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This page could really use some clarification between an online backup service and a file hosting service. Either that, or Mozy is mistakenly listed as an FHS when it's more properly a backup service.
I've whipped this article into shape and made it part of the new Internet hosting service series. — Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-12 23:42 Z
Thank you.
Free online file storage/sending
lists about 50 places with online file storage.
Is that link "too commercial"?
--
DavidCary
00:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
moved to:
Free online file storage/sending
Does YouTube.com count as commercial? It's free to upload videos. Kernow 23:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Policy says to avoid linking to "Sites that primarily exist to sell products or services." Kernow 00:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
A site like www.bitprophet.com offers it's service for free, but has the occasional ad.
Well then.
Any chance of adding such a page, using the above link?
Not including things like rapidshare, as that isn't really a free service.
83.250.32.185
16:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
As file hosting includes content like media the document should be integrated into file hosting as a "sub topic".
Andrew Fraser 20:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Upload4Free is not link spam as:
1.) Upload4Free is free to use, and contains no popups. 2.) Wikipedia links are nofollow 3.) The site is used for representational / demonstration purposes only. 4.) The site contains no adult content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Biars ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC).
That ExtremeTech link is a good review of some current offerings -- glad it survived this long. [1] - 69.87.203.254 18:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
this is the link im talking about:
Let's tell the tale of the Comparison of the one-click hosters:
Once upon a time (2006) there was an article on wikipedia called Comparison of the one-click hosters. This is it's history. As you can see in the revisions, it was an extensive comparison table. At some point (around october 2006) it is put up for articles for deletion. The result is keep. Please have a look at this AfD.
One year later... ...two users Hu12 and Boffob decide that only One-click Hosters with wikipedia articles must be included in the table, because anything else is spam, spam and spam. They start an editing war against the rest of the community, which lasts all the way till June 6th 2008, when Hu12 conveniently settles the argument by deleting the page, it's history, it's talk page and by redirecting it into File Hosting Service and protecting that redirection as per CSD:G6. Point final. All them damn spammers trying to make wikipedia a useful place. Give the boy another medal! Thanks Hu12.
But what about me? I had been using this list all the time through, not noticing anything of the war that was going on. On 6th of June, I noticed that this list was no longer there. Neither it's history, nothing. I thought bugger. That they delete it is one thing, but that there is no way to get to this info anymore is quite problematic. So I started searching and ended up filing this deletion review. You see, if you quickly need to get a file accross to someone, you can end up in all sorts of adventures taking hours of your otherwise useless time.
So, Hu12 restored the history of the page, not the page itself, not it's talk page. How all that part of the wikocracy works was explained by Daniel on my talk page. I thought fine, at least I have this info back. I don't care where it is, as long as it's not gone. And I don't feel connected to wikipedia at all, so I don't feel like having discussion like this with other users consuming all my otherwise useless time. Thus I put in practice If all else fails, try another wiki.
So far so good, but...
I would like to ask you ( Dicklyon) to pick a (re)solution from the following sensible options:
After all that has been going on all these years, I think that asking just a link to the content for all the people that come looking for it is no more than reasonable. If you can find any other suitable options, Please go for it, but silencing this information is this manner is definitely not authoritative, but authoritarian. As im not a wikipedian, im not going to revert your edit, and leave the decision making process up to you. Thus ends my plea for sensibility.
If I want to quickly upload a file for others to download, not only is it important to me these other people have one-click access, it's important I as the uploader have it too.
I would like to argue that you can't get a full line of "green bars" if this isn't true.
Therefore I propose we add this as a criteria/column.
As it is, the SteekR offering looks as easy as MediaFire etc, but I found I couldn't upload files without creating an account, which automatically disqualified the site for me. I believe the comparison should benefit from being able to discern this right away.
Opinions on this? CapnZapp ( talk) 15:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
its been one and a half year since file mirroring started and yet there is no article or comparison of the service providers. i am writing in the discussion bcoz its going to be my first major edit to wikipedia and i hope i have support from the wiki pandits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.250.139 ( talk) 07:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The 3 sites below are missing from the list
depositfiles redirects here but the article does not talk about it
213.140.22.68 (
talk)
09:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Ziddu (ziddu.com) is added in the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.108.234 ( talk) 00:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Id like to see some history of one click hosting. Maybe when and if how rapidshare.com came to be the most popular? What happen to rapidshare.de etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.135.37 ( talk) 01:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I was missing mention of scp/rsync. I think this is what many advanced users need and which allows automated (command line) syncronization between many applications via a remote server. I finally found what I needed in slashdot answers to the question Best Online Remote Backup Service w/Linux Client?. Ben T/ C 19:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I believe this section as it is today is a bad idea for Wikipedia.
In general, lists like this are Bad Things. Wikipedia is not a shopping guide, but an encyclopedia. Lists need to be things like: members on a team, largest cities. Lists of suppliers of service are advertising and don't belong here.
The article needs to focus on File hosting service, rather than providers of it.
The section, if it needs to be here, would need to be prose, and would need to cover services that had a GREAT impact on the subject. I strongly believe this needs to go, right away. I will look up the appropriate flag (probably something about advertising), and flag the section. If no one objects, I am going to kill it pretty quick. sinneed ( talk) 01:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
4shared is missing. This is a good 1 for file hosting.---- Cool BD ( talk) 10:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I guess I don't know how this site works. I thought that I could edit something and then if the editors find it relevant it is allowed to stay. I am with TrueShare.com, an online file hosting service. I have added my company information a couple times and it keeps getting removed. We have been in this field for 7 years and feel we deserve to be listed. Can you please let me know what I am to do? mitch@trueshare.com
Thanks, Mitch Matt TrueShare.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.248.244.15 ( talk) 19:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello Haakon, we do have a wikipedia article at Trueshare.com. Can you please provide me with some guidance as to how we can be accepted as notable by Wikipedia editors? Thanks for your assistance!
Tsmitchman (
talk)
20:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a second look Haakon. In keeping with COI best practice, and for the information of all, I would like to state that I am a representative of SYSTEN, L.L.C. dba/TrueShare.com and have added their entry to this page. The information listed is accurate to the subjects discussed and not biased towards the company I represent. Thanks. Tsmitchman ( talk) 12:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Should include information on meta-upload engines or file-spreaders like uploadjockey, rapidspread, load2all, and the zoom file uploader —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camrn86 ( talk • contribs) 22:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Now that Google Docs allows uploading of any file type with 1GB free, I think we should add a section of the table for Google Docs. I am not good with wiki tables, otherwise I would do this, but if anyone feels up to it... Just throwing it out there. 74.177.153.190 ( talk) 04:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
There have been several suggestions for the columns of the comparison table. I think it's a useful thing to have. Needs maintenance, and the world is changing so this needs to change with it. My suggestions are:
Current column | Suggestion | Reason |
---|---|---|
Web Host | Branding | Not necessarily the DNS host name |
Language | Delete | No benefit in this information; save space. |
Storage size | keep | Important |
Max. file size | delete? | Seems like a side effect of storage size, etc. |
Direct access | Rename to "Obstacles" or similar. | Mention adverts too. |
Traffic/bandwidth limit | Keep | Important. |
File expiration | Keep | Important for some services. |
Misc. notes | Delete, move info to other columns | This information can be categorised, or should be on another page. |
Remote Uploading? | Delete | What use is this? |
Developer API? | Keep (or rename) | Important, but not a good name (which I wrote) |
Table-entries (Added or Revised) Date (YYYY-MM-DD) | Delete | Not very useful. Look in the history. |
Access control | Add | Public downloads? User lists? Groups? |
Fees | Add | Important; many are not free now. |
--- Rixs ( talk) 10:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The term "One-Click Hoster" for this is rather poplar, I thought. I've also read "cyberlocker" once but not one of the other terms mentioned in the summary. What do you think? 84.131.234.178 ( talk) 22:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
-Removed and replaced dead link. (March 8, 2007) - Biars
SkyDrive does not Support Remote Upload...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.99.255.31 ( talk) 12:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we add an open source column to to table? I thought wau.la used to be open source, but is close source now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BRAINedit ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
The last part of this article appears to discuss colocation - definition, benefits, etc. While that's a great topic, it appears to not be part of *this* article, which is about file hosting services. I think that discussion of colocation should be moved to a different page where it would be more topical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.136.68.194 ( talk) 20:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel that collocation has to be discussed separately. If it is to be introduced here, it should be in connection with file hosting —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.199.174 ( talk) 05:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I've added a section on security intended to cover key security issues related to cloud storage, especially encryption. Probably needs beefing out on the datacenter & hardware aspects. OzLind ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I have designed a website and tested it but I really need to upload it to a server so other users can reach it and access it so I just need to know how can I do that please thank you all TheSoftwareguy ( talk) 12:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
The Daily Mail is not the most reliable of sources, and its article [1] on the selling of members' pictures by Facebook is an example why. Facebook needs to be able to show members' uploaded pictures to other members, hence the terms and conditions agreement, but it can not sell them without the owner's permission. [2] - Oniscoid 01:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
This page could really use some clarification between an online backup service and a file hosting service. Either that, or Mozy is mistakenly listed as an FHS when it's more properly a backup service.
I've whipped this article into shape and made it part of the new Internet hosting service series. — Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-12 23:42 Z
Thank you.
Free online file storage/sending
lists about 50 places with online file storage.
Is that link "too commercial"?
--
DavidCary
00:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
moved to:
Free online file storage/sending
Does YouTube.com count as commercial? It's free to upload videos. Kernow 23:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Policy says to avoid linking to "Sites that primarily exist to sell products or services." Kernow 00:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
A site like www.bitprophet.com offers it's service for free, but has the occasional ad.
Well then.
Any chance of adding such a page, using the above link?
Not including things like rapidshare, as that isn't really a free service.
83.250.32.185
16:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
As file hosting includes content like media the document should be integrated into file hosting as a "sub topic".
Andrew Fraser 20:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Upload4Free is not link spam as:
1.) Upload4Free is free to use, and contains no popups. 2.) Wikipedia links are nofollow 3.) The site is used for representational / demonstration purposes only. 4.) The site contains no adult content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Biars ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC).
That ExtremeTech link is a good review of some current offerings -- glad it survived this long. [1] - 69.87.203.254 18:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
this is the link im talking about:
Let's tell the tale of the Comparison of the one-click hosters:
Once upon a time (2006) there was an article on wikipedia called Comparison of the one-click hosters. This is it's history. As you can see in the revisions, it was an extensive comparison table. At some point (around october 2006) it is put up for articles for deletion. The result is keep. Please have a look at this AfD.
One year later... ...two users Hu12 and Boffob decide that only One-click Hosters with wikipedia articles must be included in the table, because anything else is spam, spam and spam. They start an editing war against the rest of the community, which lasts all the way till June 6th 2008, when Hu12 conveniently settles the argument by deleting the page, it's history, it's talk page and by redirecting it into File Hosting Service and protecting that redirection as per CSD:G6. Point final. All them damn spammers trying to make wikipedia a useful place. Give the boy another medal! Thanks Hu12.
But what about me? I had been using this list all the time through, not noticing anything of the war that was going on. On 6th of June, I noticed that this list was no longer there. Neither it's history, nothing. I thought bugger. That they delete it is one thing, but that there is no way to get to this info anymore is quite problematic. So I started searching and ended up filing this deletion review. You see, if you quickly need to get a file accross to someone, you can end up in all sorts of adventures taking hours of your otherwise useless time.
So, Hu12 restored the history of the page, not the page itself, not it's talk page. How all that part of the wikocracy works was explained by Daniel on my talk page. I thought fine, at least I have this info back. I don't care where it is, as long as it's not gone. And I don't feel connected to wikipedia at all, so I don't feel like having discussion like this with other users consuming all my otherwise useless time. Thus I put in practice If all else fails, try another wiki.
So far so good, but...
I would like to ask you ( Dicklyon) to pick a (re)solution from the following sensible options:
After all that has been going on all these years, I think that asking just a link to the content for all the people that come looking for it is no more than reasonable. If you can find any other suitable options, Please go for it, but silencing this information is this manner is definitely not authoritative, but authoritarian. As im not a wikipedian, im not going to revert your edit, and leave the decision making process up to you. Thus ends my plea for sensibility.
If I want to quickly upload a file for others to download, not only is it important to me these other people have one-click access, it's important I as the uploader have it too.
I would like to argue that you can't get a full line of "green bars" if this isn't true.
Therefore I propose we add this as a criteria/column.
As it is, the SteekR offering looks as easy as MediaFire etc, but I found I couldn't upload files without creating an account, which automatically disqualified the site for me. I believe the comparison should benefit from being able to discern this right away.
Opinions on this? CapnZapp ( talk) 15:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
its been one and a half year since file mirroring started and yet there is no article or comparison of the service providers. i am writing in the discussion bcoz its going to be my first major edit to wikipedia and i hope i have support from the wiki pandits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.250.139 ( talk) 07:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The 3 sites below are missing from the list
depositfiles redirects here but the article does not talk about it
213.140.22.68 (
talk)
09:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Ziddu (ziddu.com) is added in the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.108.234 ( talk) 00:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Id like to see some history of one click hosting. Maybe when and if how rapidshare.com came to be the most popular? What happen to rapidshare.de etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.135.37 ( talk) 01:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I was missing mention of scp/rsync. I think this is what many advanced users need and which allows automated (command line) syncronization between many applications via a remote server. I finally found what I needed in slashdot answers to the question Best Online Remote Backup Service w/Linux Client?. Ben T/ C 19:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I believe this section as it is today is a bad idea for Wikipedia.
In general, lists like this are Bad Things. Wikipedia is not a shopping guide, but an encyclopedia. Lists need to be things like: members on a team, largest cities. Lists of suppliers of service are advertising and don't belong here.
The article needs to focus on File hosting service, rather than providers of it.
The section, if it needs to be here, would need to be prose, and would need to cover services that had a GREAT impact on the subject. I strongly believe this needs to go, right away. I will look up the appropriate flag (probably something about advertising), and flag the section. If no one objects, I am going to kill it pretty quick. sinneed ( talk) 01:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
4shared is missing. This is a good 1 for file hosting.---- Cool BD ( talk) 10:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I guess I don't know how this site works. I thought that I could edit something and then if the editors find it relevant it is allowed to stay. I am with TrueShare.com, an online file hosting service. I have added my company information a couple times and it keeps getting removed. We have been in this field for 7 years and feel we deserve to be listed. Can you please let me know what I am to do? mitch@trueshare.com
Thanks, Mitch Matt TrueShare.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.248.244.15 ( talk) 19:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello Haakon, we do have a wikipedia article at Trueshare.com. Can you please provide me with some guidance as to how we can be accepted as notable by Wikipedia editors? Thanks for your assistance!
Tsmitchman (
talk)
20:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a second look Haakon. In keeping with COI best practice, and for the information of all, I would like to state that I am a representative of SYSTEN, L.L.C. dba/TrueShare.com and have added their entry to this page. The information listed is accurate to the subjects discussed and not biased towards the company I represent. Thanks. Tsmitchman ( talk) 12:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Should include information on meta-upload engines or file-spreaders like uploadjockey, rapidspread, load2all, and the zoom file uploader —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camrn86 ( talk • contribs) 22:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Now that Google Docs allows uploading of any file type with 1GB free, I think we should add a section of the table for Google Docs. I am not good with wiki tables, otherwise I would do this, but if anyone feels up to it... Just throwing it out there. 74.177.153.190 ( talk) 04:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
There have been several suggestions for the columns of the comparison table. I think it's a useful thing to have. Needs maintenance, and the world is changing so this needs to change with it. My suggestions are:
Current column | Suggestion | Reason |
---|---|---|
Web Host | Branding | Not necessarily the DNS host name |
Language | Delete | No benefit in this information; save space. |
Storage size | keep | Important |
Max. file size | delete? | Seems like a side effect of storage size, etc. |
Direct access | Rename to "Obstacles" or similar. | Mention adverts too. |
Traffic/bandwidth limit | Keep | Important. |
File expiration | Keep | Important for some services. |
Misc. notes | Delete, move info to other columns | This information can be categorised, or should be on another page. |
Remote Uploading? | Delete | What use is this? |
Developer API? | Keep (or rename) | Important, but not a good name (which I wrote) |
Table-entries (Added or Revised) Date (YYYY-MM-DD) | Delete | Not very useful. Look in the history. |
Access control | Add | Public downloads? User lists? Groups? |
Fees | Add | Important; many are not free now. |
--- Rixs ( talk) 10:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The term "One-Click Hoster" for this is rather poplar, I thought. I've also read "cyberlocker" once but not one of the other terms mentioned in the summary. What do you think? 84.131.234.178 ( talk) 22:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
-Removed and replaced dead link. (March 8, 2007) - Biars
SkyDrive does not Support Remote Upload...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.99.255.31 ( talk) 12:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we add an open source column to to table? I thought wau.la used to be open source, but is close source now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BRAINedit ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
The last part of this article appears to discuss colocation - definition, benefits, etc. While that's a great topic, it appears to not be part of *this* article, which is about file hosting services. I think that discussion of colocation should be moved to a different page where it would be more topical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.136.68.194 ( talk) 20:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel that collocation has to be discussed separately. If it is to be introduced here, it should be in connection with file hosting —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.199.174 ( talk) 05:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I've added a section on security intended to cover key security issues related to cloud storage, especially encryption. Probably needs beefing out on the datacenter & hardware aspects. OzLind ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I have designed a website and tested it but I really need to upload it to a server so other users can reach it and access it so I just need to know how can I do that please thank you all TheSoftwareguy ( talk) 12:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
The Daily Mail is not the most reliable of sources, and its article [1] on the selling of members' pictures by Facebook is an example why. Facebook needs to be able to show members' uploaded pictures to other members, hence the terms and conditions agreement, but it can not sell them without the owner's permission. [2] - Oniscoid 01:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Which file hosting service has indefinite free space? (not paid user) -- 111.14.130.106 ( talk) 11:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Comparison of one-click hosters. The discussion will occur at
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