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If someone could replace the diagram with a better one, that'd be great. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 15:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Robert Harts garden has been described as possibly the only fully developed working permaculture site in the UK. Do we have a reference for this? -- Salix alba ( talk) 15:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
anyway i removed the claim, i have seen the site when hart was still alive and it would not even go as far as calling it a working garden. does it actually still exist? Madbishop 14:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Based on aerial imaging, the new owners cut down half the trees and replaced it with a lawn =) Matthew Ferguson ( talk) 13:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
The article includes substantial links. I think those count as references for any practical purpose, so I removed the references warning. Ray Van De Walker 05:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
3-D Gardening is a stupid term. All gardening is actually 4-dimensional since it requires time for the plants to grow. I took that out since it was un-cited and unnecessary. - Plant Scientist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.60.196 ( talk) 03:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
The concept of forest gardening is integrated in an agroforestry training course described by a document disseminated by Trees for the Future, Inc., a non-profit tree-planting organization based in Silver Spring, Md. The document identifies "Expansion of agricultural land and a variety of human activities" as forces that "have led to deforestation and land degradation in many parts of the world. If this continues, the potential contribution of forests to economic development and ecological stability will not be realized. Developing new natural resource management techniques to address such devastating environmental degradation is important for our rapidly growing world. The lack of training materials for land management, reforestation and agroforestry in many developing nations makes the problem worse." The organization's training guide "Taking Action, Reaching Out," aims to provide the information that will support sustainable land management for economic development that avoids environmental degradation. The publication concludes with a 38-question test leading to a certificate in agroforestry.
References
"Taking Action, Reaching Out" (agroforestry training manual), Trees for the Future, Silver Spring, Md., https://www.treesftf.org/resources/training%20program/english/Agfo_manual_english_small.pdf.
Can someone who knows editing in a wiki article put this in the right format? Thank you. I'm just a reader and I found this Forest Gardening manual quite helpful.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theebookman ( talk • contribs) 00:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
added note:
Letter to the editor of the Forest Gardening article. in Wikipedia...
I am a consultant for abatement of carbon emissions and one of the most effective remedies is to connect forest gardens with sequestration of carbon. The trees planted to absorb carbon are guarded by the local farmers because the concept of the forest garden has shown the farmers that the trees are more valuable in the ground, as the spine of the Forest Garden, than when turned into lumber or firewood. Dave Deppner and the team at TREES in Silver Spring, MD, have produced a useful text that could usefully be added to your list of resources at the end of your wiki article about Forest Gardening. Can you add the link ?
Sincerely,
Steve McCrea Consulttant
TO CONTACT Trees for the Future, publishers of a book about Forest Gardens, please write to dave@treesftf.org
THANK YOU, I hope I haven't created a lot of work for someone by adding this to the discussion page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theebookman ( talk • contribs) 00:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
It would be good to see some info about traditional forest gardening / agroforestry in various countries. An example would be Kandyan Forest Gardens in Sri Lanka [1]. I haven't added this to the article as it doesn't make sense to add a single country example. Stainless steel cat ( talk) 18:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Proposal - Jarble has proposed that home garden be merged into this article.
This section needs its references given in full and in standard format. It probably also needs additional references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noyster ( talk • contribs) 12:04, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
The period when Robert Hart developed his variation on forest gardening, which is stated with a source to be in the 1980s seems dubious. He says that he was inspired to develop these techniques when reading an article as background for his 1967 book, but his publications have no statement that I can find about when he started forest gardening, as distinct from the forest farming that he had practiced earlier. "During the 1980s" seems unlikely as the period for development, however, that is when his published analyses were published. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 18:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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So basically, this is yet another neologism regarding combining trees with agriculture? The word agroforestry has existed as a term since the 1970s, apparently this is exactly the same as Hart's coffee-table coinage, thus shouldn't this entire article be merged with that? About a third of the references used for this article use the term "agroforestry", which has a much more academic and international cachet. I was looking at the articles on agroforestry in Dutch, German, French and Spanish, they are all much more clear than the stuff in English. This article "forest gardening" looks as if it just a random collection of links to "permaculture" businesses & various things involving trees -I just removed stuff about the climate of Israel and an arboretum, and an external link leading to a wiki you needed to pay to join to enter. And there is more that should be removed here! Leo Breman ( talk) 13:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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If someone could replace the diagram with a better one, that'd be great. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 15:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Robert Harts garden has been described as possibly the only fully developed working permaculture site in the UK. Do we have a reference for this? -- Salix alba ( talk) 15:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
anyway i removed the claim, i have seen the site when hart was still alive and it would not even go as far as calling it a working garden. does it actually still exist? Madbishop 14:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Based on aerial imaging, the new owners cut down half the trees and replaced it with a lawn =) Matthew Ferguson ( talk) 13:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
The article includes substantial links. I think those count as references for any practical purpose, so I removed the references warning. Ray Van De Walker 05:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
3-D Gardening is a stupid term. All gardening is actually 4-dimensional since it requires time for the plants to grow. I took that out since it was un-cited and unnecessary. - Plant Scientist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.60.196 ( talk) 03:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
The concept of forest gardening is integrated in an agroforestry training course described by a document disseminated by Trees for the Future, Inc., a non-profit tree-planting organization based in Silver Spring, Md. The document identifies "Expansion of agricultural land and a variety of human activities" as forces that "have led to deforestation and land degradation in many parts of the world. If this continues, the potential contribution of forests to economic development and ecological stability will not be realized. Developing new natural resource management techniques to address such devastating environmental degradation is important for our rapidly growing world. The lack of training materials for land management, reforestation and agroforestry in many developing nations makes the problem worse." The organization's training guide "Taking Action, Reaching Out," aims to provide the information that will support sustainable land management for economic development that avoids environmental degradation. The publication concludes with a 38-question test leading to a certificate in agroforestry.
References
"Taking Action, Reaching Out" (agroforestry training manual), Trees for the Future, Silver Spring, Md., https://www.treesftf.org/resources/training%20program/english/Agfo_manual_english_small.pdf.
Can someone who knows editing in a wiki article put this in the right format? Thank you. I'm just a reader and I found this Forest Gardening manual quite helpful.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theebookman ( talk • contribs) 00:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
added note:
Letter to the editor of the Forest Gardening article. in Wikipedia...
I am a consultant for abatement of carbon emissions and one of the most effective remedies is to connect forest gardens with sequestration of carbon. The trees planted to absorb carbon are guarded by the local farmers because the concept of the forest garden has shown the farmers that the trees are more valuable in the ground, as the spine of the Forest Garden, than when turned into lumber or firewood. Dave Deppner and the team at TREES in Silver Spring, MD, have produced a useful text that could usefully be added to your list of resources at the end of your wiki article about Forest Gardening. Can you add the link ?
Sincerely,
Steve McCrea Consulttant
TO CONTACT Trees for the Future, publishers of a book about Forest Gardens, please write to dave@treesftf.org
THANK YOU, I hope I haven't created a lot of work for someone by adding this to the discussion page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theebookman ( talk • contribs) 00:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
It would be good to see some info about traditional forest gardening / agroforestry in various countries. An example would be Kandyan Forest Gardens in Sri Lanka [1]. I haven't added this to the article as it doesn't make sense to add a single country example. Stainless steel cat ( talk) 18:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Proposal - Jarble has proposed that home garden be merged into this article.
This section needs its references given in full and in standard format. It probably also needs additional references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noyster ( talk • contribs) 12:04, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
The period when Robert Hart developed his variation on forest gardening, which is stated with a source to be in the 1980s seems dubious. He says that he was inspired to develop these techniques when reading an article as background for his 1967 book, but his publications have no statement that I can find about when he started forest gardening, as distinct from the forest farming that he had practiced earlier. "During the 1980s" seems unlikely as the period for development, however, that is when his published analyses were published. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 18:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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So basically, this is yet another neologism regarding combining trees with agriculture? The word agroforestry has existed as a term since the 1970s, apparently this is exactly the same as Hart's coffee-table coinage, thus shouldn't this entire article be merged with that? About a third of the references used for this article use the term "agroforestry", which has a much more academic and international cachet. I was looking at the articles on agroforestry in Dutch, German, French and Spanish, they are all much more clear than the stuff in English. This article "forest gardening" looks as if it just a random collection of links to "permaculture" businesses & various things involving trees -I just removed stuff about the climate of Israel and an arboretum, and an external link leading to a wiki you needed to pay to join to enter. And there is more that should be removed here! Leo Breman ( talk) 13:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)