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Dylan Cuthbert issued a tweetstated that they're not prosthetic legs. I'll find the tweet when I get to a computer where Twitter isn't blocked...
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Dylan Cuthbert didn't design any of the Star Fox characters: Takaya Imamura did: if anyone was going to debunk any theories it would be Imamura. Also, in the very video you provided, Miyamoto doesn't say anything at all denying or confirming that the legs were amputated. The fact that their legs were amputated also doesn't need any exposition beyond what is plainly visible, across all of the official media, and even in-game. The only source showing Fox or any of the other characters to have organic feet is fanart], so their legs are prosthetic. 2606:A000:1500:4095:BC1B:DEA1:6466:E9F1 ( talk) 20:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
It seems like no reliable source has ever picked this story up. Therefore, it's not really worth covering either way. Whether this fictional character has his legs amputated or not is apparently not "notable" enough for reliable sources to dig into it. ~ Mable ( chat) 10:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Ridiculous fan theory based on old game assets, with no reliable secondary coverage or even primary statements that it is the case. -- ferret ( talk) 12:14, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
@ Idazmi:@ Soetermans:@ Maplestrip:@ Ferret:@ Sergecross73:@ Martin IIIa:@ Icewhiz: Somebody did end up finding a Game Informer article which talks about it. The writer (Ben Reeves, a Game Informer employee) did believe in the robotic legs "theory", but he stated "Nintendo has never commented on this fact". (and as User:Masem said, we now have statements from Cuthbert and Miyamoto saying it's not true) - Masem believes that now we can comment on the fan theory but not state it as truth. IMO it would be nice to find additional RSes that talk about it. It would also be nice to contact Reeves and show him Cuthbert's and Miyamoto's statements to see if he will update the article. WhisperToMe ( talk) 18:06, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WhisperToMe:@ Soetermans:@ Maplestrip:@ Ferret:@ Sergecross73:@ Martin IIIa:@ Icewhiz: Shigeru Miyamoto has never stated that the Star Fox characters legs were not mechanical in any context, including the JWittz interview you linked. In fact, at 8:26 in that video, Miyamoto's translator directly states that it was an artistic choice he deliberately made to explain why Fox has humanoid legs instead of the legs of a fox, directly implying that he is a cyborg in the style of Rocket Raccoon. Also, while Dylan Cuthbert was the programmer of Star Fox under Argonaut Software, he was not the character design artist, nor did he create the scenario. Cuthbert is also not directly affiliated with nor employed under Nintendo. Idazmi ( talk) 07:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Quentin Miller seems to be embracing that idea with the name of his latest mixtape Falco. Falco is a character from the video game series Star Fox. Falco is the wingman to Fox McCloud and Falco just happens to have metal legs. Just like Falco, Quentin Miller is ready to takeoff and shoot for the stars.. Icewhiz ( talk) 09:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Proposed sentence: "There is a fan theory stating that Fox McCloud, along with other Star Fox members, had his legs amputated and replaced with metal prostheses,(Game Informer source) and this is referenced in a song by rapper Quentin Miller; Cuthbert stated that the characters' legs were not amputated, and Miyamoto stated that the appearance of metal legs was a design choice rather than an indication that the legs were amputated." WhisperToMe ( talk) 04:40, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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I propose to add this page to the category Animal superheroes.
Although McCloud is not a superhero in the typical sense, I observe that characters such as Crash Bandicoot, Sonic and Spyro are also listed there, to whom the same could be argued to apply, and therefore think that it would be sensible to include Fox McCloud on said list.
If there are additional pages for the rest of the Star Fox team, they could also be added to the category, as several other franchises referenced by this category also have multiple characters listed, such as those from the Captain Carrot comics. 2A02:C7D:16D0:4F00:9986:D999:81D9:26A6 ( talk) 21:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
The lead section of the article describes Fox as the chief protagonist of the Star Fox saga, which I find redundant. I mean, he is already the protagonist, what makes him chief among others? Last time I checked, Star Fox doesn't have multiple and rotating protagonists or an ensemble cast. Yes, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox Command have multiple playable characters but that doesn't mean that Fox is no longer the sole protagonist of the saga. Am I missing something? Leader Vladimir ( talk) 16:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I think Fox qualifies as high-importance with regards to WP:VG, he was listed in the "Greatest Gaming Icons" magazine and is extremely well-known, if not for Star Fox than for his heavy popularity in Smash. However, since he is listed as one of the mid-tier examples Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment, I thought that I would ask for agreement on this. If people agree, I can change his name to someone else on the table. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 19:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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Dylan Cuthbert issued a tweetstated that they're not prosthetic legs. I'll find the tweet when I get to a computer where Twitter isn't blocked...
WhisperToMe (
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02:47, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Dylan Cuthbert didn't design any of the Star Fox characters: Takaya Imamura did: if anyone was going to debunk any theories it would be Imamura. Also, in the very video you provided, Miyamoto doesn't say anything at all denying or confirming that the legs were amputated. The fact that their legs were amputated also doesn't need any exposition beyond what is plainly visible, across all of the official media, and even in-game. The only source showing Fox or any of the other characters to have organic feet is fanart], so their legs are prosthetic. 2606:A000:1500:4095:BC1B:DEA1:6466:E9F1 ( talk) 20:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
It seems like no reliable source has ever picked this story up. Therefore, it's not really worth covering either way. Whether this fictional character has his legs amputated or not is apparently not "notable" enough for reliable sources to dig into it. ~ Mable ( chat) 10:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Ridiculous fan theory based on old game assets, with no reliable secondary coverage or even primary statements that it is the case. -- ferret ( talk) 12:14, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
@ Idazmi:@ Soetermans:@ Maplestrip:@ Ferret:@ Sergecross73:@ Martin IIIa:@ Icewhiz: Somebody did end up finding a Game Informer article which talks about it. The writer (Ben Reeves, a Game Informer employee) did believe in the robotic legs "theory", but he stated "Nintendo has never commented on this fact". (and as User:Masem said, we now have statements from Cuthbert and Miyamoto saying it's not true) - Masem believes that now we can comment on the fan theory but not state it as truth. IMO it would be nice to find additional RSes that talk about it. It would also be nice to contact Reeves and show him Cuthbert's and Miyamoto's statements to see if he will update the article. WhisperToMe ( talk) 18:06, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WhisperToMe:@ Soetermans:@ Maplestrip:@ Ferret:@ Sergecross73:@ Martin IIIa:@ Icewhiz: Shigeru Miyamoto has never stated that the Star Fox characters legs were not mechanical in any context, including the JWittz interview you linked. In fact, at 8:26 in that video, Miyamoto's translator directly states that it was an artistic choice he deliberately made to explain why Fox has humanoid legs instead of the legs of a fox, directly implying that he is a cyborg in the style of Rocket Raccoon. Also, while Dylan Cuthbert was the programmer of Star Fox under Argonaut Software, he was not the character design artist, nor did he create the scenario. Cuthbert is also not directly affiliated with nor employed under Nintendo. Idazmi ( talk) 07:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Quentin Miller seems to be embracing that idea with the name of his latest mixtape Falco. Falco is a character from the video game series Star Fox. Falco is the wingman to Fox McCloud and Falco just happens to have metal legs. Just like Falco, Quentin Miller is ready to takeoff and shoot for the stars.. Icewhiz ( talk) 09:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Proposed sentence: "There is a fan theory stating that Fox McCloud, along with other Star Fox members, had his legs amputated and replaced with metal prostheses,(Game Informer source) and this is referenced in a song by rapper Quentin Miller; Cuthbert stated that the characters' legs were not amputated, and Miyamoto stated that the appearance of metal legs was a design choice rather than an indication that the legs were amputated." WhisperToMe ( talk) 04:40, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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I propose to add this page to the category Animal superheroes.
Although McCloud is not a superhero in the typical sense, I observe that characters such as Crash Bandicoot, Sonic and Spyro are also listed there, to whom the same could be argued to apply, and therefore think that it would be sensible to include Fox McCloud on said list.
If there are additional pages for the rest of the Star Fox team, they could also be added to the category, as several other franchises referenced by this category also have multiple characters listed, such as those from the Captain Carrot comics. 2A02:C7D:16D0:4F00:9986:D999:81D9:26A6 ( talk) 21:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
The lead section of the article describes Fox as the chief protagonist of the Star Fox saga, which I find redundant. I mean, he is already the protagonist, what makes him chief among others? Last time I checked, Star Fox doesn't have multiple and rotating protagonists or an ensemble cast. Yes, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox Command have multiple playable characters but that doesn't mean that Fox is no longer the sole protagonist of the saga. Am I missing something? Leader Vladimir ( talk) 16:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I think Fox qualifies as high-importance with regards to WP:VG, he was listed in the "Greatest Gaming Icons" magazine and is extremely well-known, if not for Star Fox than for his heavy popularity in Smash. However, since he is listed as one of the mid-tier examples Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment, I thought that I would ask for agreement on this. If people agree, I can change his name to someone else on the table. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 19:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)