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Needs work, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's an idea Einstein, fix it yourself! You seem to have an issue with it like nobody else.
"Christopher Nolan, the director of Batman Begins, and its sequel The Dark Knight, has stated that he would cast Muniz as the role of Robin if he had to. However, Nolan has stated that as long as he is directing the franchise, Robin will not be cast."
This quote makes no sense to me. Andrew zot 22:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the article gives his birthplace as both Wood-Ridge and Ridgewood. Anyone? Cao Wei 02:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Frankie was actually born in Wood-Ridge... Michaela92399 02:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Is Frankie Muniz in the video "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears? There's a kid in it who looks exactly like him, but I'm not sure when this video was made? He may have been too young at the time. Davez621 18:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Frankie wasn't even BORN when the song(and accompanying video) came out...IN 1984!... Michaela92399 02:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Does he really use the tilde? It doesn't seem to show up in any of the shows or movies that I've seen. RickK 04:29, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
He does not have a middle name. There is no James. Has been removed. Source: http://www.frankie-muniz.info/multimedia/aollivedl.html
Then should the tildes and acute accents be removed from his name wherever they appear in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofa jazz man ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
IMDB have today reported that Muniz has given up acting in order to concentrate on a professional racing career in the Champ Car Atlantic Series. -- Delsource (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
He made a memorable in Arrested Development. I'll add it in here.
On the article, there is a section referring to Frankie Muniz recently having a heart attack. I cannot find any news sources mentioning Frankie Muniz post July 22nd, 2007, and surely this would have seen a mention in the new. It should be removed from the main page immediately unless a third-party source can be linked to right away. Allthemodrnthgs 20:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
It NEVER happened!...all those tabloids that are geared towards those Jonas Brothers fans are now assaulting Frankie's health in order to grab more sales from the newsstands!...I don't believe that even Harvey Levin's TMZ.com would stoop THAT low as to believe such nonsense!... Baldwin91006 17:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
did he actually get in an accident? can this be verafied? i've searched google, google news and foxnews and can't find anything. Orangefizzlebiz 04:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
No, he's STILL alive!... Baldwin91006 17:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Seems like someone's determined to retain "James" as Frankie's middle name, even though he NEVER had one!;please remove all references to a middle name from the page at once...thanks, Baldwin91006 17:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Nop matter how many timews all of us have deleted his middle naem saying he DOESN'T have one, there's an idiot who keeps putting it back in...please straighten it out once and for all:remove Frankie's middle name!... Baldwin91006 17:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
For the eighth time, there's a person who keeps insisting that he HAS a middle name and keeps restoring it...PLEASE STOP!... Baldwin91006 ( talk) 03:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
For the ninth TIME, please stop re-inserting a "middle name" in this article!...HE NEVER HAD ONE AT ALL!... Michaela92399 ( talk) 03:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
This article currently says born in 1997. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.184.137.243 ( talk) 15:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Does Anyone knows what is his religion ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.94.38.150 ( talk) 11:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Considering his ancestry [Irish/Italian and "Puerto Rican"] hes probably Catholic, but i have no sources to back it up.
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Does anyone know the proper link to the Titus-article? It now refers back to the roman emperor instead of a movie/show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin.lemstra ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have trouble believing he was born in 1985, and was 15 when Malcolm in the Middle began to air, he is supposed to be around 12 or 11 at the beggining of the show, looks like he's about 9 in my opinion and was supposedly 15... Also, in My dog Skip, (form 2000 as well as Malcolm in the middle), he looks like he's age 8, when acording to when he was born, he was really 15.
Either he has some sort of Age retardation where he looks 10 years younger than he really is, someone messed with the article, or The movies and films he was in where filmed 4 years before they debuted. There is no source for this birthdate, and I don't believe it one bit. Alten hofen 05:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
ummmmm,are you sure he is 23? Because that would make him 15 when he played in My Dog Skip. 173.55.170.16 ( talk) 23:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
As I recall he did a video for the playstation underground demo discs for E3. I don't remember much of it but if anyone could edit it in to the article in an orderly manner then that would be great.-- 166.164.78.94 ( talk) 21:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Found it on a youtube reference about the year 2000 E3, put it, it's now in the filmography, wasn't sure were to reference for that, sorry anyway here's the reference, here's the link
So let me start by saying that I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask this question, and if it's not, I apologize for the mistake. I and several others before me added that he's now a drummer for a band called You Hang Up and it was removed because the band is non-notable, which is true. My question is does notability refer to the subject of the article or to everything in the article? It just would seem that because he's a notable person, that his career change to a drummer is by extension notable, whether the band he's currently drumming for is notable or not. I'd just like some clarification. Again, sorry if this isn't the right place for that. Willcrys 84 ( talk) 03:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or a lot of lines are disrespecting him ? I'm referring to his racing career, in particular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.104.108.6 ( talk) 07:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
How do we report spammers? People are defiling this page with false info/profanity. The IP 74.5.31.218 seems to be part of it. 99.52.103.169 ( talk) 05:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Changed quote from reference #2, previously read "one of Hollywood's most bangable teens." Correct reference is "one of Hollywood's most bankable teens." — Preceding unsigned comment added by S&J Wstch ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
The third paragraph under the "Career" section states, "In 2003, he made a cameo appearance as Cher's underage boyfriend in Stuck on You." The Filmography chart, however, says his role was "Cher Son". Can someone please verify or disprove his cameo appearance/role in this film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inheritor10 ( talk • contribs) 19:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The article says that his ancestors come from the region of Asturias, Spain and cites as a reference an Answers webpage that uses this same wikipedia page as primary source of information.
I think it should be deleted or changed, but I have not find any reference online that does not use WikiPedia as the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.96.49 ( talk) 09:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I think that referring to a transient ischemic attack as a "mini-stroke" is too cutesy. Just leave the TIA linked; if a reader is interested in looking up what it means, they can do so. Otherwise, it sounds like a kid's news item from the Weekly Reader >_< .
More to the point, mention a cause of the TIA. (Though frequently a direct cause isn't found, it could be due to a condition like atrial fibrillation.) Has he had any more, were there any long-term effects from the episode, does he now take medication to prevent more TIAs, does the condition interfere with race car driving, that kind of thing. Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 06:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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There have been repeated attempts to add an unsourced middle name to the article. Per Muniz, he does not have a middle name. Schazjmd (talk) 16:13, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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117.20.68.68 please do not add ...and stock car racing driver.
to the opening sentence. This does not comply with the policy which states that The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources.
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@ Tollens: would you like to elaborate on why we should go against MOS:ROLEBIO, or can you show that there is as much WP:WEIGHT in reliable sources to refer to this subject as a racing driver as there is for his (well-established) acting career? ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Would it be fine if I added "professional racing driver" to his biography? Thermicknight7 ( talk) 08:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
i am confused about the demand to eliminate the inclusion of "race car driver" from the lead sentence. when we follow the sources, the VAST majority of modern coverage of Muniz include the race car driving.
i scrolled through hundreds of search results for Muniz from Google news and the article below is the only one of those many results in coverage from the past year that do NOT include "race car driver" in their descriptions, most have it as part of the headline.
https://www.cbr.com/bryan-cranston-debunks-malcolm-in-the-middle-revival-claim/ 67.220.13.96 ( talk) 14:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I think it's finally time to add "stock car racing driver" to the heading, as he is gonna drive in the Xfinity Series. There are no more excuses to remove it if it is edited into the article. Permission? FoxX 07 ( talk) 00:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm getting tired of other editors telling me to get consensus on the talk page when literally nobody is talking on said talk page. The reasons of why we can't add an additional six words are actually unreasonable and flat out stupid. The majority of sources on Frankie Muniz state SEVERAL times that he is a "racecar driver", and not to mention that Muniz himself can also be counted as a source. There's no reason to keep removing the additional terminology from the first sentence. You might as well start USING THE TALK PAGE if you have a problem with it. FoxX 07 ( talk) 01:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
"However, avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various and sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-noteworthy roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph.[b]". ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 02:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
"it's not incidental"to his notability are an assumption that still doesn't meet WP:CRYSTAL. His notability as an actor is how he's able to raise the funds needed to be a racing driver. I remain unconvinced that in 20 years, reliable sources that aren't subject specific will be writing about "Frankie Muniz the racing driver" with nearly the WEIGHT as they would about "Frankie Muniz the actor", to the extent that a mention in the opening sentence is warranted. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
"The "Malcolm in the Middle" star is taking the next step in his racing career, joining NASCAR's second-tier Xfinity Series this season"(bolding mine). CBS Sports and Sporting News are both subject-specific websites, and even then, they both prominently state that Muniz is the "'Malcolm in the Middle' star".
The intro talks more about that than his acting career. — theMainLogan ( t• c) 15:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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Needs work, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's an idea Einstein, fix it yourself! You seem to have an issue with it like nobody else.
"Christopher Nolan, the director of Batman Begins, and its sequel The Dark Knight, has stated that he would cast Muniz as the role of Robin if he had to. However, Nolan has stated that as long as he is directing the franchise, Robin will not be cast."
This quote makes no sense to me. Andrew zot 22:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the article gives his birthplace as both Wood-Ridge and Ridgewood. Anyone? Cao Wei 02:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Frankie was actually born in Wood-Ridge... Michaela92399 02:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Is Frankie Muniz in the video "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears? There's a kid in it who looks exactly like him, but I'm not sure when this video was made? He may have been too young at the time. Davez621 18:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Frankie wasn't even BORN when the song(and accompanying video) came out...IN 1984!... Michaela92399 02:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Does he really use the tilde? It doesn't seem to show up in any of the shows or movies that I've seen. RickK 04:29, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
He does not have a middle name. There is no James. Has been removed. Source: http://www.frankie-muniz.info/multimedia/aollivedl.html
Then should the tildes and acute accents be removed from his name wherever they appear in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofa jazz man ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
IMDB have today reported that Muniz has given up acting in order to concentrate on a professional racing career in the Champ Car Atlantic Series. -- Delsource (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
He made a memorable in Arrested Development. I'll add it in here.
On the article, there is a section referring to Frankie Muniz recently having a heart attack. I cannot find any news sources mentioning Frankie Muniz post July 22nd, 2007, and surely this would have seen a mention in the new. It should be removed from the main page immediately unless a third-party source can be linked to right away. Allthemodrnthgs 20:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
It NEVER happened!...all those tabloids that are geared towards those Jonas Brothers fans are now assaulting Frankie's health in order to grab more sales from the newsstands!...I don't believe that even Harvey Levin's TMZ.com would stoop THAT low as to believe such nonsense!... Baldwin91006 17:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
did he actually get in an accident? can this be verafied? i've searched google, google news and foxnews and can't find anything. Orangefizzlebiz 04:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
No, he's STILL alive!... Baldwin91006 17:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Seems like someone's determined to retain "James" as Frankie's middle name, even though he NEVER had one!;please remove all references to a middle name from the page at once...thanks, Baldwin91006 17:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Nop matter how many timews all of us have deleted his middle naem saying he DOESN'T have one, there's an idiot who keeps putting it back in...please straighten it out once and for all:remove Frankie's middle name!... Baldwin91006 17:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
For the eighth time, there's a person who keeps insisting that he HAS a middle name and keeps restoring it...PLEASE STOP!... Baldwin91006 ( talk) 03:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
For the ninth TIME, please stop re-inserting a "middle name" in this article!...HE NEVER HAD ONE AT ALL!... Michaela92399 ( talk) 03:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
This article currently says born in 1997. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.184.137.243 ( talk) 15:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Does Anyone knows what is his religion ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.94.38.150 ( talk) 11:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Considering his ancestry [Irish/Italian and "Puerto Rican"] hes probably Catholic, but i have no sources to back it up.
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
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Does anyone know the proper link to the Titus-article? It now refers back to the roman emperor instead of a movie/show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin.lemstra ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have trouble believing he was born in 1985, and was 15 when Malcolm in the Middle began to air, he is supposed to be around 12 or 11 at the beggining of the show, looks like he's about 9 in my opinion and was supposedly 15... Also, in My dog Skip, (form 2000 as well as Malcolm in the middle), he looks like he's age 8, when acording to when he was born, he was really 15.
Either he has some sort of Age retardation where he looks 10 years younger than he really is, someone messed with the article, or The movies and films he was in where filmed 4 years before they debuted. There is no source for this birthdate, and I don't believe it one bit. Alten hofen 05:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
ummmmm,are you sure he is 23? Because that would make him 15 when he played in My Dog Skip. 173.55.170.16 ( talk) 23:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
As I recall he did a video for the playstation underground demo discs for E3. I don't remember much of it but if anyone could edit it in to the article in an orderly manner then that would be great.-- 166.164.78.94 ( talk) 21:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Found it on a youtube reference about the year 2000 E3, put it, it's now in the filmography, wasn't sure were to reference for that, sorry anyway here's the reference, here's the link
So let me start by saying that I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask this question, and if it's not, I apologize for the mistake. I and several others before me added that he's now a drummer for a band called You Hang Up and it was removed because the band is non-notable, which is true. My question is does notability refer to the subject of the article or to everything in the article? It just would seem that because he's a notable person, that his career change to a drummer is by extension notable, whether the band he's currently drumming for is notable or not. I'd just like some clarification. Again, sorry if this isn't the right place for that. Willcrys 84 ( talk) 03:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or a lot of lines are disrespecting him ? I'm referring to his racing career, in particular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.104.108.6 ( talk) 07:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
How do we report spammers? People are defiling this page with false info/profanity. The IP 74.5.31.218 seems to be part of it. 99.52.103.169 ( talk) 05:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Changed quote from reference #2, previously read "one of Hollywood's most bangable teens." Correct reference is "one of Hollywood's most bankable teens." — Preceding unsigned comment added by S&J Wstch ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
The third paragraph under the "Career" section states, "In 2003, he made a cameo appearance as Cher's underage boyfriend in Stuck on You." The Filmography chart, however, says his role was "Cher Son". Can someone please verify or disprove his cameo appearance/role in this film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inheritor10 ( talk • contribs) 19:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The article says that his ancestors come from the region of Asturias, Spain and cites as a reference an Answers webpage that uses this same wikipedia page as primary source of information.
I think it should be deleted or changed, but I have not find any reference online that does not use WikiPedia as the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.96.49 ( talk) 09:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I think that referring to a transient ischemic attack as a "mini-stroke" is too cutesy. Just leave the TIA linked; if a reader is interested in looking up what it means, they can do so. Otherwise, it sounds like a kid's news item from the Weekly Reader >_< .
More to the point, mention a cause of the TIA. (Though frequently a direct cause isn't found, it could be due to a condition like atrial fibrillation.) Has he had any more, were there any long-term effects from the episode, does he now take medication to prevent more TIAs, does the condition interfere with race car driving, that kind of thing. Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 06:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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There have been repeated attempts to add an unsourced middle name to the article. Per Muniz, he does not have a middle name. Schazjmd (talk) 16:13, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Willform and
117.20.68.68 please do not add ...and stock car racing driver.
to the opening sentence. This does not comply with the policy which states that The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources.
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@ Tollens: would you like to elaborate on why we should go against MOS:ROLEBIO, or can you show that there is as much WP:WEIGHT in reliable sources to refer to this subject as a racing driver as there is for his (well-established) acting career? ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Would it be fine if I added "professional racing driver" to his biography? Thermicknight7 ( talk) 08:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
i am confused about the demand to eliminate the inclusion of "race car driver" from the lead sentence. when we follow the sources, the VAST majority of modern coverage of Muniz include the race car driving.
i scrolled through hundreds of search results for Muniz from Google news and the article below is the only one of those many results in coverage from the past year that do NOT include "race car driver" in their descriptions, most have it as part of the headline.
https://www.cbr.com/bryan-cranston-debunks-malcolm-in-the-middle-revival-claim/ 67.220.13.96 ( talk) 14:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I think it's finally time to add "stock car racing driver" to the heading, as he is gonna drive in the Xfinity Series. There are no more excuses to remove it if it is edited into the article. Permission? FoxX 07 ( talk) 00:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm getting tired of other editors telling me to get consensus on the talk page when literally nobody is talking on said talk page. The reasons of why we can't add an additional six words are actually unreasonable and flat out stupid. The majority of sources on Frankie Muniz state SEVERAL times that he is a "racecar driver", and not to mention that Muniz himself can also be counted as a source. There's no reason to keep removing the additional terminology from the first sentence. You might as well start USING THE TALK PAGE if you have a problem with it. FoxX 07 ( talk) 01:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
"However, avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various and sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-noteworthy roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph.[b]". ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 02:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
"it's not incidental"to his notability are an assumption that still doesn't meet WP:CRYSTAL. His notability as an actor is how he's able to raise the funds needed to be a racing driver. I remain unconvinced that in 20 years, reliable sources that aren't subject specific will be writing about "Frankie Muniz the racing driver" with nearly the WEIGHT as they would about "Frankie Muniz the actor", to the extent that a mention in the opening sentence is warranted. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
"The "Malcolm in the Middle" star is taking the next step in his racing career, joining NASCAR's second-tier Xfinity Series this season"(bolding mine). CBS Sports and Sporting News are both subject-specific websites, and even then, they both prominently state that Muniz is the "'Malcolm in the Middle' star".
The intro talks more about that than his acting career. — theMainLogan ( t• c) 15:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)