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Regarding the introduction, I'm not sure whether field hockey is that much more common than ice hockey in Korea. I'm Korean, and I've often wondered myself which sport Koreans think of when they hear the word "hockey". It might even be that more people think of ice hockey when they hear the word, in spite of the fact that our field hockey teams are infinitely better than our ice hockey teams. Or it may just be because my high school was an ice-hockey-playing school. For now I'll add Korea alongside Germany there... -- Iceager 10:32, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I removed the bit about it being the Indian and Pakistani national sport. By any sensible definition, cricket is the national sport of both countries, as anybody from a fellow cricket-playing nation who has spent 30 seconds talking to a citizen of either country would know. They are not that strong in international competition either since the widespread introduction of synthetic fields in the 1980's. -- Robert Merkel 22:10, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The title 'Field Hockey' will avoid the problem of those only interested in ice-hockey making 'hits' on the article and then, probably, complaining about others wasting their time, but using Field Hockey as a title excludes indoor hockey - 'indoor field hockey' is an absurdity (there may be an indoor field surface for hockey but I don't know of one).
Hockey (field); Hockey (indoor); Hockey (roller); Hockey (street) and Hockey (ice), if there isn't a seperate article for Ice Hockey might be workable; it is at least a systematic approach. ZigZag ( talk) 16:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it lacks a kind of history: Persian origin, big evolution of the rules (I remember, my grand-father used to throw the ball with the hand the put the ball back into to the pitch !), introduction and spreading of synthetic fields, ... I will start something that way, if everybody agrees. Any ideas welcomed. Lvr 08:41, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have written the first two chapters of history, at Field hockey history. Do not hesitate to rephrase my poor English. Lvr 14:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
They are a couple of stuff that were removed from this page:
Why has this been removed. Shouldn't it be convenient to bring it back. See: this old page. Lvr 16:43, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have plan to add a section with
Lvr 14:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I've put in a proposal to create a hockey portal - that way we can get all the hockey articles into one format etc. If anyone has any suggestions, then lets all get our minds together and work it through! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals#Portal:Field_Hockey Cheers Nunners -- Nunners 20:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed this Summer Sport Category. I guess it depends of the general weather of each country. Here in Central Europe, we won't play hockey during the summer because it's too hot ! We play it in automn, winter (except for a few weeks) and lent. Lvr 09:14, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi there,
i am from northern ireland and i am a keen player of the sport.I have been playing since I was very young along with my family who also play. My brother and I have got to a good standard,my brother represented ireland and under age levels and i got a trial for under 16. But the sport here takes a back seat to other sports like rugby and I feel that when I have watched my brother play against teams like the dutch, spanish and germans that they are far superior and wonder is this due to hockey being a popular sport or that the players are just simpply better and have good coaching from a young age? Jc22 19:08, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree with 155.69.5.235 modification to replace South Korea by Spain. In the FIH ranking for September 2005, Spain is 4th (men) en 10th (women), while Korea is 7th (men), 9th (women). I reput Spain instead of South Korea, which is already listed further in the artile. Lvr 09:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Regarding Malaysia, please check the above FIH rankink link: Malaysia is merley 14th in the world for men and is not ranked in 12 first nations for women ! If we include Malaysia, we should include beforehand other countries like South Korea, Poland, ... even my own Belgium !
This external link has been moved to the field hockey history article. Please don't add it here again. Lvr 09:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
The conversion to metric units is slightly more complicated than given here. The dotted line is 5m from the circle line, not 5 yards (4.55m), similarly new pitches, or remarking of existing pitches, is supposed to give the attacker's and defender's PC marks being 5m and 10m from the inside of the goal posts, rather than 5 and 10 yards, and the long corner mark is 5m from the backline. Also the marks 5m from the sidelines on the 23m lines and centre lines are no longer required. See pages 14-17 of the FIH Rules of Hockey I'm not sure how best to word this (which is why I haven't edited it), perhaps something along the lines of units were originally in whole numbers of yards, these have generally been changed to the exact metric equivalents, with the exception of some 5 and 10 yard distances which have been increased to exactly 5 and 10 metres
"Hurling dates to before 1272 BC." This is dubious. While the article points out that games like field hockey have a long history going back to ancient Egypt, one would like to see a reference supporting the claim on hurling. Who was writing about the Irish in 1272 BC? Or was it their Celtic ancestors in the Balkans? Axel 14:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AxelHarvey ( talk • contribs)
As an umpire I can see no justification for the 3m distance given for deciding on dangerous play on shots at goal, the only references in the rulebook are to 5m. I've not edited immediately as the whole concept of danger as related to shots on goal can get a bit heated, as can be seen on any of the hockey web forums. David Underdown
Well, since an anon had made some changes to this anyway, I have made a few changes myself now. In doing so, I've also realised that we don't currently explain what a hit, push etc are and the differences between them, don't want to end up copying large chunks of the rules though. David Underdown 16:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Isn't that POV David?. On a hockey forum we can at least assume some knowledge of the subject from contributors (except perhaps when they are in their early teens). An encyclopedia may be merely a comparative reference for those playing other sport or not involved in sport at all.
I put my previous contribution up in the discussion page for some days before placing it in the article because I found previous contributions deleted. My experience has been that even well accepted practice in hockey is considered POV and (wrongly)even a criticism of existing rule because of the way it is phrased rather than because of the facts stated.
What aspect of the 5m "cut off" is resolved? Sorry to be late to the subject of the article but I will go through any page in any subject that I choose to and make additions or alterations where I feel that to be appropriate. I have never gone along with the theory that the first speaker is correct or right or even that they are telling the truth, in many instances it is obviously not so. You were kind enough to remove my "excessive and unnecessary use of italics" in a previous post (POV? But thanks) I have corrected your spelling of 'dubious'. 92.14.47.81 ( talk) 18:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Underdown ( talk) 09:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Good grief David, you and I both know that the rules governing the dangerously lifted ball are far from perfect: as an NPHL umpire you could 'validate' that comment. Although I have not the level of experience of Charlesworth, I too have been an international hockey coach, as well as an umpire and know enough about the application of the rules of hockey to make valid comment on a talk page. Charlesworth has been outspoken in his criticism of the rules about the lifted ball but I feel that his article, which I could no doubt find, would not fit well into a general article about hockey, even as a reference it might just cause confusion among those not very familiar with the game.
I feel that if you did not know me very well through the various hockey fora where we have exchanged views you would not have bothered with these 'corrections'. There are certainly more glaring errors than mine in the article and I note that you have previously written that you do not have time to make structured contribution to it - but you have time to waste 'correcting' me even though you know I was correct.
I bow to your instructions concerning the use of italics. ZigZag ( talk) 12:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I have come across the verification problem in an article in another area David and all I can do there is to take the time to go through that article and strip out all that I see as unverifiable - which will improve it but not add anything to it - and will be a complete waste of time.
In this article, which is far less emotive, there is as you say not a great deal that is useful published (in fact I would argue with much of what is published) and certainly a reading of the rules gives little insight into the application of them, which is what I was trying to do: so we are 'up the creek without a paddle'
I am the ZigZag that you will also have known as Conundrum on the now defunct HockeyWeb forum and the FHF, the one who invented that peculiar stick and thinks elbow height should be used as a limiting height for a lifted hit in the outfield and for a drag flick at a penalty corner (among sixty-four other changes)- and if that information in addition to my writing style hasn't identified me, IM me at TalkingHockey and I will respond. ZigZag ( talk) 23:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay David I misunderstood this "I know who you are, or at least I can assume I do, based on your username - if you think about it I have no real way of being certain of the point,.." as uncertainty. So where do we go from here? Not much is verifiable from published sources outside of the Rules of Hockey and Umpires Briefing except perhaps what David Whittaker, Ric Charlesworth, Horse Wein, John Gawley and various journalists have written - and much of that is opinion. Where do we start? At the moment much of the article seems to be put together by American High School or College students who are unfamiliar with FIH rules and the application of them and who have perhaps never played or seen hockey played on any surface except natural grass - a distant memory at most levels of european hockey. ZigZag ( talk) 21:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
In addition to your response a new rule is under review where it will be required that all players wear face masks to help protect their faces. Bfowler513 ( talk) 22:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)Bfowler513
It might be helpful to think about John Smith (Labour Party leader). Within that article, he gets called "John Smith" in the lead, and "Smith" thereafter, even though there are many other people called Smith or John Smith. Similarly, within the article called "Field hockey", it makes sense to refer to the game as "hockey" as that it what the governing body calls it: we don't need to distinguish it from ice hockey or other forms of hockey within this article. Hope that helps. Pam D 19:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I agree--I think using the term 'hockey' after makes the most sense. Ice hockey should as well! I've played both sports and have refereed to them as simply 'hockey' in different contexts. I also think the article could use a section of the different levels of field hockey (high school, division I II II, professional, olympic) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chickey13 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't the page title be Hockey rather than Field Hockey? Kniwor ( talk) 06:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Should the Green Card section be updated to reflect current International rules ? (2 minutes in the sin bin). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.22.159 ( talk) 04:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
This article and other similar Wikipedia articles refer to the version of the game that has been taken up as being originated by "Middlesex" clubs - (namely Teddington, Richmond and Surbiton).
While Teddington is indeed in Middlesex, Richmond and Surbiton are in Surrey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.50.108.223 ( talk) 12:49, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
General Play rules need to be updated. Recent changes have been made to the rules such as the self-start rule, and how there are no longer long hits. Tfinnn ( talk) 18:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
There is a tiny pocket in Florida, a larger but still insignificant in Georgia (Atlanta). Not aware of any in Alabama or Mississippi. There is some in North Carolina. There is some in California, and Colorado. There is women's collegiate hockey. I think the reference to Southern States should be removed. By tiny in Florida, I'm talking < 100 people who may less than semi-regularly. No organized leagues in GA, FL, AL, Mississippi. Nicolas.hammond ( talk) 02:31, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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"A field hockey ball with a 5 franc coin" . . . what 5 franc? The Cameroonian franc? The Guadeloupe franc? More importantly, how big are those 5 franc coins, and how many people are familiar with them?
In fact, does anyone have a ball and a ruler that they can photograph together; that would be helpful. Nick Barnett ( talk) 13:10, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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So firstly, the (apparently) pro-ice-hockey edits of the IPv6 editor were obviously helpful and true.
That said, I do not see any need for "known in most countries". Even if it is true, which is not clear to me (note also that it is unsourced), it feels like a gratuitous slap at North Americans and at ice hockey. Ice hockey is also "known as hockey" where it is played (an earlier edit opined that calling ice hockey "hockey" was the same as calling water polo "polo", but this is demonstrably not true; water polo players and fans do not call it "polo", but ice hockey players and fans do call it "hockey").
Separately, I am unable to follow David Biddulph's rationale for this revert, in which he says: Global change from hockey to "field hockey" broke links, & invalidated quotes & reference titles. That sounds like an objection to a move from hockey to field hockey, but in fact there has been no such move, at least not recently. Hockey is an article on all games of the hockey family, and this has been the state of affairs for many many years. -- Trovatore ( talk) 03:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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Regarding the introduction, I'm not sure whether field hockey is that much more common than ice hockey in Korea. I'm Korean, and I've often wondered myself which sport Koreans think of when they hear the word "hockey". It might even be that more people think of ice hockey when they hear the word, in spite of the fact that our field hockey teams are infinitely better than our ice hockey teams. Or it may just be because my high school was an ice-hockey-playing school. For now I'll add Korea alongside Germany there... -- Iceager 10:32, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I removed the bit about it being the Indian and Pakistani national sport. By any sensible definition, cricket is the national sport of both countries, as anybody from a fellow cricket-playing nation who has spent 30 seconds talking to a citizen of either country would know. They are not that strong in international competition either since the widespread introduction of synthetic fields in the 1980's. -- Robert Merkel 22:10, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The title 'Field Hockey' will avoid the problem of those only interested in ice-hockey making 'hits' on the article and then, probably, complaining about others wasting their time, but using Field Hockey as a title excludes indoor hockey - 'indoor field hockey' is an absurdity (there may be an indoor field surface for hockey but I don't know of one).
Hockey (field); Hockey (indoor); Hockey (roller); Hockey (street) and Hockey (ice), if there isn't a seperate article for Ice Hockey might be workable; it is at least a systematic approach. ZigZag ( talk) 16:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it lacks a kind of history: Persian origin, big evolution of the rules (I remember, my grand-father used to throw the ball with the hand the put the ball back into to the pitch !), introduction and spreading of synthetic fields, ... I will start something that way, if everybody agrees. Any ideas welcomed. Lvr 08:41, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have written the first two chapters of history, at Field hockey history. Do not hesitate to rephrase my poor English. Lvr 14:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
They are a couple of stuff that were removed from this page:
Why has this been removed. Shouldn't it be convenient to bring it back. See: this old page. Lvr 16:43, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have plan to add a section with
Lvr 14:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I've put in a proposal to create a hockey portal - that way we can get all the hockey articles into one format etc. If anyone has any suggestions, then lets all get our minds together and work it through! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals#Portal:Field_Hockey Cheers Nunners -- Nunners 20:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed this Summer Sport Category. I guess it depends of the general weather of each country. Here in Central Europe, we won't play hockey during the summer because it's too hot ! We play it in automn, winter (except for a few weeks) and lent. Lvr 09:14, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi there,
i am from northern ireland and i am a keen player of the sport.I have been playing since I was very young along with my family who also play. My brother and I have got to a good standard,my brother represented ireland and under age levels and i got a trial for under 16. But the sport here takes a back seat to other sports like rugby and I feel that when I have watched my brother play against teams like the dutch, spanish and germans that they are far superior and wonder is this due to hockey being a popular sport or that the players are just simpply better and have good coaching from a young age? Jc22 19:08, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree with 155.69.5.235 modification to replace South Korea by Spain. In the FIH ranking for September 2005, Spain is 4th (men) en 10th (women), while Korea is 7th (men), 9th (women). I reput Spain instead of South Korea, which is already listed further in the artile. Lvr 09:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Regarding Malaysia, please check the above FIH rankink link: Malaysia is merley 14th in the world for men and is not ranked in 12 first nations for women ! If we include Malaysia, we should include beforehand other countries like South Korea, Poland, ... even my own Belgium !
This external link has been moved to the field hockey history article. Please don't add it here again. Lvr 09:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
The conversion to metric units is slightly more complicated than given here. The dotted line is 5m from the circle line, not 5 yards (4.55m), similarly new pitches, or remarking of existing pitches, is supposed to give the attacker's and defender's PC marks being 5m and 10m from the inside of the goal posts, rather than 5 and 10 yards, and the long corner mark is 5m from the backline. Also the marks 5m from the sidelines on the 23m lines and centre lines are no longer required. See pages 14-17 of the FIH Rules of Hockey I'm not sure how best to word this (which is why I haven't edited it), perhaps something along the lines of units were originally in whole numbers of yards, these have generally been changed to the exact metric equivalents, with the exception of some 5 and 10 yard distances which have been increased to exactly 5 and 10 metres
"Hurling dates to before 1272 BC." This is dubious. While the article points out that games like field hockey have a long history going back to ancient Egypt, one would like to see a reference supporting the claim on hurling. Who was writing about the Irish in 1272 BC? Or was it their Celtic ancestors in the Balkans? Axel 14:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AxelHarvey ( talk • contribs)
As an umpire I can see no justification for the 3m distance given for deciding on dangerous play on shots at goal, the only references in the rulebook are to 5m. I've not edited immediately as the whole concept of danger as related to shots on goal can get a bit heated, as can be seen on any of the hockey web forums. David Underdown
Well, since an anon had made some changes to this anyway, I have made a few changes myself now. In doing so, I've also realised that we don't currently explain what a hit, push etc are and the differences between them, don't want to end up copying large chunks of the rules though. David Underdown 16:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Isn't that POV David?. On a hockey forum we can at least assume some knowledge of the subject from contributors (except perhaps when they are in their early teens). An encyclopedia may be merely a comparative reference for those playing other sport or not involved in sport at all.
I put my previous contribution up in the discussion page for some days before placing it in the article because I found previous contributions deleted. My experience has been that even well accepted practice in hockey is considered POV and (wrongly)even a criticism of existing rule because of the way it is phrased rather than because of the facts stated.
What aspect of the 5m "cut off" is resolved? Sorry to be late to the subject of the article but I will go through any page in any subject that I choose to and make additions or alterations where I feel that to be appropriate. I have never gone along with the theory that the first speaker is correct or right or even that they are telling the truth, in many instances it is obviously not so. You were kind enough to remove my "excessive and unnecessary use of italics" in a previous post (POV? But thanks) I have corrected your spelling of 'dubious'. 92.14.47.81 ( talk) 18:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Underdown ( talk) 09:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Good grief David, you and I both know that the rules governing the dangerously lifted ball are far from perfect: as an NPHL umpire you could 'validate' that comment. Although I have not the level of experience of Charlesworth, I too have been an international hockey coach, as well as an umpire and know enough about the application of the rules of hockey to make valid comment on a talk page. Charlesworth has been outspoken in his criticism of the rules about the lifted ball but I feel that his article, which I could no doubt find, would not fit well into a general article about hockey, even as a reference it might just cause confusion among those not very familiar with the game.
I feel that if you did not know me very well through the various hockey fora where we have exchanged views you would not have bothered with these 'corrections'. There are certainly more glaring errors than mine in the article and I note that you have previously written that you do not have time to make structured contribution to it - but you have time to waste 'correcting' me even though you know I was correct.
I bow to your instructions concerning the use of italics. ZigZag ( talk) 12:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I have come across the verification problem in an article in another area David and all I can do there is to take the time to go through that article and strip out all that I see as unverifiable - which will improve it but not add anything to it - and will be a complete waste of time.
In this article, which is far less emotive, there is as you say not a great deal that is useful published (in fact I would argue with much of what is published) and certainly a reading of the rules gives little insight into the application of them, which is what I was trying to do: so we are 'up the creek without a paddle'
I am the ZigZag that you will also have known as Conundrum on the now defunct HockeyWeb forum and the FHF, the one who invented that peculiar stick and thinks elbow height should be used as a limiting height for a lifted hit in the outfield and for a drag flick at a penalty corner (among sixty-four other changes)- and if that information in addition to my writing style hasn't identified me, IM me at TalkingHockey and I will respond. ZigZag ( talk) 23:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay David I misunderstood this "I know who you are, or at least I can assume I do, based on your username - if you think about it I have no real way of being certain of the point,.." as uncertainty. So where do we go from here? Not much is verifiable from published sources outside of the Rules of Hockey and Umpires Briefing except perhaps what David Whittaker, Ric Charlesworth, Horse Wein, John Gawley and various journalists have written - and much of that is opinion. Where do we start? At the moment much of the article seems to be put together by American High School or College students who are unfamiliar with FIH rules and the application of them and who have perhaps never played or seen hockey played on any surface except natural grass - a distant memory at most levels of european hockey. ZigZag ( talk) 21:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
In addition to your response a new rule is under review where it will be required that all players wear face masks to help protect their faces. Bfowler513 ( talk) 22:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)Bfowler513
It might be helpful to think about John Smith (Labour Party leader). Within that article, he gets called "John Smith" in the lead, and "Smith" thereafter, even though there are many other people called Smith or John Smith. Similarly, within the article called "Field hockey", it makes sense to refer to the game as "hockey" as that it what the governing body calls it: we don't need to distinguish it from ice hockey or other forms of hockey within this article. Hope that helps. Pam D 19:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I agree--I think using the term 'hockey' after makes the most sense. Ice hockey should as well! I've played both sports and have refereed to them as simply 'hockey' in different contexts. I also think the article could use a section of the different levels of field hockey (high school, division I II II, professional, olympic) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chickey13 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't the page title be Hockey rather than Field Hockey? Kniwor ( talk) 06:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Should the Green Card section be updated to reflect current International rules ? (2 minutes in the sin bin). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.22.159 ( talk) 04:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
This article and other similar Wikipedia articles refer to the version of the game that has been taken up as being originated by "Middlesex" clubs - (namely Teddington, Richmond and Surbiton).
While Teddington is indeed in Middlesex, Richmond and Surbiton are in Surrey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.50.108.223 ( talk) 12:49, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
General Play rules need to be updated. Recent changes have been made to the rules such as the self-start rule, and how there are no longer long hits. Tfinnn ( talk) 18:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
There is a tiny pocket in Florida, a larger but still insignificant in Georgia (Atlanta). Not aware of any in Alabama or Mississippi. There is some in North Carolina. There is some in California, and Colorado. There is women's collegiate hockey. I think the reference to Southern States should be removed. By tiny in Florida, I'm talking < 100 people who may less than semi-regularly. No organized leagues in GA, FL, AL, Mississippi. Nicolas.hammond ( talk) 02:31, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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"A field hockey ball with a 5 franc coin" . . . what 5 franc? The Cameroonian franc? The Guadeloupe franc? More importantly, how big are those 5 franc coins, and how many people are familiar with them?
In fact, does anyone have a ball and a ruler that they can photograph together; that would be helpful. Nick Barnett ( talk) 13:10, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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So firstly, the (apparently) pro-ice-hockey edits of the IPv6 editor were obviously helpful and true.
That said, I do not see any need for "known in most countries". Even if it is true, which is not clear to me (note also that it is unsourced), it feels like a gratuitous slap at North Americans and at ice hockey. Ice hockey is also "known as hockey" where it is played (an earlier edit opined that calling ice hockey "hockey" was the same as calling water polo "polo", but this is demonstrably not true; water polo players and fans do not call it "polo", but ice hockey players and fans do call it "hockey").
Separately, I am unable to follow David Biddulph's rationale for this revert, in which he says: Global change from hockey to "field hockey" broke links, & invalidated quotes & reference titles. That sounds like an objection to a move from hockey to field hockey, but in fact there has been no such move, at least not recently. Hockey is an article on all games of the hockey family, and this has been the state of affairs for many many years. -- Trovatore ( talk) 03:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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