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I've given the article a proper scrub and general expansion. It will probably need copy-editing I suspect. Hchc2009 ( talk) 09:50, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
What do the sources say about the fine of £666? A. F. Wareham, who wrote the ODNB article, says
Earl Hugh was charged £1000 by Henry II in 1165, presumably for licence to build at Bungay: 500 marks were paid in the first year, followed by smaller instalments for the next third over the following two years. In 1168–9, however, the barons of the exchequer ordered that he was not to be summoned for the remaining 500 marks unless the king demanded it, effectively exempting Bigod from further payment.
In "The Motives and Politics of the Bigod Family" in Anglo-Norman Studies XVII the same author states:
Between 1165 and 1168 the Crown spent £1,000 on the construction of Orford castle, and in the same three years the Earl [Hugh Bigod] paid £666 to the Exchequer as part of a fine which had been levied in 1165 [the article sadly gives no more details on the reason for the fine]. In 1168 work on Orford was curtailed and in the same year Bigod was freed from paying the remaining £334.
I'm not completely sold on Bigod paying £1,000 for the right to build a castle so was wondering what the other sources say. Nev1 ( talk) 02:08, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
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@ Hchc2009: Hi, I saw you reverted my edit explaining that the song is mentioned in Ed Sheeran's 2017 single Castle on the Hill and seen in the music video. I understand that this may not have been relevant to the history of the castle, however if it was entered under a 'In popular culture' or 'Use in popular culture' section, would this be acceptable? I understand if you believe it has no place in this article. Thank you ThomDevexx ॐ ( talk) 07:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I am conflicted (as Bursar of Pembroke) but the information concerning ownership is incorrect. English Heritage is responsible for Framlingham Castle under the terms of a deed of Guardianship signed 19/12/1913 , but the College retains ownership. The Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission for England is responsible for the management of the land on behalf of the Secretary of State under Section 34 of the National Heritage Act 1983 and the English Heritage Trust is responsible for the management of the building for the Commission. I am happy providing documents to support this in whatever format you like; and have a recent letter from English Heritage confirming their understanding of this (which is more readable than the deed of Guardianship) but I cannot put them online for copyright reasons. -- BozMo talk 07:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with this BozMol! Hchc2009 ( talk) 18:39, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
-- BozMo talk 14:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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I've given the article a proper scrub and general expansion. It will probably need copy-editing I suspect. Hchc2009 ( talk) 09:50, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
What do the sources say about the fine of £666? A. F. Wareham, who wrote the ODNB article, says
Earl Hugh was charged £1000 by Henry II in 1165, presumably for licence to build at Bungay: 500 marks were paid in the first year, followed by smaller instalments for the next third over the following two years. In 1168–9, however, the barons of the exchequer ordered that he was not to be summoned for the remaining 500 marks unless the king demanded it, effectively exempting Bigod from further payment.
In "The Motives and Politics of the Bigod Family" in Anglo-Norman Studies XVII the same author states:
Between 1165 and 1168 the Crown spent £1,000 on the construction of Orford castle, and in the same three years the Earl [Hugh Bigod] paid £666 to the Exchequer as part of a fine which had been levied in 1165 [the article sadly gives no more details on the reason for the fine]. In 1168 work on Orford was curtailed and in the same year Bigod was freed from paying the remaining £334.
I'm not completely sold on Bigod paying £1,000 for the right to build a castle so was wondering what the other sources say. Nev1 ( talk) 02:08, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
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@ Hchc2009: Hi, I saw you reverted my edit explaining that the song is mentioned in Ed Sheeran's 2017 single Castle on the Hill and seen in the music video. I understand that this may not have been relevant to the history of the castle, however if it was entered under a 'In popular culture' or 'Use in popular culture' section, would this be acceptable? I understand if you believe it has no place in this article. Thank you ThomDevexx ॐ ( talk) 07:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I am conflicted (as Bursar of Pembroke) but the information concerning ownership is incorrect. English Heritage is responsible for Framlingham Castle under the terms of a deed of Guardianship signed 19/12/1913 , but the College retains ownership. The Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission for England is responsible for the management of the land on behalf of the Secretary of State under Section 34 of the National Heritage Act 1983 and the English Heritage Trust is responsible for the management of the building for the Commission. I am happy providing documents to support this in whatever format you like; and have a recent letter from English Heritage confirming their understanding of this (which is more readable than the deed of Guardianship) but I cannot put them online for copyright reasons. -- BozMo talk 07:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with this BozMol! Hchc2009 ( talk) 18:39, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
-- BozMo talk 14:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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