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I have taken a photo of a bottle of fireball that I can add if I knew how to make the infobox bit, I will look into it when i get time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.57.122 ( talk) 23:55, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Fireball is not actually a liqueur but is a cinnamon whisky. It is made using Canadian Whisky. Would anyone be opposed to changing this? KSimon NolaZ ( talk) 20:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)KSimon_NolaZ
I agree that Fireball Cinnamon Whisky would be a more accurate page title for this product. I am not as familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia, would you look into doing the history merge? Knowing Fireball pretty well from a bar sense, I feel like people will mostly be looking for Fireball Cinnamon Whisky rather than liqueur, though this is obviously accurate as well. KSimon NolaZ ( talk) 01:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC) KSimon_NolaZ
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 10:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Fireball (liqueur) → Fireball Cinnamon Whisky – The brand name printed on the label of this product is the proposed name "Fireball Cinnamon Whisky". The proposed name is probably more recognizable to most people than "Fireball (liqueur)", and using that name would avoid the need for parenthetical disambiguation. The proposed name is already a redirect to this page, although it was briefly populated by an article created as a semi-duplicate by an inexperienced editor (from which some non-duplicate content was later merged into the "Fireball (liqueur)" article). BarrelProof ( talk) 05:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
You can get very intoxicated, crash your boat, have it confiscated and be arrested if you drink and pilot at the same time. Drinking lots of Fireball and driving (a boat). .36 blood alcohol and driving a boat badly is not a good plan. Zaniewski, Ann (July 9, 2013). "Drunken boater makes smashing entrance into marina, lands in jail". Detroit Free Press. Macomb Township, Michigan. Retrieved July 12, 2013. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 11:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I've seen a few stories on the news lately about how Fireball Cinnamon Whisky fogs thongs 41% faster than other brands of liquor. Perhaps that fact should get its own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.190.174.107 ( talk) 22:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
This product was formerly branded as Dr. McGillicuddy's Fireball Whisky Shooter, a hot cinnamon flavoured corn whiskey. It was (and still is) produced and bottled in Quebec, Canada, and distributed by the Sazerac Company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.254.154 ( talk) 20:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
I've seen lots of editors who dislike various lyric sites. Sometimes it is WP:RS and sometimes it is WP:copyright and sometimes it is WP:linkspam objections. All of those exist. Notwithstanding this being the wikipedia equivalent of How many angels can dance on the head of a pin, trying to find a source of any kind that details the wording of a lyric is always problematical. And it doesn't change the factual accuracy at all. So I understand your concerns, but note that we actually do have a source, albeit perhaps not the best. If you eliminate those kinds of references, then you are left with references to the liner notes (which probably aren't on line) or to the record itself. And then someone says that it is WP:OR, and that it needs a WP:RS. You get the idea. I actually thought I've made a number of substantial contributions to this article, and that the whole cinnamon liquor phenomena should be developed. In passing, the group we are talking about also referenced Goldschlagger in their lyrics, so it is part of the culture. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 17:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
One footnote in Fireball Cinnamon Whisky is reworked text from Coumarin article. Please do not remove this. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 22:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I note in the history that this stuff was there and its gone now. Lots of other articles have similar material. We need to have a mixologist with a proper book tweak this up.
I am not putting this in, as we need a WP:RS like Old Mr. Boston for it. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 00:20, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Flavor or Flavour? Color or Colour? I think it should be the former, as this is an American product. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 15:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
I went through most of the related products section and looked at the citations. None of them had Fireball Whisky mentions, rather there were links to company websites, and a few blog posts talking about cinnamon as a flavoring agent. I went into a virtual reality page and went to see if they approved of related products section (relating Vive to Oculus) and the consensus there was it was an unnecessary section. I believe most of the section was products trying to help their Search Engine relevancy by associating with an established alcohol. — bermsalot ( talk) 19:43, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
I propose we add a link to flavored liquors (if we must) which I have updated to include cinnamon liquors. This page feels more appropriate as it is a collection of liquor brands with flavoring agents, rather than a single product page.
Another suggestion is we create a stand-alone page for cinnamon flavored liquor. I’ve started a draft if we want to go down that road.
See below, as I’ve gone through the list of similar products. Many do not have citations and are made with a very different base. The only distinguishable similarity is the use of cinnamon. I feel if we define similar by one flavoring agent then nearly every page would have links to multiple brands.
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The article currently says "The Sazerac Company purchased the brand rights and formula from Seagram in 1989." It cites a 2014 Bloomberg article by Devin Leonard and a 2015 Motley Fool article by Travis Hoium as the sources for that. The 2017 article by Brendan Coffey, also published by Bloomberg, says "Fireball Cinnamon Whisky was just a Canada-only schnapps among a clutch of flavored Dr. Mcgillicuddy-branded drinks that Goldring bought in 2000, according to the company." Those two dates (1989 and 2000) are 11 years apart. How can we reconcile that? — BarrelProof ( talk) 19:07, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Fix ur tops 74.254.156.22 ( talk) 23:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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I have taken a photo of a bottle of fireball that I can add if I knew how to make the infobox bit, I will look into it when i get time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.57.122 ( talk) 23:55, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Fireball is not actually a liqueur but is a cinnamon whisky. It is made using Canadian Whisky. Would anyone be opposed to changing this? KSimon NolaZ ( talk) 20:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)KSimon_NolaZ
I agree that Fireball Cinnamon Whisky would be a more accurate page title for this product. I am not as familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia, would you look into doing the history merge? Knowing Fireball pretty well from a bar sense, I feel like people will mostly be looking for Fireball Cinnamon Whisky rather than liqueur, though this is obviously accurate as well. KSimon NolaZ ( talk) 01:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC) KSimon_NolaZ
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 10:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Fireball (liqueur) → Fireball Cinnamon Whisky – The brand name printed on the label of this product is the proposed name "Fireball Cinnamon Whisky". The proposed name is probably more recognizable to most people than "Fireball (liqueur)", and using that name would avoid the need for parenthetical disambiguation. The proposed name is already a redirect to this page, although it was briefly populated by an article created as a semi-duplicate by an inexperienced editor (from which some non-duplicate content was later merged into the "Fireball (liqueur)" article). BarrelProof ( talk) 05:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
You can get very intoxicated, crash your boat, have it confiscated and be arrested if you drink and pilot at the same time. Drinking lots of Fireball and driving (a boat). .36 blood alcohol and driving a boat badly is not a good plan. Zaniewski, Ann (July 9, 2013). "Drunken boater makes smashing entrance into marina, lands in jail". Detroit Free Press. Macomb Township, Michigan. Retrieved July 12, 2013. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 11:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I've seen a few stories on the news lately about how Fireball Cinnamon Whisky fogs thongs 41% faster than other brands of liquor. Perhaps that fact should get its own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.190.174.107 ( talk) 22:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
This product was formerly branded as Dr. McGillicuddy's Fireball Whisky Shooter, a hot cinnamon flavoured corn whiskey. It was (and still is) produced and bottled in Quebec, Canada, and distributed by the Sazerac Company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.254.154 ( talk) 20:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
I've seen lots of editors who dislike various lyric sites. Sometimes it is WP:RS and sometimes it is WP:copyright and sometimes it is WP:linkspam objections. All of those exist. Notwithstanding this being the wikipedia equivalent of How many angels can dance on the head of a pin, trying to find a source of any kind that details the wording of a lyric is always problematical. And it doesn't change the factual accuracy at all. So I understand your concerns, but note that we actually do have a source, albeit perhaps not the best. If you eliminate those kinds of references, then you are left with references to the liner notes (which probably aren't on line) or to the record itself. And then someone says that it is WP:OR, and that it needs a WP:RS. You get the idea. I actually thought I've made a number of substantial contributions to this article, and that the whole cinnamon liquor phenomena should be developed. In passing, the group we are talking about also referenced Goldschlagger in their lyrics, so it is part of the culture. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 17:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
One footnote in Fireball Cinnamon Whisky is reworked text from Coumarin article. Please do not remove this. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 22:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I note in the history that this stuff was there and its gone now. Lots of other articles have similar material. We need to have a mixologist with a proper book tweak this up.
I am not putting this in, as we need a WP:RS like Old Mr. Boston for it. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 00:20, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Flavor or Flavour? Color or Colour? I think it should be the former, as this is an American product. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 15:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
I went through most of the related products section and looked at the citations. None of them had Fireball Whisky mentions, rather there were links to company websites, and a few blog posts talking about cinnamon as a flavoring agent. I went into a virtual reality page and went to see if they approved of related products section (relating Vive to Oculus) and the consensus there was it was an unnecessary section. I believe most of the section was products trying to help their Search Engine relevancy by associating with an established alcohol. — bermsalot ( talk) 19:43, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
I propose we add a link to flavored liquors (if we must) which I have updated to include cinnamon liquors. This page feels more appropriate as it is a collection of liquor brands with flavoring agents, rather than a single product page.
Another suggestion is we create a stand-alone page for cinnamon flavored liquor. I’ve started a draft if we want to go down that road.
See below, as I’ve gone through the list of similar products. Many do not have citations and are made with a very different base. The only distinguishable similarity is the use of cinnamon. I feel if we define similar by one flavoring agent then nearly every page would have links to multiple brands.
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The article currently says "The Sazerac Company purchased the brand rights and formula from Seagram in 1989." It cites a 2014 Bloomberg article by Devin Leonard and a 2015 Motley Fool article by Travis Hoium as the sources for that. The 2017 article by Brendan Coffey, also published by Bloomberg, says "Fireball Cinnamon Whisky was just a Canada-only schnapps among a clutch of flavored Dr. Mcgillicuddy-branded drinks that Goldring bought in 2000, according to the company." Those two dates (1989 and 2000) are 11 years apart. How can we reconcile that? — BarrelProof ( talk) 19:07, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Fix ur tops 74.254.156.22 ( talk) 23:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)