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I think it would be good to include a little bit on the discrimination against homeschoolers controversy. It has even been reported by the Washington Post. [1]
Wiki Man One 23:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
In the applications section, would it be a good idea to list the 3 or so most popular applications, so that users can get an understanding of what kind of applications are popular? I added it in the article, but some biased user had it deleted before I could get any feedback. Tavix ( talk) 00:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
There's lots of stuff in 02138 Magazine, article Poking Facebook and The Facebook Files which needs adding to the Wikipedia article. Francis Irving 07:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Saw something unusual on Facebook and thought it might have relevance here on Wikipedia. Look at the bottom of your friends list, and just above "Facebook (c) 2007" is a piece of watermark text that says, "Only the craftiest of quails survive hunting season." Does this have any significance to Facebook (e.g. company motto)? Mayor Coffee Bean 22:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll make this easier. I highlighted the text and took a screenshot. Can anybody explain what this is? --
Mayor Coffee Bean (
talk)
04:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Karmoush ( talk) 00:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC) There is a way that people can view your first 18 pictures that you posted and/or that people tagged you in. I thought this should be brought to everyone's attention. Here is how it's done. You search for any person on Facebook and click on the "view friends" link. Go to the bar where the url is and copy the number after id=. Say for example it was id=4567890. Then you go to your profile and view either a picture you tagged or someone tagged you in and paste that number, "4567890", on top of the number after subj= and id=. Then press enter. It will take you straight to that person's pictures. If you use a picture that you posted then you view pictures that that person posted. If you use a picture that someone posted of you, then you see pictures people posted of that person. It may not work sometimes as some people do not post pictures of themselves nor do they have pictures people posted of them. Karmoush ( talk) 00:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Frank1470 19:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)the group 1,000,000 strong for Stephen T. Colbert made Facebook history by accumulating over 1,000,000 members in 10 days. Why would this not be worthy of mention? here is the ref http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9044305
Dollarq 14:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC) I think facebooknotes.info should be added to external links. I get lots of visitor every looking for help on how to use the functionality of Facebook. Such as deleting friends, how friend requests work. Currently there are no other sites with this info.etc help section: facebooknotes.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=18&Itemid=28 I use answers.yahoo.com to find question people ask about facebook, then I write a article/tutorial about. Google then indexes the page and I get Search engine traffic from people looking for info on that. Obviously people are looking for that info.
Is there a user box for Facebook? Tigersfan1992 22:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted that one of the Facebook applications, the Talking Smileys (The Webfetti Toolbar application) has a Trojan horse virus, my Avast! Antivirus was able to detect and quarantine the virus, as reference to my experience, here's a link to a forum discussing the problem: http://www.greatcanadianforum.ca/showthread.php?t=31890...
Can this information be added to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.225.217 ( talk) 12:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Quite frankly, I don't think it belongs in this article. It's just hype driven by Facebook itself and the media. Assuming that estimates of Facebook's annual revenue at $100 million aren't inflated, it's nothing close to $15 billion. Facebook isn't worth $15B for the simple fact that no one in his right mind would pay $15B for a 100% stake. The MS stake price is irrelevant because you can't multiply it by 62.5X and assume that's what people would pay to acquire the entire company. For this article, just a simple "Microsoft bought a 1.6% stake for $240 million" would suffice.
Exponential user growth can't last forever, and as I see it, much of Facebook's "value" is driven on nothing but unproven hype. I think growth will almost certainly slow down in the next year or two and the Web 2.0 bubble may at last burst prior to the end of this decade. Wikipedian06 10:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This is the way it is being reported. If you want to point out that many people feel that this is not a fair way to estimate a company's value then that's wonderful. Just be sure to include a citation.
--RedHouse18 21:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, reporting it this way is automatically POV, because it originated from Facebook's own press release. Many external articles simply cited FB's press release and didn't bother disputing it. Wikipedian06 03:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The valuation appears to be nothing more than rumour, coming from an incorrect assumption. Microsoft bought a 1.6% stake for $240 million- correct. But what's being missed out is that part of the deal included all advertising outside the US (which Microsoft already had.) If that advertising deal were worth $240 million to Microsoft, then it would effectively value Facebook as worthless. But this is the internet, where rumour quickly becomes 'insider information', which then a few citations later becomes established fact... 193.201.135.244 ( talk) 14:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
If anything, $15 billion is the most accurate valuation for the company. That is it's market value and anything else truly is speculation. If someone paid 1.6% stake for $240 million then that's 150 million per 1% and times 100 is $15 billion. That's how EVERY publicly listed company is valued, i.e. what the company's last share sold for. If anything, 100% could be worth more since MSFT has no control over the company. Microsoft will be paying FMV for any advertising and we cannot assume it will not. As stated in the following article "Van Natta also made clear that the ad deal is not financially a part of the equity investment. 'These are two completely separate transactions,' he told me." http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/24/magazines/fortune/fastforward_microsoft_facebook.fortune/index.htm?section=money_topstories Mdlawmba ( talk) 17:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Image:Only the craftiest.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 14:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The current introduction reads: "Facebook is a social networking website that allows people to communicate with their friends and exchange information." That is a tautology: all social networking websites allow people to communicate with their friends and exchange information. Not to mention that a gazillion other websites allow the same thing. In other words, the intro is not very descriptive.-- 82.92.181.129 ( talk) 12:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3212997.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedian06 ( talk • contribs) 03:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I know there was a talk page about the controversy, but that aside, the News/Mini Feed is one of the most important aspects of the site and I think it should be mentioned. It could either be mentioned as a feature, or in the history section by the date it was added (sometime fall of 2006 I think). 146.151.102.63 ( talk) 03:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous IP persists in adding a Guardian opinion column bashing the founders of Facebook for being successful entrepreneurs, or some other jealous rubbish, I don't have all the time in the world. It's a painfully stupid read which has nothing to say about Facebook the company and website and nothing useful to say about those involved in the company. Unfortunately, at the time of page protection it had been readded for the third time. It serves no purpose in the article. It should be removed. John Nevard ( talk) 08:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I found a blog entry [7] by a Sun employee that discusses his campaign to get Facebook to delete his account (rather than just deactivate it) and some related media coverage and privacy concerns. Could this go in the Privacy section somewhere? -- TrickyApron ( talk) 02:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey I was just wondering if any of you thought we should maybe add a criticism section that mentions the fact that facebook has not shut down the group titled "F*** the Troops" even though it seemingly goes against their policy for group requirements. To keep it NPOV, it would be important to first give the mission statement for the group then to quote facebook's policy on groups. Then those that read it can decide for themselves as to whether or not it should be allowed. This has really drawn a lot of criticism and I think it would maybe be important to mention. What do you all think? - Brad Kgj08 ( talk) 03:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Since now, Facebook is also available in Spanish, and it will soon be offered in French and German too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.42.106.229 ( talk) 21:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I see someone deleted my addition of the first metric we have for the amount of data Facebook collects about its users for the purpose of targeting advertising. I apologize if that was too specific for this high level page (and would be happy to reword it). But, how do you plan to explain the company's revenue model? Or do you mean to say the whole shebang is run on private capital? - Susanlesch ( talk) 20:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 19, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
Nicely done, User:Gary King and others. Comprehensive and careful. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Relata refero ( talk) 12:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The article facebook features seems excessive and unnecessary. It is my opinion that it should be merged into the features section of this article. DoC352 ( talk) 01:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Facebook now exists in several other countries other than USA. For instance it has a large presence in th UK, but this article does not even mention the UK. I therfore state that the article should be exapnded to mention facebook in other countries. Franny-K ( talk) 01:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Could someone fix the line break that happens before the first line in the lead? I don't know why it exists but it's bugging me. Gary King ( talk) 08:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
hello facebook my sames password and log thank you on open chrome facebook not again over said why said stop my same correct thank you
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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I think it would be good to include a little bit on the discrimination against homeschoolers controversy. It has even been reported by the Washington Post. [1]
Wiki Man One 23:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
In the applications section, would it be a good idea to list the 3 or so most popular applications, so that users can get an understanding of what kind of applications are popular? I added it in the article, but some biased user had it deleted before I could get any feedback. Tavix ( talk) 00:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
There's lots of stuff in 02138 Magazine, article Poking Facebook and The Facebook Files which needs adding to the Wikipedia article. Francis Irving 07:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Saw something unusual on Facebook and thought it might have relevance here on Wikipedia. Look at the bottom of your friends list, and just above "Facebook (c) 2007" is a piece of watermark text that says, "Only the craftiest of quails survive hunting season." Does this have any significance to Facebook (e.g. company motto)? Mayor Coffee Bean 22:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll make this easier. I highlighted the text and took a screenshot. Can anybody explain what this is? --
Mayor Coffee Bean (
talk)
04:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Karmoush ( talk) 00:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC) There is a way that people can view your first 18 pictures that you posted and/or that people tagged you in. I thought this should be brought to everyone's attention. Here is how it's done. You search for any person on Facebook and click on the "view friends" link. Go to the bar where the url is and copy the number after id=. Say for example it was id=4567890. Then you go to your profile and view either a picture you tagged or someone tagged you in and paste that number, "4567890", on top of the number after subj= and id=. Then press enter. It will take you straight to that person's pictures. If you use a picture that you posted then you view pictures that that person posted. If you use a picture that someone posted of you, then you see pictures people posted of that person. It may not work sometimes as some people do not post pictures of themselves nor do they have pictures people posted of them. Karmoush ( talk) 00:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Frank1470 19:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)the group 1,000,000 strong for Stephen T. Colbert made Facebook history by accumulating over 1,000,000 members in 10 days. Why would this not be worthy of mention? here is the ref http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9044305
Dollarq 14:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC) I think facebooknotes.info should be added to external links. I get lots of visitor every looking for help on how to use the functionality of Facebook. Such as deleting friends, how friend requests work. Currently there are no other sites with this info.etc help section: facebooknotes.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=18&Itemid=28 I use answers.yahoo.com to find question people ask about facebook, then I write a article/tutorial about. Google then indexes the page and I get Search engine traffic from people looking for info on that. Obviously people are looking for that info.
Is there a user box for Facebook? Tigersfan1992 22:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted that one of the Facebook applications, the Talking Smileys (The Webfetti Toolbar application) has a Trojan horse virus, my Avast! Antivirus was able to detect and quarantine the virus, as reference to my experience, here's a link to a forum discussing the problem: http://www.greatcanadianforum.ca/showthread.php?t=31890...
Can this information be added to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.225.217 ( talk) 12:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Quite frankly, I don't think it belongs in this article. It's just hype driven by Facebook itself and the media. Assuming that estimates of Facebook's annual revenue at $100 million aren't inflated, it's nothing close to $15 billion. Facebook isn't worth $15B for the simple fact that no one in his right mind would pay $15B for a 100% stake. The MS stake price is irrelevant because you can't multiply it by 62.5X and assume that's what people would pay to acquire the entire company. For this article, just a simple "Microsoft bought a 1.6% stake for $240 million" would suffice.
Exponential user growth can't last forever, and as I see it, much of Facebook's "value" is driven on nothing but unproven hype. I think growth will almost certainly slow down in the next year or two and the Web 2.0 bubble may at last burst prior to the end of this decade. Wikipedian06 10:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This is the way it is being reported. If you want to point out that many people feel that this is not a fair way to estimate a company's value then that's wonderful. Just be sure to include a citation.
--RedHouse18 21:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, reporting it this way is automatically POV, because it originated from Facebook's own press release. Many external articles simply cited FB's press release and didn't bother disputing it. Wikipedian06 03:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The valuation appears to be nothing more than rumour, coming from an incorrect assumption. Microsoft bought a 1.6% stake for $240 million- correct. But what's being missed out is that part of the deal included all advertising outside the US (which Microsoft already had.) If that advertising deal were worth $240 million to Microsoft, then it would effectively value Facebook as worthless. But this is the internet, where rumour quickly becomes 'insider information', which then a few citations later becomes established fact... 193.201.135.244 ( talk) 14:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
If anything, $15 billion is the most accurate valuation for the company. That is it's market value and anything else truly is speculation. If someone paid 1.6% stake for $240 million then that's 150 million per 1% and times 100 is $15 billion. That's how EVERY publicly listed company is valued, i.e. what the company's last share sold for. If anything, 100% could be worth more since MSFT has no control over the company. Microsoft will be paying FMV for any advertising and we cannot assume it will not. As stated in the following article "Van Natta also made clear that the ad deal is not financially a part of the equity investment. 'These are two completely separate transactions,' he told me." http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/24/magazines/fortune/fastforward_microsoft_facebook.fortune/index.htm?section=money_topstories Mdlawmba ( talk) 17:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Image:Only the craftiest.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 14:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The current introduction reads: "Facebook is a social networking website that allows people to communicate with their friends and exchange information." That is a tautology: all social networking websites allow people to communicate with their friends and exchange information. Not to mention that a gazillion other websites allow the same thing. In other words, the intro is not very descriptive.-- 82.92.181.129 ( talk) 12:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3212997.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedian06 ( talk • contribs) 03:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I know there was a talk page about the controversy, but that aside, the News/Mini Feed is one of the most important aspects of the site and I think it should be mentioned. It could either be mentioned as a feature, or in the history section by the date it was added (sometime fall of 2006 I think). 146.151.102.63 ( talk) 03:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous IP persists in adding a Guardian opinion column bashing the founders of Facebook for being successful entrepreneurs, or some other jealous rubbish, I don't have all the time in the world. It's a painfully stupid read which has nothing to say about Facebook the company and website and nothing useful to say about those involved in the company. Unfortunately, at the time of page protection it had been readded for the third time. It serves no purpose in the article. It should be removed. John Nevard ( talk) 08:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I found a blog entry [7] by a Sun employee that discusses his campaign to get Facebook to delete his account (rather than just deactivate it) and some related media coverage and privacy concerns. Could this go in the Privacy section somewhere? -- TrickyApron ( talk) 02:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey I was just wondering if any of you thought we should maybe add a criticism section that mentions the fact that facebook has not shut down the group titled "F*** the Troops" even though it seemingly goes against their policy for group requirements. To keep it NPOV, it would be important to first give the mission statement for the group then to quote facebook's policy on groups. Then those that read it can decide for themselves as to whether or not it should be allowed. This has really drawn a lot of criticism and I think it would maybe be important to mention. What do you all think? - Brad Kgj08 ( talk) 03:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Since now, Facebook is also available in Spanish, and it will soon be offered in French and German too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.42.106.229 ( talk) 21:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I see someone deleted my addition of the first metric we have for the amount of data Facebook collects about its users for the purpose of targeting advertising. I apologize if that was too specific for this high level page (and would be happy to reword it). But, how do you plan to explain the company's revenue model? Or do you mean to say the whole shebang is run on private capital? - Susanlesch ( talk) 20:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 19, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
Nicely done, User:Gary King and others. Comprehensive and careful. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Relata refero ( talk) 12:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The article facebook features seems excessive and unnecessary. It is my opinion that it should be merged into the features section of this article. DoC352 ( talk) 01:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Facebook now exists in several other countries other than USA. For instance it has a large presence in th UK, but this article does not even mention the UK. I therfore state that the article should be exapnded to mention facebook in other countries. Franny-K ( talk) 01:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Could someone fix the line break that happens before the first line in the lead? I don't know why it exists but it's bugging me. Gary King ( talk) 08:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
hello facebook my sames password and log thank you on open chrome facebook not again over said why said stop my same correct thank you