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I think this list is cool (been contemplating trying to build one for Nevada). I have a few suggestions. First, instead of the synthetic 8-part division, which requires a table to explain it, break it down to per-order and/or per-family ( [ [ list of Asteraceae of Britain and Ireland ] ], [ [ list of Malvales of Britain and Ireland ] ] ), which also link conveniently from the articles on each taxon. Second, the table should list systematic name first, and skip common names if there are none, instead of the odd-sounding "a Dandelion". I'd also skip the tabular form and just do plain list, with common names and other info as parenthetical note after systematic name - tables just don't do as well across a range of screen widths and browser types. Stan 23:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion? I see quite a few introduced species, but very far from all, and not even all species that are naturalised, but there are also one or two commonly planted species in that are not naturalised. There's also quite a bit of checking to be done that names (taxonomy and particularly common names) point directly to existing pages (I'll do some, but whether I can get it all done is another matter!) - MPF 11:29, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
The List of British hedgerow plants duplicates these pages - the great majority of British plants can be found in a hedgerow somewhere, so there is little or no value in having it as a separate list - MPF 13:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I've started creating a picture index of plants of the British Isles to supplement this. It's very much in its infancy right now, but you can see the beginnings here. I'm contemplating a different category system to that used here, such as perhaps splitting things into where they are generally found, or something like that, since I imagined it being most useful to people with little knowledge of taxonomy, however that is for when I have more in it! I'm finding it quite hard to choose pictures, since I don't actually know a lot about plants, so I don't necessarily know which pictures show the most usefully identifying features. I have noticed that there are often a lot of pictures on commons, even when there isn't an article on a species, so it could be a lot of work getting this as useful as possible. I appreciate any help :-) Nice work on this list here, by the way! Most handy. Skittle 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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Codf1977 ( talk) 15:18, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Having every English name in the child articles as a link seems a horrible idea. In most cases the name of the article is under the scientific name, as it should be. By linking every English name, you get at best a redirect to the article under the scientific name or at worst a link to an unrelated article or a disambiguation page (e.g. Daisy). So you're either double-linking or just confusing the reader. I can't see any good reason to keep the English names as links. -- Fyrefly ( talk) 22:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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The term " British Isles" has a clear geographical definition as per its article, except for the inclusion or exclusion of the Channel Islands. However, it has become increasingly politically unacceptable to include the Republic of Ireland within a unit using the word "British". What was the "Botanical Society of the British Isles" changed its name to the " Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland" – which, one can speculate, has the advantage of having the same abbreviation, BSBI. So there's a case for this article being at "Flora of Britain and Ireland". However, it's a problematic phrase in my view, because of the ambiguity of "Britain" in this context – does it mean "Great Britain" or the "United Kingdom"? If the latter, then "Ireland" must mean the "Republic of Ireland". So I think that "Flora of Great Britain and Ireland" is a better title, and it corresponds to the five-volume work Flora of Great Britain and Ireland – but there does need to be a statement about the status of the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, which are not part of either Great Britain or Ireland. Peter coxhead ( talk) 07:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
I have edited List of ferns and fern allies of Great Britain and Ireland to remove the key and add descriptive text rather than simply using * and e. I've also added colour as follows:
Native | Introduced | Extinct |
I think this improves the tables, as it removes a lot of whitespace whilst also allowing readers to quickly identify which plants are native, introduced and extinct. Personally, I found the use of asterisks unhelpful as I thought they were easily missed where they were placed in the cell (right next to the cell border) which is what prompted me to make this change. It also means if, for any reason, a section of the article was linked to a reader doesn't have to scroll all the way back up to the top to find the key.
I'd like to apply this change to all of the articles on the flora of Great Britain and Ireland, but I thought it would be best to ask for feedback before going ahead, e.g. do others support this change, is "Native" a suitable description or would another word be preferable, and are the colours used appropriate (I've tried to follow colour guidelines on accessibility). Adam Black talk • contributions 15:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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I think this list is cool (been contemplating trying to build one for Nevada). I have a few suggestions. First, instead of the synthetic 8-part division, which requires a table to explain it, break it down to per-order and/or per-family ( [ [ list of Asteraceae of Britain and Ireland ] ], [ [ list of Malvales of Britain and Ireland ] ] ), which also link conveniently from the articles on each taxon. Second, the table should list systematic name first, and skip common names if there are none, instead of the odd-sounding "a Dandelion". I'd also skip the tabular form and just do plain list, with common names and other info as parenthetical note after systematic name - tables just don't do as well across a range of screen widths and browser types. Stan 23:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion? I see quite a few introduced species, but very far from all, and not even all species that are naturalised, but there are also one or two commonly planted species in that are not naturalised. There's also quite a bit of checking to be done that names (taxonomy and particularly common names) point directly to existing pages (I'll do some, but whether I can get it all done is another matter!) - MPF 11:29, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
The List of British hedgerow plants duplicates these pages - the great majority of British plants can be found in a hedgerow somewhere, so there is little or no value in having it as a separate list - MPF 13:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I've started creating a picture index of plants of the British Isles to supplement this. It's very much in its infancy right now, but you can see the beginnings here. I'm contemplating a different category system to that used here, such as perhaps splitting things into where they are generally found, or something like that, since I imagined it being most useful to people with little knowledge of taxonomy, however that is for when I have more in it! I'm finding it quite hard to choose pictures, since I don't actually know a lot about plants, so I don't necessarily know which pictures show the most usefully identifying features. I have noticed that there are often a lot of pictures on commons, even when there isn't an article on a species, so it could be a lot of work getting this as useful as possible. I appreciate any help :-) Nice work on this list here, by the way! Most handy. Skittle 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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Codf1977 ( talk) 15:18, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Having every English name in the child articles as a link seems a horrible idea. In most cases the name of the article is under the scientific name, as it should be. By linking every English name, you get at best a redirect to the article under the scientific name or at worst a link to an unrelated article or a disambiguation page (e.g. Daisy). So you're either double-linking or just confusing the reader. I can't see any good reason to keep the English names as links. -- Fyrefly ( talk) 22:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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The term " British Isles" has a clear geographical definition as per its article, except for the inclusion or exclusion of the Channel Islands. However, it has become increasingly politically unacceptable to include the Republic of Ireland within a unit using the word "British". What was the "Botanical Society of the British Isles" changed its name to the " Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland" – which, one can speculate, has the advantage of having the same abbreviation, BSBI. So there's a case for this article being at "Flora of Britain and Ireland". However, it's a problematic phrase in my view, because of the ambiguity of "Britain" in this context – does it mean "Great Britain" or the "United Kingdom"? If the latter, then "Ireland" must mean the "Republic of Ireland". So I think that "Flora of Great Britain and Ireland" is a better title, and it corresponds to the five-volume work Flora of Great Britain and Ireland – but there does need to be a statement about the status of the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, which are not part of either Great Britain or Ireland. Peter coxhead ( talk) 07:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
I have edited List of ferns and fern allies of Great Britain and Ireland to remove the key and add descriptive text rather than simply using * and e. I've also added colour as follows:
Native | Introduced | Extinct |
I think this improves the tables, as it removes a lot of whitespace whilst also allowing readers to quickly identify which plants are native, introduced and extinct. Personally, I found the use of asterisks unhelpful as I thought they were easily missed where they were placed in the cell (right next to the cell border) which is what prompted me to make this change. It also means if, for any reason, a section of the article was linked to a reader doesn't have to scroll all the way back up to the top to find the key.
I'd like to apply this change to all of the articles on the flora of Great Britain and Ireland, but I thought it would be best to ask for feedback before going ahead, e.g. do others support this change, is "Native" a suitable description or would another word be preferable, and are the colours used appropriate (I've tried to follow colour guidelines on accessibility). Adam Black talk • contributions 15:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)