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Difference of fatigue strength in vacuum and air was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 25 April 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Fatigue (material). The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
i also agree that bending a paperclip is not a good example for fatigue, but rather for work hardening. on the other hand, the paragraph of LCF says, that LCF is usually measured in the plastic regime. so what is now the exact difference between LCF and cyclic overload? schwobator, german wikipedia
This answer is confusing. Best surely to say that bending a paperclip is not fatigue as known normally. Low cycle fatigue is normally associated with strain within the elastic range. I have thus reverted the edit. Peterlewis 10:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
IIRC, in the Comet the designers and stress calculators were misled by the fuselage test sections that were pressure tested, in that the fuselage material underwent work hardening due to previous progressive testing, so the material fared better in the repeated pressure tests than was subsequently the case on production aircraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 ( talk) 14:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
LCF (Low Cycle Fatigue) is a shortcut for a fatigue process in which the piece break after a relative low number of cycles, different to HCF (High Cycle Fatigue). In LCF we are speaking of ten of thousand or less of cycles to fracture, while in HCF we expect million of cycles. In both cases there are plastic deformation involved, but in LCF is much greater than the elastic deformation. Dpilo ( talk) 18:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Completed merge of the above article. Placed the contents including references into the "Factors that affect fatigue-life" section. Seems to have worked out fairly well. scope_creep ( talk) 00:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 16:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Fatigue (material) → Fatigue of materials – (...or Material fatigue). WP:NATURAL disambiguation is preferred over the parenthetical one, and the current title looks really stilted to me. I propose the somewhat more verbose "Fatigue of materials" as the most commonly encountered in Google book search: even a search for "material fatigue" produces books universally titled as "Fatigue of [x] materials". In fact, I would say that the proposed title is the WP:COMMONNAME in the literature – "fatigue" alone only works once the context of material science is given. No such user ( talk) 13:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title– thus the proposed move.
Thermal fatigue redirects to this article - but it seems that it is not described at all here (or too well hidden to find with the search term "thermal"). -- Andi47 ( talk) 11:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Much of the topic of low-cycle fatigue is covered here in Fatigue (material). There is a strong overlap in content with low cycle fatigue, with the formula section already re-produced in the Fatigue page. Given that there is not a lot of unique content in Low-cycle fatigue, I propose to merge Low-cycle fatigue into the Fatigue (material) page and put a forwarding link. NeedsGlasses ( talk) 11:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I suspect that a previous statement questioning the existence of a fatigue limit for any metals was removed due to another editor's opinion on the subject. While the debate over the existence of fatigue limits in the fatigue community may not be settled, there is certainly more than enough evidence to put in a clause raising doubts about its existence. In fact, leaving the existence of fatigue limits unchallenged can lead to dangerous design choices for applications that may have large numbers of cycles. Bob Clemintime ( talk) 19:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Fatigue is not a weakening of a material, leading to growth of cracks. The strength of the material is not changed. Instead, fatigue is the nucleation and growth of cracks in a material. Thinking that a material is weakened by cyclic loading is a mistake. Hermanoere ( talk) 02:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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Drive-by nominator appears to made only one very minor edit to the article. And with many unsourced sentences and paragraphs, and some unreliable sources (for instance the ones from Material Technologies Inc, Fatigue Technology, LAMPL, and the Cryogenic Treatment Database) this is far from meeting WP:GACR#C2. I think this can be a quick WP:GAFAIL. — David Eppstein ( talk) 02:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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Difference of fatigue strength in vacuum and air was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 25 April 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Fatigue (material). The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
i also agree that bending a paperclip is not a good example for fatigue, but rather for work hardening. on the other hand, the paragraph of LCF says, that LCF is usually measured in the plastic regime. so what is now the exact difference between LCF and cyclic overload? schwobator, german wikipedia
This answer is confusing. Best surely to say that bending a paperclip is not fatigue as known normally. Low cycle fatigue is normally associated with strain within the elastic range. I have thus reverted the edit. Peterlewis 10:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
IIRC, in the Comet the designers and stress calculators were misled by the fuselage test sections that were pressure tested, in that the fuselage material underwent work hardening due to previous progressive testing, so the material fared better in the repeated pressure tests than was subsequently the case on production aircraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 ( talk) 14:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
LCF (Low Cycle Fatigue) is a shortcut for a fatigue process in which the piece break after a relative low number of cycles, different to HCF (High Cycle Fatigue). In LCF we are speaking of ten of thousand or less of cycles to fracture, while in HCF we expect million of cycles. In both cases there are plastic deformation involved, but in LCF is much greater than the elastic deformation. Dpilo ( talk) 18:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Completed merge of the above article. Placed the contents including references into the "Factors that affect fatigue-life" section. Seems to have worked out fairly well. scope_creep ( talk) 00:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 16:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Fatigue (material) → Fatigue of materials – (...or Material fatigue). WP:NATURAL disambiguation is preferred over the parenthetical one, and the current title looks really stilted to me. I propose the somewhat more verbose "Fatigue of materials" as the most commonly encountered in Google book search: even a search for "material fatigue" produces books universally titled as "Fatigue of [x] materials". In fact, I would say that the proposed title is the WP:COMMONNAME in the literature – "fatigue" alone only works once the context of material science is given. No such user ( talk) 13:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title– thus the proposed move.
Thermal fatigue redirects to this article - but it seems that it is not described at all here (or too well hidden to find with the search term "thermal"). -- Andi47 ( talk) 11:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Much of the topic of low-cycle fatigue is covered here in Fatigue (material). There is a strong overlap in content with low cycle fatigue, with the formula section already re-produced in the Fatigue page. Given that there is not a lot of unique content in Low-cycle fatigue, I propose to merge Low-cycle fatigue into the Fatigue (material) page and put a forwarding link. NeedsGlasses ( talk) 11:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I suspect that a previous statement questioning the existence of a fatigue limit for any metals was removed due to another editor's opinion on the subject. While the debate over the existence of fatigue limits in the fatigue community may not be settled, there is certainly more than enough evidence to put in a clause raising doubts about its existence. In fact, leaving the existence of fatigue limits unchallenged can lead to dangerous design choices for applications that may have large numbers of cycles. Bob Clemintime ( talk) 19:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Fatigue is not a weakening of a material, leading to growth of cracks. The strength of the material is not changed. Instead, fatigue is the nucleation and growth of cracks in a material. Thinking that a material is weakened by cyclic loading is a mistake. Hermanoere ( talk) 02:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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Drive-by nominator appears to made only one very minor edit to the article. And with many unsourced sentences and paragraphs, and some unreliable sources (for instance the ones from Material Technologies Inc, Fatigue Technology, LAMPL, and the Cryogenic Treatment Database) this is far from meeting WP:GACR#C2. I think this can be a quick WP:GAFAIL. — David Eppstein ( talk) 02:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)