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There really ought to be an article on the "data frame" data structure that is becoming common in scientific/statistical computing. R has had the concept since forever, but now that it's spreading into Python (via Pandas) and Julia (via DataFrames.jl) I think its time it had its own page. Anyone opposed to a disambiguation page instead of a redirect, as a placeholder until I or someone else writes an article on the other kind of data frame?
8.37.179.150 ( talk) 15:51, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
...data frames (similar to tables in a relational database)...~ Kvng ( talk) 22:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
After reading this article I am really confused. I simply dont know what a frame is.
I believe this article needs a total makeover, untill then stick to the article [packet].
Velle 10:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
It's not a reliable source, but this post offers a reasonably convincing explanation. It suggests that the term "frame" derives from framing bits used to demarcate a time slot during which a set of bits are sent. (it goes further, suggesting that a "frame" isn't really a frame once it's been statically captured, but instead "frame" only refers to a specific "time frame" during which a set of bits are sent). I won't add that in the article, since IANACCNA, and the article is already sorely lacking references for what's currently there.
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Dc sharp (
talk) 19:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Agree- specifically with respect to mixing "frame" and "packet" --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_data_unit says that an OSI Layer 2 PDU is a "frame" and a Layer 3 PDU is a "packet". But then when you follow the link to this "frame" page, it says that a frame *is* a packet. Either this page needs to not equate packet and frame, or the PDU page needs to be updated.
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The OSI model is not the end-all be-all definition of network architecture. Please consider the
TCP/IP model as well. The current version of the
network packet article is entrenched in OSI terminology, but needs to be revised to include TCP/IP definitions as well.
Stephen Charles Thompson (
talk) 19:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
We have at least four distinct articles covering the same basic topic:
While I appreciate that there may be technical differences between the different terms, I don't think we do readers a good service by having multiple articles on the same general topic. I don't feel so bold as to perform or formally propose a merge but I would like to discuss what we can do to improve WP coverage in this area. -- Kvng ( talk) 17:39, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
This page was renamed from "Frame (telecommunications)" to "Frame (networking)" because "Article currently only references frames in networking, not in any other form of telecom.", but, at the time it was renamed, the third paragraph said:
which sounds as if it's discussing frames in "other forms of telecom". Is that not the case? If it is the case, should the third paragraph be moved to "Frame (telecommunications)", and, perhaps, see also hatnotes added to this page and "Frame (telecommunications)", to point people to the other page (i.e., splitting this page into a page for the two types of framing)? Guy Harris ( talk) 19:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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There really ought to be an article on the "data frame" data structure that is becoming common in scientific/statistical computing. R has had the concept since forever, but now that it's spreading into Python (via Pandas) and Julia (via DataFrames.jl) I think its time it had its own page. Anyone opposed to a disambiguation page instead of a redirect, as a placeholder until I or someone else writes an article on the other kind of data frame?
8.37.179.150 ( talk) 15:51, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
...data frames (similar to tables in a relational database)...~ Kvng ( talk) 22:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
After reading this article I am really confused. I simply dont know what a frame is.
I believe this article needs a total makeover, untill then stick to the article [packet].
Velle 10:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
It's not a reliable source, but this post offers a reasonably convincing explanation. It suggests that the term "frame" derives from framing bits used to demarcate a time slot during which a set of bits are sent. (it goes further, suggesting that a "frame" isn't really a frame once it's been statically captured, but instead "frame" only refers to a specific "time frame" during which a set of bits are sent). I won't add that in the article, since IANACCNA, and the article is already sorely lacking references for what's currently there.
--
Dc sharp (
talk) 19:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Agree- specifically with respect to mixing "frame" and "packet" --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_data_unit says that an OSI Layer 2 PDU is a "frame" and a Layer 3 PDU is a "packet". But then when you follow the link to this "frame" page, it says that a frame *is* a packet. Either this page needs to not equate packet and frame, or the PDU page needs to be updated.
--
The OSI model is not the end-all be-all definition of network architecture. Please consider the
TCP/IP model as well. The current version of the
network packet article is entrenched in OSI terminology, but needs to be revised to include TCP/IP definitions as well.
Stephen Charles Thompson (
talk) 19:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
We have at least four distinct articles covering the same basic topic:
While I appreciate that there may be technical differences between the different terms, I don't think we do readers a good service by having multiple articles on the same general topic. I don't feel so bold as to perform or formally propose a merge but I would like to discuss what we can do to improve WP coverage in this area. -- Kvng ( talk) 17:39, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
This page was renamed from "Frame (telecommunications)" to "Frame (networking)" because "Article currently only references frames in networking, not in any other form of telecom.", but, at the time it was renamed, the third paragraph said:
which sounds as if it's discussing frames in "other forms of telecom". Is that not the case? If it is the case, should the third paragraph be moved to "Frame (telecommunications)", and, perhaps, see also hatnotes added to this page and "Frame (telecommunications)", to point people to the other page (i.e., splitting this page into a page for the two types of framing)? Guy Harris ( talk) 19:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)