists. could whoever inserted this citation please explain? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 16:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC).
This article is extremely biased. It's garbage. All it talks about is the economy, as if the only thing that should matter to humans is how much money they have... which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their happiness, culture, or quality of life -- besides sometimes having many negative effects on these things. I don't know how to fix the article without deleting the whole thing. Peoplesunionpro ( talk) 06:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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I removed the libertarianism sidebar since, according to the article, this position is advocated by more groups than just libertarians. "Notwithstanding noteworthy differences among these political ideologies, many libertarians, liberals, socialists, and anarchists advocate open immigration". Hence presenting only a single sidebar is not a neutral position. Kleuske ( talk) 13:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Again... WP:BRD. Please gain consensus, which you have not. A promise to write something is not a valid substitute for actual sources or talk-page consensus. I still strongly object to a) the Libertarianism sidebar and b) the attitude you display here. Kleuske ( talk) 13:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Free migration is not an intrinsically libertarian idea; its promotion by the EU and CIS make that obvious (let alone the nationalist libertarians who reject it). The argument for multiple sidebars is essentially falling back on other stuff exists, which is a weak argument. Those examples show that multiple sidebars don't contribute meaningfully to navigation, and clutter up articles.
Also, GL, you would do well to understand that Wikipedia does in fact act under a bureaucracy; it even has official WP:Bureaucrats. It's a flexible bureaucracy, but it operates more by rule of law than by force of will, and is inherently cooperative in nature. If you're going to do more than just try to promote your philosophy here, you'll need to get used to that. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 14:58, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
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I know nothing about this but would love to read the history of both restricted and free migration Dakinijones ( talk) 16:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)