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User:Ragib's edit summary argument as to why a fair use stamp image can be used to illustrate the subject depicted on the stamp:
This is a specious argument. You're basically saying, "Everyone else does it, so it's OK". If every editor made the same argument, then none of the improperly used stamp images would get removed. Even if there are (many) other cases, it still doesn't make it right here. Read {{ stamp}} carefully -- it says that stamp images can only be used to discuss the stamp itself. As the saying goes, a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. howch e ng { chat} 19:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This article is wildly inaccurate. An architect is not the same as an engineer. He may have designed structural components of the Sears Tower and John Hancock Tower but did not design the buildings themselves. Americasroof ( talk) 17:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Americasroof, you are looking at a complex network of inter-related disciplines as completely separate disciplines. When somebody designs something like a two story house, yes you might be right. However, when we are talking about designing something like Willis(Sears) tower at a time when nothing like this existed, it is nowhere near as simple as you are perceiving it to be. Even a twenty story office building requires architects to work with structural engineers. In some cases structural engineers have little contribution, in some cases they have larger contribution. In the case of Fazlur Rahman Khan, the architect used designs which were pioneered by Fazlur Rahman Khan's research. And in highly specialized level of structural engineering, engineers often posses no less expertise on structural architecture than any good architect. Not all engineers have similar grasp in their field. Remember, we are talking about someone who completed three graduate and post graduate degrees, namely: MSc in Structural engineering, MSc in Mathematical Mechanics and a PhD in Structural Engineering from arguably the best graduate program in Civil Engineering in the USA (UIUC) within the span of 3 years. And if you want me to give any example of his solo architectural contribution, then I can name so many of them. One of the wonder he designed was the revolutionary roof of the Haj terminal in the Jeddah International Airport, Saudi Arabia. Emporis calls him an engineer because he was an engineer, which does not imply he had no contribution to the architectural side of his projects and neither can it prove his architectural inventions were false. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.222.234 ( talk) 01:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Americasroof, watch 4:40 onward http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aswJTvUpGFY
This article is glowing with praise for Kahn. While I no opinion on him myself either way, I do believe some critique should be present. I may attempt this, though I feel it is necessary to declare my intention. Thanks, The Fire Tones 10:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Criticism comes when there is criticism. There is something to criticize about everyone. However there might be nothing to criticize someone's particular contribution to a specific field. When someone is writing about Brittney Spears, he might criticize her personal life because she is a celebrity personality and that is something perceived as common in the mainstream media. However Fazlur Khan is not such a personality and his contribution is related to Engineering and Science and to some degree social and cultural contribution. I do not see how one is searching something to criticize here! When somebody says Karl Friedrich Gauss was called "The Prince of Mathematics", it's not an overstatement. Similarly, when someone says Fazlur Khan is considered the "Einstein of structural engineering", that's not an overstatement either. Nobody is trying to glorify him here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.222.234 ( talk) 00:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
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how he died?-- Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ ( talk) 12:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
“When thinking design, I put myself in the place of a whole building, feeling every part. In my mind I visualize the stresses and twisting a building undergoes.”
Pleas reinstate.
108.21.13.152 ( talk) 04:05, 10 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.21.1.234 ( talk)
Nothing should be footnoted in a lead that can be footnoted in the article body, except for contentious/controversial statements. And virtually nothing anywhere should have more than two cites ... there are single things with four or five footnotes here. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 15:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
This article has been happy on this title for nine years. I see no reason to move it. Google gives 34,700 hits for "Fazlur Khan" and only 20,800 for "Fazlur Rahman Khan". — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that the article Fazlur Khan should be renamed Fazlur Rahman Khan, since the latter is correct, allows the name to make sense to those who understand Islamic personal names,, and is at least as well supported by reliable sources. SamuelTheGhost ( talk) 00:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Fazlur Khan → Fazlur Rahman Khan – The name Fazlur Rahman is Arabic and means bounty of the Merciful One. The name Fazlur on its own would mean bounty of the. Such meaningless name abbreviations and separations do occur in non Arabic-speaking environments, and if they have come to be universally applied in a particular case, Wikipedia should follow in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME. In this case, however, looking at the names used in the many reliable sources provided in the article, Fazlur Rahman Khan and Fazlur R. Khan are both used more often than Fazlur Khan. The full name would be correct and woould certainly be preferred by those famliar with the form of Arabic names. SamuelTheGhost ( talk) 21:29, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
The article says Kahn was born in Dhaka, Bangladesh in 1929. As Bangladesh did not exist in 1929, would be more accurate to say something like Dhaka, British India (now Bangladesh)? The reference cited does not mention Bangladesh but labels it "then British India". Goldnpuppy ( talk) 21:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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If "SOM" is shorthand for "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill", so define it at first mention of "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill". It takes too much effort to figure it out as the article is written now. You have to read the entire article, you can't just search for "SOM" and find that the first time it occurs it is preceded by "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill". 2604:2000:C682:2D00:ADF5:6982:FA5A:E273 ( talk) 05:18, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
Note that this article may be getting extra attention today because Khan is the subject of the day's Google Doodle. — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Constant vandalism -- 202.134.13.140 ( talk) 11:39, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
It may need 30/500 protection for the day and next year. 86.22.8.235 ( talk) 17:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a typo in the caption for this image in the article: /info/en/?search=Fazlur_Rahman_Khan#/media/File:Hancock_tower_2006.jpg
" ... efficient and feasible building very tall skyscrappers could be, ... "
(skyscrappers should be skyscrapers with one p.)
Thank you.
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"Later buildings to ude this include Shanghai World Financial Center"
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"Later buildings to use this include Shanghai World Financial Center"
which corrects a misspelling. Rokob ( talk) 19:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Fazlur Rahman Khan attended IIEST Shibpur, which previously known as Bengal Engineering College, Shibpur. But in the education section, on clicking Bengal Engineering College, it redirects to a blank page, not currently existing page of Indian Institute of Engineering Science and Technology, Shibpur. Please correct the hyperlinks ans the name. __ Abhipso ( talk) 19:12, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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User:Ragib's edit summary argument as to why a fair use stamp image can be used to illustrate the subject depicted on the stamp:
This is a specious argument. You're basically saying, "Everyone else does it, so it's OK". If every editor made the same argument, then none of the improperly used stamp images would get removed. Even if there are (many) other cases, it still doesn't make it right here. Read {{ stamp}} carefully -- it says that stamp images can only be used to discuss the stamp itself. As the saying goes, a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. howch e ng { chat} 19:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This article is wildly inaccurate. An architect is not the same as an engineer. He may have designed structural components of the Sears Tower and John Hancock Tower but did not design the buildings themselves. Americasroof ( talk) 17:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Americasroof, you are looking at a complex network of inter-related disciplines as completely separate disciplines. When somebody designs something like a two story house, yes you might be right. However, when we are talking about designing something like Willis(Sears) tower at a time when nothing like this existed, it is nowhere near as simple as you are perceiving it to be. Even a twenty story office building requires architects to work with structural engineers. In some cases structural engineers have little contribution, in some cases they have larger contribution. In the case of Fazlur Rahman Khan, the architect used designs which were pioneered by Fazlur Rahman Khan's research. And in highly specialized level of structural engineering, engineers often posses no less expertise on structural architecture than any good architect. Not all engineers have similar grasp in their field. Remember, we are talking about someone who completed three graduate and post graduate degrees, namely: MSc in Structural engineering, MSc in Mathematical Mechanics and a PhD in Structural Engineering from arguably the best graduate program in Civil Engineering in the USA (UIUC) within the span of 3 years. And if you want me to give any example of his solo architectural contribution, then I can name so many of them. One of the wonder he designed was the revolutionary roof of the Haj terminal in the Jeddah International Airport, Saudi Arabia. Emporis calls him an engineer because he was an engineer, which does not imply he had no contribution to the architectural side of his projects and neither can it prove his architectural inventions were false. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.222.234 ( talk) 01:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Americasroof, watch 4:40 onward http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aswJTvUpGFY
This article is glowing with praise for Kahn. While I no opinion on him myself either way, I do believe some critique should be present. I may attempt this, though I feel it is necessary to declare my intention. Thanks, The Fire Tones 10:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Criticism comes when there is criticism. There is something to criticize about everyone. However there might be nothing to criticize someone's particular contribution to a specific field. When someone is writing about Brittney Spears, he might criticize her personal life because she is a celebrity personality and that is something perceived as common in the mainstream media. However Fazlur Khan is not such a personality and his contribution is related to Engineering and Science and to some degree social and cultural contribution. I do not see how one is searching something to criticize here! When somebody says Karl Friedrich Gauss was called "The Prince of Mathematics", it's not an overstatement. Similarly, when someone says Fazlur Khan is considered the "Einstein of structural engineering", that's not an overstatement either. Nobody is trying to glorify him here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.222.234 ( talk) 00:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.banglapedia.org/httpdocs/HT/K_0187.HTM. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. MER-C 04:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
how he died?-- Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ ( talk) 12:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
“When thinking design, I put myself in the place of a whole building, feeling every part. In my mind I visualize the stresses and twisting a building undergoes.”
Pleas reinstate.
108.21.13.152 ( talk) 04:05, 10 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.21.1.234 ( talk)
Nothing should be footnoted in a lead that can be footnoted in the article body, except for contentious/controversial statements. And virtually nothing anywhere should have more than two cites ... there are single things with four or five footnotes here. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 15:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
This article has been happy on this title for nine years. I see no reason to move it. Google gives 34,700 hits for "Fazlur Khan" and only 20,800 for "Fazlur Rahman Khan". — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that the article Fazlur Khan should be renamed Fazlur Rahman Khan, since the latter is correct, allows the name to make sense to those who understand Islamic personal names,, and is at least as well supported by reliable sources. SamuelTheGhost ( talk) 00:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Fazlur Khan → Fazlur Rahman Khan – The name Fazlur Rahman is Arabic and means bounty of the Merciful One. The name Fazlur on its own would mean bounty of the. Such meaningless name abbreviations and separations do occur in non Arabic-speaking environments, and if they have come to be universally applied in a particular case, Wikipedia should follow in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME. In this case, however, looking at the names used in the many reliable sources provided in the article, Fazlur Rahman Khan and Fazlur R. Khan are both used more often than Fazlur Khan. The full name would be correct and woould certainly be preferred by those famliar with the form of Arabic names. SamuelTheGhost ( talk) 21:29, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
The article says Kahn was born in Dhaka, Bangladesh in 1929. As Bangladesh did not exist in 1929, would be more accurate to say something like Dhaka, British India (now Bangladesh)? The reference cited does not mention Bangladesh but labels it "then British India". Goldnpuppy ( talk) 21:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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If "SOM" is shorthand for "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill", so define it at first mention of "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill". It takes too much effort to figure it out as the article is written now. You have to read the entire article, you can't just search for "SOM" and find that the first time it occurs it is preceded by "Skidmore, Owings & Merrill". 2604:2000:C682:2D00:ADF5:6982:FA5A:E273 ( talk) 05:18, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
Note that this article may be getting extra attention today because Khan is the subject of the day's Google Doodle. — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Constant vandalism -- 202.134.13.140 ( talk) 11:39, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
It may need 30/500 protection for the day and next year. 86.22.8.235 ( talk) 17:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a typo in the caption for this image in the article: /info/en/?search=Fazlur_Rahman_Khan#/media/File:Hancock_tower_2006.jpg
" ... efficient and feasible building very tall skyscrappers could be, ... "
(skyscrappers should be skyscrapers with one p.)
Thank you.
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Change the word "ude" in the last sentence:
"Later buildings to ude this include Shanghai World Financial Center"
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"Later buildings to use this include Shanghai World Financial Center"
which corrects a misspelling. Rokob ( talk) 19:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Fazlur Rahman Khan attended IIEST Shibpur, which previously known as Bengal Engineering College, Shibpur. But in the education section, on clicking Bengal Engineering College, it redirects to a blank page, not currently existing page of Indian Institute of Engineering Science and Technology, Shibpur. Please correct the hyperlinks ans the name. __ Abhipso ( talk) 19:12, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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