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It's absurd to think that someone in the 1930's was capable of running a 10 second 100 meter dash, much less a 100 yard dash. I'm deleting that part. User:169.229.125.167 05:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The Horsemen's counterparts on the line were known as "The Seven Mules". 1) Does anyone have the reference to this? 2)With that, does it deserve mention in the article? Rlquall 02:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes - see the end of the current article, the Mules are covered. Arctictern 21:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
The previous article was mainly a description of the University of Nebraska's games against the four horsemen. I moved that to the bottom of the page and added a substantial history of the actual group. This history was adapted from the Notre Dame Football Year Book of 1999. I addded items of my own knowledge to it. My father was Jim (James) Crowley, left halfback of the group.
Pat Crowley
Hee's the old article perhaps some info can be used to better the current article, looks redundant though. Quadzilla99 05:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The Four Horsemen was a term first used by Grantland Rice to describe the backfield of Notre Dame's football team in 1924. The four players were quarterback Harry Stuhldreher, left halfback Jim Crowley, right halfback Don Miller and fullback Elmer Layden. All but Layden were All-Americans, and all four are members of the College Football Hall of Fame, being inducted in 1958, 1966, 1970 and 1951, respectively. Stuhldreher, Crowley, Miller and Layden led Notre Dame to a 10-0 season in 1924 and the team's first national championship.
The term first appeared in the New York Herald-Tribune on 19 October, 1924. Rice's story about the previous day's win by Notre Dame over Army began:
Upon returning to South Bend, the four took publicicty photographs in their uniforms, riding borrowed horses. The pictures were sent out over the wire services, and the name stuck.
Stuhldreher went on to a brief professional football career before taking a coaching position at Villanova in 1925. In 1936 he became head coach at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and retired from football in 1947. Crowley also played briefly professionally, before coaching at Georgia ( 1926), Michigan State ( 1929) and Fordham ( 1933), where he coached Vince Lombardi. Miller coached at Georgia Tech and Ohio State, before entering practice as a lawyer. Layden, who also lettered in basketball at Notre Dame and was elected president of his senior class, practiced law before coaching at Columbia College in Dubuque and Duquesne. In 1933 he was hired as Atheltic Director and head football coach at Notre Dame.
The headers on the page says that sourcing is insufficient, and that the style is inappropriate. I disagree. I see most of the claims cited properly, both with references at the bottom and with in-line citations. I see a neutral tone and encyclopedia-style style.
Furthermore, the headers say to "See talk page for more details." Well, there's nothing on the talk page related to style or sources.
So I'm removing the headers, which undermine an informative if still a bit short & shallow article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moishe Rosenbaum ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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It's absurd to think that someone in the 1930's was capable of running a 10 second 100 meter dash, much less a 100 yard dash. I'm deleting that part. User:169.229.125.167 05:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The Horsemen's counterparts on the line were known as "The Seven Mules". 1) Does anyone have the reference to this? 2)With that, does it deserve mention in the article? Rlquall 02:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes - see the end of the current article, the Mules are covered. Arctictern 21:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
The previous article was mainly a description of the University of Nebraska's games against the four horsemen. I moved that to the bottom of the page and added a substantial history of the actual group. This history was adapted from the Notre Dame Football Year Book of 1999. I addded items of my own knowledge to it. My father was Jim (James) Crowley, left halfback of the group.
Pat Crowley
Hee's the old article perhaps some info can be used to better the current article, looks redundant though. Quadzilla99 05:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The Four Horsemen was a term first used by Grantland Rice to describe the backfield of Notre Dame's football team in 1924. The four players were quarterback Harry Stuhldreher, left halfback Jim Crowley, right halfback Don Miller and fullback Elmer Layden. All but Layden were All-Americans, and all four are members of the College Football Hall of Fame, being inducted in 1958, 1966, 1970 and 1951, respectively. Stuhldreher, Crowley, Miller and Layden led Notre Dame to a 10-0 season in 1924 and the team's first national championship.
The term first appeared in the New York Herald-Tribune on 19 October, 1924. Rice's story about the previous day's win by Notre Dame over Army began:
Upon returning to South Bend, the four took publicicty photographs in their uniforms, riding borrowed horses. The pictures were sent out over the wire services, and the name stuck.
Stuhldreher went on to a brief professional football career before taking a coaching position at Villanova in 1925. In 1936 he became head coach at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and retired from football in 1947. Crowley also played briefly professionally, before coaching at Georgia ( 1926), Michigan State ( 1929) and Fordham ( 1933), where he coached Vince Lombardi. Miller coached at Georgia Tech and Ohio State, before entering practice as a lawyer. Layden, who also lettered in basketball at Notre Dame and was elected president of his senior class, practiced law before coaching at Columbia College in Dubuque and Duquesne. In 1933 he was hired as Atheltic Director and head football coach at Notre Dame.
The headers on the page says that sourcing is insufficient, and that the style is inappropriate. I disagree. I see most of the claims cited properly, both with references at the bottom and with in-line citations. I see a neutral tone and encyclopedia-style style.
Furthermore, the headers say to "See talk page for more details." Well, there's nothing on the talk page related to style or sources.
So I'm removing the headers, which undermine an informative if still a bit short & shallow article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moishe Rosenbaum ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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