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"...and soon-to-be a tidal wave."
What book will this take place in? If it's supposed to be Final Destination: Wipeout, I thought it was going to be about a private plane crashing into a beach. Or is the tidal wave going to be in some other book?
Thanks, JackOfHearts
Oh, yeah, sorry. I fixed that. From the title I thought it was. 220.237.16.234 01:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
"In contrast, some of at least two actors from each film have appeared in other films they co-starred on, including She's the Man, the remake of Black Christmas, and Wrong Turn 2. Also, many actors who were all Canadian have starred in the CTV drama, Whister." This doesn't make sense (and is probably not even relevant). Wow, that last sentence just makes this whole section completely irrelevant and a total waste of time. — AnemoneProjectors ( zomg!) 11:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Are all those statistics really important? They seem really trivial.
Oldest character per movie? Average age of actors? Ethnicity? JimmmyThePiep 02:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I completely agree.
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Started looking at these articles after "finding" them while looking for info on the 4th film. While a lot of the content looks good, there's some sections that need trimming. Most noteably is the plot summaries (definately the first and second films). WP: Plot summaries suggests no more than 500 words, which the Plot summary and somewhat redundant "Death's List" sections more than surpass. I can help trim these, as I have seen all three films so can understand what is and what isn't vital to the summary. Furthermore, I think the "Deaths" section in the main series is somewhat pointless, especially considering there doesn't seem to be any specific order to them (why is Clear's death listed before Alex even though she dies after several people in the 2nd film?) -- TRTX T / C 13:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
my edits were removed stating rules applied in the movies to cheating death. one point i made was that if someone intervenes on a targeted person's behalf, death will temporarily skip them. this appears in all the movies. the argument was, for one of my other edits, was that it was original research. in the second movie, the idea of new life cheating death is introduced. at first it is thought that it was a child being born, but the protagonist realizes its someone dying and being resusitated. after that, her and the remaining survivor are no longer targeted for monthes, only being revealed to die at the end of the third movie which is set several monthes or so later. if im only stating facts, how is it original research? and if im stating a rule that has been present in all the movies, why is it being deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Largoss ( talk • contribs) 19:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
im going by what the movie said. in the movie, tony todd's character says new life cancels death. her visions lead her to kill her self and be resusitated. everything happens as in her vision. after that death stops going after her for several monthes. it isnt my opinion if im writing how it happened in the movie and im using the movie itself as a source, which can be used in articles about movies. also, its already partiall mentioned in the article, before i mention it (the child's birth is already mentioned in the article) also, the aspect of direct intervention is mentioned in the first and second movie, and shown to still apply in the third, so how am i adding anything based on my own opinions? Largoss ( talk) 21:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Howcome there is no mentioning about the number 180? It was seen in all four films and is basically the trademark. I there needs to be something related to that in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrules4ever ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
soo last time i say FD2 i could have remembered that Eugene died first cause of the fact that the fire hit him first... just sayin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.213.166 ( talk) 06:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
That section feels a little bit fancrufty to me. Anyone else? Millahnna ( talk) 01:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Im new here so excuse me if I don't do this right, but can we add a section named "Ironies and Clues" detailing the many ironic deaths, and clues of foreshadowing and hints leading up? For example, Final Destination is almost exclusively known for the inclusion of Death's ironic deaths, and foreshadowing clues for each coming death, I think it would help if there was a section detailing each instance of comical hidden irony (such as FD5's Isaac Palmer making fun of a buddah, then ultimately being killed by a statue of one while Buddhism's main concept is karma, or FD5's Olivia Castle being killed by a car falling on her in the premonition disaster, and then being ultimately killed by falling on the same type of car). LoneLoon2013 ( talk) 22:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)LoneLoon2013
Guys can we put also their deaths i really like to see though because it is important is the cause of their deaths-- 112.198.79.240 ( talk) 10:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
This section really seems irrelevant and a bit to fanfictiony. Anyone agree? If so i'll remove. Is the cast list relevant too? Maybe it should be cut down to primary e.g. Bludworth, Clear, Alex, Carter, Kimberly, Thomas, Eugene, Wendy, Kevin, Julie, Nick, Lori, Janet, Sam, Molly and Peter. It's way to indepth including others not on deaths list which im going to cut out and leave just survivors and Bludworth for now. D4nnyw14 ( talk) 21:50, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I have noticed that on every final destination page, people keep on changing the years the movies were set. So here are the facts: Flight 180-September 25th 1999 Route 23 car crash-September 25th 2000 Devils Flight Roller coaster crash-2005 Raceway crash-2009 bridge collapse-before flight 180
Final destination 5 was wrong about Flight 180 Lightningalex1 ( talk) 14:26, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
in the first movie, the lady serving Alex says "September 25 9:25 your birthday is the same as the departure time" at the start of the second movie, the man on tv says "tomorrow marks the one year anniversary since volee air flight 180 exploded and crashed shortly after a 9:25PM takeoff". so the second movie starts exactly one year after the start of the first movie, this is also confirmed shortly before the crash, when the radio says that today is the one year aniversarry of flight 180, it is confirmed again after the crash when Kimberley talks about flight 180 at the police station. in the third movie, Kevin says to wendy that flight 180 happened six years ago. When Wendy visits Jason's tombstone at Ashley's and Ashlyn's funeral, on the tombstone it says that Jason died in 2005. 2005-6=1999 ignore what Final Destination 5 says about Flight 180 Lightningalex1 ( talk) 17:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
In part 2, there's a date on the computer that said it's the year 2001, which makes part 1 set in 2000, final Destination 3 is the one with the error, not 2 or 5. also i may add that in part 1 on Alex boarding pass it said it's 2000 on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.189.208 ( talk) 21:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC) Final Destination 5 has an error when it had May 13th on Sam's boarding pass. In the first movie, the lady serving Alex says'September 25'. So according to Final Destination 1 and 2 Flight 180 was September 25th 2000. Lightningalex1 ( talk) 20:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
could someone put a scale on the metacritic column of the ratings chart, I have no idea what the numbers mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.176.154 ( talk) 18:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: There is decisive opposition to moving The Final Destination, and no consensus on what to do with the others, defaulting to no move of any of the pages. Cúchullain t/ c 14:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
– I'm reading an article of the first installment, and I don't see how it might achieve a bigger historical significance than the film series itself. Also, the films, with slight exception of Final Destination 2, do not continue characters at all. Instead, they appear in their own films. It's not like The Matrix or Die Hard. But if "Final Destination" has no primary topic, then the film series, like Star Wars, can be the primary topic at default. As for the fourth installment, its title is confusing because I almost assumed it as the first installment. To let you know, the first film gets more views than the film series, but stats of first film is harder to determine because the rates are about the same as the film series. George Ho ( talk) 21:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I know that Final Destination 5 was set before the events of the other films, but would it not make more sense to have the films arranged in the order they were released, rather than when they were set? It took place first in the universe of the movies, but it was the latest one for us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SnowyNight1234 ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 19:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
– Last year's request was too precise, especially for both the 2000 film and The Final Destination (2009). This time, we leave out the 2009 film and deal with just the film series and the 2000 film instead. Sounds good? Last year, the 2000 film may have greater numbers than the film series. However, in the last 90 days, the 2000 film is less viewed than the film series; same for this month ( series, 2000 film). Google results show first film, fifth film, and upcoming sixth film in the first page. The film itself isn't as significant as the film series. In fact, the idea/story of characters escaping death and becoming dead in every film is more significant than specific characters escaping from the plane. Per WP:DABCONCEPT and WP:SIA, we can avoid creating a redundant disambiguation page by making the film series a general concept. Perhaps if "Final Destination (film)" doesn't sound good, how about Final Destination (2000 film)? --Relisted. Steel1943 ( talk) 07:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC) George Ho ( talk) 00:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Per WP:DABCONCEPT, chances of disambiguation page redundant to the page of the broad concept should be very small. Of course, if the film series becomes the main topic, the disambiguation page would not have a chance to be kept. George Ho ( talk) 14:33, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
From what I've seen a consensus has not really been reached on this page. The use of "film series" is more appropriate since all other film series that are on Wikipedia either have "(film series)" or "(franchise)" in their title, and I have yet to see an article about one that doesn't. This move is very impractical. And actually, the current stats state that the 2000 film's page was viewed more times than the series' in the past 90/30 days. -- Christensens ( talk) 16:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Isn't this more of a disaster genre than horror? EauZenCashHaveIt ( I'm All Ears) 09:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
"...and soon-to-be a tidal wave."
What book will this take place in? If it's supposed to be Final Destination: Wipeout, I thought it was going to be about a private plane crashing into a beach. Or is the tidal wave going to be in some other book?
Thanks, JackOfHearts
Oh, yeah, sorry. I fixed that. From the title I thought it was. 220.237.16.234 01:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
"In contrast, some of at least two actors from each film have appeared in other films they co-starred on, including She's the Man, the remake of Black Christmas, and Wrong Turn 2. Also, many actors who were all Canadian have starred in the CTV drama, Whister." This doesn't make sense (and is probably not even relevant). Wow, that last sentence just makes this whole section completely irrelevant and a total waste of time. — AnemoneProjectors ( zomg!) 11:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Are all those statistics really important? They seem really trivial.
Oldest character per movie? Average age of actors? Ethnicity? JimmmyThePiep 02:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I completely agree.
ONEder Boy (
talk)
04:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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Started looking at these articles after "finding" them while looking for info on the 4th film. While a lot of the content looks good, there's some sections that need trimming. Most noteably is the plot summaries (definately the first and second films). WP: Plot summaries suggests no more than 500 words, which the Plot summary and somewhat redundant "Death's List" sections more than surpass. I can help trim these, as I have seen all three films so can understand what is and what isn't vital to the summary. Furthermore, I think the "Deaths" section in the main series is somewhat pointless, especially considering there doesn't seem to be any specific order to them (why is Clear's death listed before Alex even though she dies after several people in the 2nd film?) -- TRTX T / C 13:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
my edits were removed stating rules applied in the movies to cheating death. one point i made was that if someone intervenes on a targeted person's behalf, death will temporarily skip them. this appears in all the movies. the argument was, for one of my other edits, was that it was original research. in the second movie, the idea of new life cheating death is introduced. at first it is thought that it was a child being born, but the protagonist realizes its someone dying and being resusitated. after that, her and the remaining survivor are no longer targeted for monthes, only being revealed to die at the end of the third movie which is set several monthes or so later. if im only stating facts, how is it original research? and if im stating a rule that has been present in all the movies, why is it being deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Largoss ( talk • contribs) 19:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
im going by what the movie said. in the movie, tony todd's character says new life cancels death. her visions lead her to kill her self and be resusitated. everything happens as in her vision. after that death stops going after her for several monthes. it isnt my opinion if im writing how it happened in the movie and im using the movie itself as a source, which can be used in articles about movies. also, its already partiall mentioned in the article, before i mention it (the child's birth is already mentioned in the article) also, the aspect of direct intervention is mentioned in the first and second movie, and shown to still apply in the third, so how am i adding anything based on my own opinions? Largoss ( talk) 21:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Howcome there is no mentioning about the number 180? It was seen in all four films and is basically the trademark. I there needs to be something related to that in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrules4ever ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
soo last time i say FD2 i could have remembered that Eugene died first cause of the fact that the fire hit him first... just sayin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.213.166 ( talk) 06:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
That section feels a little bit fancrufty to me. Anyone else? Millahnna ( talk) 01:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Im new here so excuse me if I don't do this right, but can we add a section named "Ironies and Clues" detailing the many ironic deaths, and clues of foreshadowing and hints leading up? For example, Final Destination is almost exclusively known for the inclusion of Death's ironic deaths, and foreshadowing clues for each coming death, I think it would help if there was a section detailing each instance of comical hidden irony (such as FD5's Isaac Palmer making fun of a buddah, then ultimately being killed by a statue of one while Buddhism's main concept is karma, or FD5's Olivia Castle being killed by a car falling on her in the premonition disaster, and then being ultimately killed by falling on the same type of car). LoneLoon2013 ( talk) 22:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)LoneLoon2013
Guys can we put also their deaths i really like to see though because it is important is the cause of their deaths-- 112.198.79.240 ( talk) 10:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
This section really seems irrelevant and a bit to fanfictiony. Anyone agree? If so i'll remove. Is the cast list relevant too? Maybe it should be cut down to primary e.g. Bludworth, Clear, Alex, Carter, Kimberly, Thomas, Eugene, Wendy, Kevin, Julie, Nick, Lori, Janet, Sam, Molly and Peter. It's way to indepth including others not on deaths list which im going to cut out and leave just survivors and Bludworth for now. D4nnyw14 ( talk) 21:50, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I have noticed that on every final destination page, people keep on changing the years the movies were set. So here are the facts: Flight 180-September 25th 1999 Route 23 car crash-September 25th 2000 Devils Flight Roller coaster crash-2005 Raceway crash-2009 bridge collapse-before flight 180
Final destination 5 was wrong about Flight 180 Lightningalex1 ( talk) 14:26, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
in the first movie, the lady serving Alex says "September 25 9:25 your birthday is the same as the departure time" at the start of the second movie, the man on tv says "tomorrow marks the one year anniversary since volee air flight 180 exploded and crashed shortly after a 9:25PM takeoff". so the second movie starts exactly one year after the start of the first movie, this is also confirmed shortly before the crash, when the radio says that today is the one year aniversarry of flight 180, it is confirmed again after the crash when Kimberley talks about flight 180 at the police station. in the third movie, Kevin says to wendy that flight 180 happened six years ago. When Wendy visits Jason's tombstone at Ashley's and Ashlyn's funeral, on the tombstone it says that Jason died in 2005. 2005-6=1999 ignore what Final Destination 5 says about Flight 180 Lightningalex1 ( talk) 17:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
In part 2, there's a date on the computer that said it's the year 2001, which makes part 1 set in 2000, final Destination 3 is the one with the error, not 2 or 5. also i may add that in part 1 on Alex boarding pass it said it's 2000 on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.189.208 ( talk) 21:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC) Final Destination 5 has an error when it had May 13th on Sam's boarding pass. In the first movie, the lady serving Alex says'September 25'. So according to Final Destination 1 and 2 Flight 180 was September 25th 2000. Lightningalex1 ( talk) 20:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
could someone put a scale on the metacritic column of the ratings chart, I have no idea what the numbers mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.176.154 ( talk) 18:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: There is decisive opposition to moving The Final Destination, and no consensus on what to do with the others, defaulting to no move of any of the pages. Cúchullain t/ c 14:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
– I'm reading an article of the first installment, and I don't see how it might achieve a bigger historical significance than the film series itself. Also, the films, with slight exception of Final Destination 2, do not continue characters at all. Instead, they appear in their own films. It's not like The Matrix or Die Hard. But if "Final Destination" has no primary topic, then the film series, like Star Wars, can be the primary topic at default. As for the fourth installment, its title is confusing because I almost assumed it as the first installment. To let you know, the first film gets more views than the film series, but stats of first film is harder to determine because the rates are about the same as the film series. George Ho ( talk) 21:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I know that Final Destination 5 was set before the events of the other films, but would it not make more sense to have the films arranged in the order they were released, rather than when they were set? It took place first in the universe of the movies, but it was the latest one for us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SnowyNight1234 ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 19:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
– Last year's request was too precise, especially for both the 2000 film and The Final Destination (2009). This time, we leave out the 2009 film and deal with just the film series and the 2000 film instead. Sounds good? Last year, the 2000 film may have greater numbers than the film series. However, in the last 90 days, the 2000 film is less viewed than the film series; same for this month ( series, 2000 film). Google results show first film, fifth film, and upcoming sixth film in the first page. The film itself isn't as significant as the film series. In fact, the idea/story of characters escaping death and becoming dead in every film is more significant than specific characters escaping from the plane. Per WP:DABCONCEPT and WP:SIA, we can avoid creating a redundant disambiguation page by making the film series a general concept. Perhaps if "Final Destination (film)" doesn't sound good, how about Final Destination (2000 film)? --Relisted. Steel1943 ( talk) 07:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC) George Ho ( talk) 00:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Per WP:DABCONCEPT, chances of disambiguation page redundant to the page of the broad concept should be very small. Of course, if the film series becomes the main topic, the disambiguation page would not have a chance to be kept. George Ho ( talk) 14:33, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
From what I've seen a consensus has not really been reached on this page. The use of "film series" is more appropriate since all other film series that are on Wikipedia either have "(film series)" or "(franchise)" in their title, and I have yet to see an article about one that doesn't. This move is very impractical. And actually, the current stats state that the 2000 film's page was viewed more times than the series' in the past 90/30 days. -- Christensens ( talk) 16:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Isn't this more of a disaster genre than horror? EauZenCashHaveIt ( I'm All Ears) 09:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)