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There is no assertion made that these organizations are related other than they deal with "family" issues. They don't even all have "family policy" as part of their title. Where does the link between them come from? If it's not supported by a verified external source, that would suggest this link is original research. eaolson 04:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
A modest but incomplete review of the listed organizations show that they are not only organizations which promote children and families, but a particular conservative POV as to what benefits and harms children and families. This view is not shared by other groups, such as polygamy or gay-rights activists, many of whom feel that they are promoting a different view of what makes for positive families and environments for children. This leaves the article, in my (potentially biased opinion) POV. -- Joe Decker 17:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Doing a little Googling, it seems that the term "Family Policy Council" is used virtually exclusively in the context of [ this program] run by Focus on the Family. It doesn't seem to ever be used as a generic term for a family-oriented organization. There is one exception of a Washington state organization, but that's it. I think the article should be revised to reflect this. eaolson 15:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems like we're getting some serious scope creep in this article. The title alone is odd, especially the word "Council." It seems to me this article started out as a list of programs in the Family Research Council's "Family Policy Council" thing. That's a very specific criteria. Now it's broadened into "any organization having to do with families." For example, the "Families like mine" link has nothing to do with governmental policy. Same with PFOX. This is starting to stray into indiscriminate list category. eaolson 16:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
"traditional" family values is POV.
Your use of the word "liberal" in regards to families with interracial parents, same-sex partners, and single parents is also not appropriate. -- DCX ( talk) 20:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Several points have been made that no one has taken action on. I'll do so if I can be assured that my work won't be swept away two minutes later. I've researched this, and it is clear that Family Policy Council is a "brand name" of Focus on the Family and the Family Research Center. It is a name used by them for their state affiliates. (In other words, FOTF itself is not an FPC, even though it shares their agenda.) To put it simply, the term FPC has entered the lexicon because of the FOTF organizations, so that's how it should be covered. While there have obviously always been groups working to help children and provide support for parents, the FPCs started by FOTF are a specific type of organization with a pretty specific (and pretty uniform) conservative agenda. Of course, the article should still make clear that there are organizations with different and sometimes opposing agendas, and that the generic term family policy council might be said to apply to some of them. I'll spend some time on this after hearing no objection, or better yet, some words of agreement. Historydude58 ( talk) 08:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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I've overhauled this whole article. There seemed to be long-running ambiguity concerning if "family policy council" is to be treated as a generic (and lower-cased) term designating many types of groups, or if is to be treated as a proper noun, a "brand name" of Focus on the Family. After research, it seems that in the mid 1990s the term was floating around, designating a couple different things, but that today it's used exclusively in the "brand name" sense. I've changed the article to reflect this, added an "Origins" section detailing what I know of the etymology, and "Operations" and "Impact" sections with additional cited research. If anyone's looking at this, let me know what you think. Jno.skinner ( talk) 02:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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There is no assertion made that these organizations are related other than they deal with "family" issues. They don't even all have "family policy" as part of their title. Where does the link between them come from? If it's not supported by a verified external source, that would suggest this link is original research. eaolson 04:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
A modest but incomplete review of the listed organizations show that they are not only organizations which promote children and families, but a particular conservative POV as to what benefits and harms children and families. This view is not shared by other groups, such as polygamy or gay-rights activists, many of whom feel that they are promoting a different view of what makes for positive families and environments for children. This leaves the article, in my (potentially biased opinion) POV. -- Joe Decker 17:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Doing a little Googling, it seems that the term "Family Policy Council" is used virtually exclusively in the context of [ this program] run by Focus on the Family. It doesn't seem to ever be used as a generic term for a family-oriented organization. There is one exception of a Washington state organization, but that's it. I think the article should be revised to reflect this. eaolson 15:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems like we're getting some serious scope creep in this article. The title alone is odd, especially the word "Council." It seems to me this article started out as a list of programs in the Family Research Council's "Family Policy Council" thing. That's a very specific criteria. Now it's broadened into "any organization having to do with families." For example, the "Families like mine" link has nothing to do with governmental policy. Same with PFOX. This is starting to stray into indiscriminate list category. eaolson 16:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
"traditional" family values is POV.
Your use of the word "liberal" in regards to families with interracial parents, same-sex partners, and single parents is also not appropriate. -- DCX ( talk) 20:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Several points have been made that no one has taken action on. I'll do so if I can be assured that my work won't be swept away two minutes later. I've researched this, and it is clear that Family Policy Council is a "brand name" of Focus on the Family and the Family Research Center. It is a name used by them for their state affiliates. (In other words, FOTF itself is not an FPC, even though it shares their agenda.) To put it simply, the term FPC has entered the lexicon because of the FOTF organizations, so that's how it should be covered. While there have obviously always been groups working to help children and provide support for parents, the FPCs started by FOTF are a specific type of organization with a pretty specific (and pretty uniform) conservative agenda. Of course, the article should still make clear that there are organizations with different and sometimes opposing agendas, and that the generic term family policy council might be said to apply to some of them. I'll spend some time on this after hearing no objection, or better yet, some words of agreement. Historydude58 ( talk) 08:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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I've overhauled this whole article. There seemed to be long-running ambiguity concerning if "family policy council" is to be treated as a generic (and lower-cased) term designating many types of groups, or if is to be treated as a proper noun, a "brand name" of Focus on the Family. After research, it seems that in the mid 1990s the term was floating around, designating a couple different things, but that today it's used exclusively in the "brand name" sense. I've changed the article to reflect this, added an "Origins" section detailing what I know of the etymology, and "Operations" and "Impact" sections with additional cited research. If anyone's looking at this, let me know what you think. Jno.skinner ( talk) 02:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)