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The enumeration "Frederick IV" is not unused, although I do not believe that Frederick himself used it. It seems to be most popular among art historians, for some reason. Cf. e.g. C. Warr and J. Elliott (2008), "Introduction: Reassessing Naples, 1266–1713", Art History, 31: 423–37.
Because if it wasn't complicated enough, I have sources calling him Frederick II of Naples. Bleh. Evidently, the "Fred IV" comes with counting the numbering of Aragonese Sicily (Trinacria) when they were separate from mainland Sicily (Naples), which I presume a good Spaniard might do (although legally incorrect, as 14th C. Trinacria Sicily was notionally subordinate to Neapolitan Sicily). The "Fred II" types only count kings which actually held Naples - that would mean the first Hohenstaufen and this one. The simple "Fred" I suppose relies on omitting Fred Hohenstaufen as he was pre-separation (i.e. held both Trinacria and Naples). So all three are plausible. Many of the sources that use only Fred usually write him in full as "Frederick of Aragon, King of Naples". But not sure if that's the ideal solution.
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A combination of King Louis XII of France and Frederick's famous cousin[2] King Ferdinand II of Aragon had continued the claim of Louis's predecessor, King Charles VIII of France, to Naples and Sicily.
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The enumeration "Frederick IV" is not unused, although I do not believe that Frederick himself used it. It seems to be most popular among art historians, for some reason. Cf. e.g. C. Warr and J. Elliott (2008), "Introduction: Reassessing Naples, 1266–1713", Art History, 31: 423–37.
Because if it wasn't complicated enough, I have sources calling him Frederick II of Naples. Bleh. Evidently, the "Fred IV" comes with counting the numbering of Aragonese Sicily (Trinacria) when they were separate from mainland Sicily (Naples), which I presume a good Spaniard might do (although legally incorrect, as 14th C. Trinacria Sicily was notionally subordinate to Neapolitan Sicily). The "Fred II" types only count kings which actually held Naples - that would mean the first Hohenstaufen and this one. The simple "Fred" I suppose relies on omitting Fred Hohenstaufen as he was pre-separation (i.e. held both Trinacria and Naples). So all three are plausible. Many of the sources that use only Fred usually write him in full as "Frederick of Aragon, King of Naples". But not sure if that's the ideal solution.
Walrasiad (
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07:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)reply
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Weird sentence
A combination of King Louis XII of France and Frederick's famous cousin[2] King Ferdinand II of Aragon had continued the claim of Louis's predecessor, King Charles VIII of France, to Naples and Sicily.