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This issue impacts a number of articles around popular music. Why are the current members so prominently featured? This is just one example of many bands whose current incarnation is certainly not the one that should be featured in an encyclopedia. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame provides a good third-party source for who the most prominent members of a band are. For Fleetwood Mac, they are Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan, ,Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham.
I feel those should be listed as members of the band. I am not making this edit because all the articles seem to be written in this style. Perhaps this issue has been discussed and resolved on another page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcusa ( talk • contribs) 16:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
This newly written section is very biased towards one version of events, and basically uses one source, the not-terribly-reliable Brunning book. Needs a complete rewrite. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 13:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Is there a reason the 1997 Live album The dance is not included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.116.1.24 ( talk) 10:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Under the history section for 1969 the article states:
"On tour in the US in January 1969, the band recorded an album at the soon-to-close Chess Records Studio with some of the blues legends of Chicago, including Willie Dixon, Buddy Guy and Otis Spann."
There is no reference for this. Was the album or any of these recordings ever released please? John a s ( talk) 20:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
There is a conflict in dates within the Fleetwood Mac article for which year the album Rumours was awarded the Grammy Album of the Year. In the introductory section it is stated that it won the award "in 1978", while in the section about the period of 1975-1987 it is stated that it won the award "in 1977". It's possible that the conflict is caused by the award for the 1977 Album of the Year being awarded in 1978, but the phraseology is nearly identical in both cases so I don't think this is the reason for the discrepancy. Hopefully someone can clear this issue up! 75.168.97.246 ( talk) 19:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
There is way too much unsourced material in this article. Amandil21 ( talk) 17:27, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Someone forgot to list her as a band member. Way not cool! 2600:6C55:6A00:1EDB:14EE:DBFA:7A87:478F ( talk) 07:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I believe that it might be a good idea to add more to the hidden text in the first sentence of the article -- more specifically, we should explicitly let editors know NOT to change "Fleetwood Mac are" to "Fleetwood Mac were," until/unless a credible source has been found that confirms the band has broken up. JeffSpaceman ( talk) 13:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
This statement is contradicted by members of the fake band, and Fleetwood has said that Davis told the real Mac in advance what he intended to do. The facts are difficult to untangle and we are not aiming to fuel controversy. I think the paragraph is best left as it is. 194.81.226.132 ( talk) 14:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Given statements by Fleetwood and Nicks, at what point do we declare the band inactive and close off the timeline bars? It feels like at the moment it's being 99% confirmed but holding off from certainty.... (but we've often declared bands retired then reopened them before, like Pink Floyd). TSP ( talk) 18:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
The band has not toured since 2019, although on Wikipedia, anything short of an official statement is usually inadequate for labeling a band as inactive. One exception that I can think of is the article for The Blue Nile, which lists the band activity as 1981-2004 with a special annotation that says "informal indefinite hiatus". With that precedent, it is certainly possible that we could do the same for Fleetwood Mac (I would not be opposed), but I would prefer further input before we proceed any further. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 17:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Just wondering, why are we stating the band is currently active in the first sentence, while later on there is sourced information that the group is finished from members themselves (including the Mojo ref noted above by User:Back and forth I travel)? Pinging @ DuncanHill:, who pointed out that I should discuss this matter on this talk page, and @ Dobbyelf62:, who was involved some of the discussion above. JeffSpaceman ( talk) 12:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
An official statement from Fleetwood Mac has yet to be made, and like Bretonbanquet said, Nicks is not speaking on the band's behalf. They have still been inactive since the conclusion of their An Evening with Fleetwood Mac tour in 2019, so this can still be factored into the equation. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 13:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Is it just me or does the first part read like a gossip article? I came looking to learn more about a band I like but didn't know much about and was immediately met with what felt like TMZ article about celebrity marriages and name changes I'd have preferred a holistic look at the band and their legacy in the first paragraph just my opinion you guys know best I guess 2600:1006:B186:DAD0:0:50:B55B:3A01 ( talk) 08:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Can you explain how the intro is gossipy? Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 12:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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This issue impacts a number of articles around popular music. Why are the current members so prominently featured? This is just one example of many bands whose current incarnation is certainly not the one that should be featured in an encyclopedia. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame provides a good third-party source for who the most prominent members of a band are. For Fleetwood Mac, they are Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan, ,Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham.
I feel those should be listed as members of the band. I am not making this edit because all the articles seem to be written in this style. Perhaps this issue has been discussed and resolved on another page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcusa ( talk • contribs) 16:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
This newly written section is very biased towards one version of events, and basically uses one source, the not-terribly-reliable Brunning book. Needs a complete rewrite. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 13:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Is there a reason the 1997 Live album The dance is not included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.116.1.24 ( talk) 10:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Under the history section for 1969 the article states:
"On tour in the US in January 1969, the band recorded an album at the soon-to-close Chess Records Studio with some of the blues legends of Chicago, including Willie Dixon, Buddy Guy and Otis Spann."
There is no reference for this. Was the album or any of these recordings ever released please? John a s ( talk) 20:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
There is a conflict in dates within the Fleetwood Mac article for which year the album Rumours was awarded the Grammy Album of the Year. In the introductory section it is stated that it won the award "in 1978", while in the section about the period of 1975-1987 it is stated that it won the award "in 1977". It's possible that the conflict is caused by the award for the 1977 Album of the Year being awarded in 1978, but the phraseology is nearly identical in both cases so I don't think this is the reason for the discrepancy. Hopefully someone can clear this issue up! 75.168.97.246 ( talk) 19:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
There is way too much unsourced material in this article. Amandil21 ( talk) 17:27, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Someone forgot to list her as a band member. Way not cool! 2600:6C55:6A00:1EDB:14EE:DBFA:7A87:478F ( talk) 07:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I believe that it might be a good idea to add more to the hidden text in the first sentence of the article -- more specifically, we should explicitly let editors know NOT to change "Fleetwood Mac are" to "Fleetwood Mac were," until/unless a credible source has been found that confirms the band has broken up. JeffSpaceman ( talk) 13:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
This statement is contradicted by members of the fake band, and Fleetwood has said that Davis told the real Mac in advance what he intended to do. The facts are difficult to untangle and we are not aiming to fuel controversy. I think the paragraph is best left as it is. 194.81.226.132 ( talk) 14:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Given statements by Fleetwood and Nicks, at what point do we declare the band inactive and close off the timeline bars? It feels like at the moment it's being 99% confirmed but holding off from certainty.... (but we've often declared bands retired then reopened them before, like Pink Floyd). TSP ( talk) 18:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
The band has not toured since 2019, although on Wikipedia, anything short of an official statement is usually inadequate for labeling a band as inactive. One exception that I can think of is the article for The Blue Nile, which lists the band activity as 1981-2004 with a special annotation that says "informal indefinite hiatus". With that precedent, it is certainly possible that we could do the same for Fleetwood Mac (I would not be opposed), but I would prefer further input before we proceed any further. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 17:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Just wondering, why are we stating the band is currently active in the first sentence, while later on there is sourced information that the group is finished from members themselves (including the Mojo ref noted above by User:Back and forth I travel)? Pinging @ DuncanHill:, who pointed out that I should discuss this matter on this talk page, and @ Dobbyelf62:, who was involved some of the discussion above. JeffSpaceman ( talk) 12:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
An official statement from Fleetwood Mac has yet to be made, and like Bretonbanquet said, Nicks is not speaking on the band's behalf. They have still been inactive since the conclusion of their An Evening with Fleetwood Mac tour in 2019, so this can still be factored into the equation. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 13:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Is it just me or does the first part read like a gossip article? I came looking to learn more about a band I like but didn't know much about and was immediately met with what felt like TMZ article about celebrity marriages and name changes I'd have preferred a holistic look at the band and their legacy in the first paragraph just my opinion you guys know best I guess 2600:1006:B186:DAD0:0:50:B55B:3A01 ( talk) 08:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Can you explain how the intro is gossipy? Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 12:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)