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The article rather implies that Field's late night chat with Mrs Thatcher was crucial to her deciding to relinquish the Premiership and support John Major. Is there any evidence to support this? Field is a great admirer of Thatcher it is true (despite the damage he feels her policies did to his constituency) but I doubt if she has the same opinon of him. Her resignation was largely triggered by pressure within the Conservative high ranks and, as she would not support Heseltine who had challenged her, or Hurd who was an example of the old-school Tory liberal Grandee she couldn't stand, then ex-grammar school boy Major would get the nod
Richard Slack
"Born in London with a violent father..."
Is this true?
Even if so, what does it have to do with anything?
WikiReaderer 16:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The publications list to me is ridiculously large, especially for an article of this size. Anyone object if I delete it, adding a comment in the body that he is a prolific writer? Rwendland ( talk) 09:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a native English speaker but can someone change the following sentence. There are a lot of spelling mistakes in at and maybe it has to be checked.
"In 2008 he appeared in an episode of the white season on BBC 2 about the rivers of blood speech stating that a lot of people are migrating from the united kingdom and the main reason is because the don't like what has happened to the uk." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.17.52 ( talk) 22:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved The Duke of Nonsense What is necessary for thee?. 10:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Frank Field (British politician) → Frank Field – Only the British MP and the meteorologist seem to have any major notability today, but the former gets three times as many hits. They've both been around for a very long time, so recentism isn't a factor here. [1] Unreal7 ( talk) 12:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Note that the constituency vote, which took place on Friday 27 July, "... does not carry any official force, but constituency party members could seek a trigger ballot that would have the potential to deselect Field.": [2]. Currently Field is still the legally elected representative for Birkenhead. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 17:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
It was on the news this morning (Friday August 31 2018) that Frank Field has been wondering whether to step down as an M.P., and thus trigger a by-election. This means that this article needs to be watched carefully to be updated. Vorbee ( talk) 07:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
There have been a few different iterations of Field's party field in the infobox since the announcement of his resigning the Labour whip. So far we've had:
Given the number of ways the same information has been expressed, I thought it'd be worth establishing a consensus here.
Some of these (1, 2, 4) don't include that Field is still a Labour member. Some (2, 4, 5, 9, 10) describe him as an independent, while others (3, 7, 8) describe him as "Independent Labour", which is how Field identifies himself, and one (6) describes him as "Independent (Independent Labour)". Some use the precise date that Field resigned the whip, and some include more text.
The purpose of an infobox, per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE is to summarise the article's material, and should include minimal information. I don't think "sits in the House of Commons" is worth including, or the precise date. My preference is for the configuration in (7), though I can see that there's a good case to both "Independent" and "Independent Labour". Interested to hear other editors' views! Ralbegen ( talk) 10:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I've added Template:Current person for Field's resignation of the Labour Party whip. -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 11:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
The Birkenhead Social Justice Party is not currently listed as a party with any seats on the official House of Commons website [13], nor can I find its registration details on the Electoral Commission website. Fields' statements [14] seem to suggest this is a label under which he will contest the next general election, and don't imply that he has immediately become a BSJ MP. I will edit to this effect. -- LukeSurl t c 12:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
He's just announced that he's terminally ill, presumably with cancer: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/oct/22/uk-covid-live-booster-jabs-cases-data-jcvi-latest-updates
I won't modify the article until more info emerges. -- Ef80 ( talk) 11:02, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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The article rather implies that Field's late night chat with Mrs Thatcher was crucial to her deciding to relinquish the Premiership and support John Major. Is there any evidence to support this? Field is a great admirer of Thatcher it is true (despite the damage he feels her policies did to his constituency) but I doubt if she has the same opinon of him. Her resignation was largely triggered by pressure within the Conservative high ranks and, as she would not support Heseltine who had challenged her, or Hurd who was an example of the old-school Tory liberal Grandee she couldn't stand, then ex-grammar school boy Major would get the nod
Richard Slack
"Born in London with a violent father..."
Is this true?
Even if so, what does it have to do with anything?
WikiReaderer 16:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The publications list to me is ridiculously large, especially for an article of this size. Anyone object if I delete it, adding a comment in the body that he is a prolific writer? Rwendland ( talk) 09:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a native English speaker but can someone change the following sentence. There are a lot of spelling mistakes in at and maybe it has to be checked.
"In 2008 he appeared in an episode of the white season on BBC 2 about the rivers of blood speech stating that a lot of people are migrating from the united kingdom and the main reason is because the don't like what has happened to the uk." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.17.52 ( talk) 22:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved The Duke of Nonsense What is necessary for thee?. 10:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Frank Field (British politician) → Frank Field – Only the British MP and the meteorologist seem to have any major notability today, but the former gets three times as many hits. They've both been around for a very long time, so recentism isn't a factor here. [1] Unreal7 ( talk) 12:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Note that the constituency vote, which took place on Friday 27 July, "... does not carry any official force, but constituency party members could seek a trigger ballot that would have the potential to deselect Field.": [2]. Currently Field is still the legally elected representative for Birkenhead. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 17:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
It was on the news this morning (Friday August 31 2018) that Frank Field has been wondering whether to step down as an M.P., and thus trigger a by-election. This means that this article needs to be watched carefully to be updated. Vorbee ( talk) 07:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
There have been a few different iterations of Field's party field in the infobox since the announcement of his resigning the Labour whip. So far we've had:
Given the number of ways the same information has been expressed, I thought it'd be worth establishing a consensus here.
Some of these (1, 2, 4) don't include that Field is still a Labour member. Some (2, 4, 5, 9, 10) describe him as an independent, while others (3, 7, 8) describe him as "Independent Labour", which is how Field identifies himself, and one (6) describes him as "Independent (Independent Labour)". Some use the precise date that Field resigned the whip, and some include more text.
The purpose of an infobox, per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE is to summarise the article's material, and should include minimal information. I don't think "sits in the House of Commons" is worth including, or the precise date. My preference is for the configuration in (7), though I can see that there's a good case to both "Independent" and "Independent Labour". Interested to hear other editors' views! Ralbegen ( talk) 10:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I've added Template:Current person for Field's resignation of the Labour Party whip. -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 11:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
The Birkenhead Social Justice Party is not currently listed as a party with any seats on the official House of Commons website [13], nor can I find its registration details on the Electoral Commission website. Fields' statements [14] seem to suggest this is a label under which he will contest the next general election, and don't imply that he has immediately become a BSJ MP. I will edit to this effect. -- LukeSurl t c 12:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
He's just announced that he's terminally ill, presumably with cancer: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/oct/22/uk-covid-live-booster-jabs-cases-data-jcvi-latest-updates
I won't modify the article until more info emerges. -- Ef80 ( talk) 11:02, 22 October 2021 (UTC)