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Please be advised that the 'Opposition Party' and 'Opposition Leader' fields in the Infobox government cabinet template are intended to be filled in for cabinets that have a formal Parliamentary Opposition. Frequently, but not exclusively, in the Westminster system.
While this mistake is understandable since the leader of the largest non-cabinet party is occasionally informally referred to as the opposition leader, it's not an official designation and those fields shouldn't be filled in for Dutch cabinets in order to avoid giving one party undue weight in the eyes of wiki readers unaware of this fact. Especially because the largest non-cabinet party in parliament is usually still a minority of the opposition and their leader does not speak as a representative for the entire opposition the way the official opposition leader in a formal parliamentary opposition does.
I've fixed this issue on the other pages for Dutch cabinets as well. Robrecht ( talk) 21:35, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
There are a lot of sidebars and tables, which creates a lot of white space.. Dajasj ( talk) 12:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Bart Terpstra In the context of the Netherlands, as in many other parliamentary systems, the word "government" is understood in the narrow sense, referring to "the King and the Ministers", as defined by article 42.1 of the Constitution. It does not comprise other parts of the political system such as the judiciary. Luxorr ( talk) 09:32, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Bart Terpstra Some of the changes of your reverts are fine by me, but I take issue with some reverts. Allow me to clarify my edits.
[[Dutch farmers' protests|farmers]]
and [[Neoliberalism|Rutte's style of politics]]
.Luxorr ( talk) 12:30, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
I've changed the article and removed the remarks about fracking having caused the earthquakes in Groningen. The linked article (NRC, 8-Oct-2022) also does not mention fracking. It is about an earthquake that took place in October last year (2022) and continues about the parliamentary audit that took place about the decisions the government took on natural gas production in Groningen. So without an article specifically stating that fracking caused the earthquakes in Groningen the article should not mention fracking. In any case, fracking is used for liberating natural gas from shale. The source rock in the Groningen field is sandstone, that is sufficiently porous by itself such that fracking does not add anything. The wikipedia article Groningen gas field does not mention fracking either. I admit that it is a minor point in an article about the fall of this cabinet, but it is still good to understand that fracking was never part of the political discussions around the Groningen gas field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.108.4.230 ( talk) 08:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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Please be advised that the 'Opposition Party' and 'Opposition Leader' fields in the Infobox government cabinet template are intended to be filled in for cabinets that have a formal Parliamentary Opposition. Frequently, but not exclusively, in the Westminster system.
While this mistake is understandable since the leader of the largest non-cabinet party is occasionally informally referred to as the opposition leader, it's not an official designation and those fields shouldn't be filled in for Dutch cabinets in order to avoid giving one party undue weight in the eyes of wiki readers unaware of this fact. Especially because the largest non-cabinet party in parliament is usually still a minority of the opposition and their leader does not speak as a representative for the entire opposition the way the official opposition leader in a formal parliamentary opposition does.
I've fixed this issue on the other pages for Dutch cabinets as well. Robrecht ( talk) 21:35, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
There are a lot of sidebars and tables, which creates a lot of white space.. Dajasj ( talk) 12:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
@ Bart Terpstra In the context of the Netherlands, as in many other parliamentary systems, the word "government" is understood in the narrow sense, referring to "the King and the Ministers", as defined by article 42.1 of the Constitution. It does not comprise other parts of the political system such as the judiciary. Luxorr ( talk) 09:32, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Bart Terpstra Some of the changes of your reverts are fine by me, but I take issue with some reverts. Allow me to clarify my edits.
[[Dutch farmers' protests|farmers]]
and [[Neoliberalism|Rutte's style of politics]]
.Luxorr ( talk) 12:30, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
I've changed the article and removed the remarks about fracking having caused the earthquakes in Groningen. The linked article (NRC, 8-Oct-2022) also does not mention fracking. It is about an earthquake that took place in October last year (2022) and continues about the parliamentary audit that took place about the decisions the government took on natural gas production in Groningen. So without an article specifically stating that fracking caused the earthquakes in Groningen the article should not mention fracking. In any case, fracking is used for liberating natural gas from shale. The source rock in the Groningen field is sandstone, that is sufficiently porous by itself such that fracking does not add anything. The wikipedia article Groningen gas field does not mention fracking either. I admit that it is a minor point in an article about the fall of this cabinet, but it is still good to understand that fracking was never part of the political discussions around the Groningen gas field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.108.4.230 ( talk) 08:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)