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Is a citation really needed for the claim "this has not yet been confirmed by Apple"? I would expect one if the claim was that Apple had confirmed a rumor. Ndufva ( talk) 17:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Please - Whoever goes around Wiki putting "citation needed" on every statement should stop it! Wiki is being polluted with the blue marks causing a reading distraction.
Same claim as Ndufva above, it's not needed here. How can you prove something hasn't been done? Swapshop1 ( talk) 23:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
My guess is that it's using TDD/V.18 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_device_for_the_deaf#Protocols), but wilder ideas include carrier acting as "operator" to detect compatibility and create or facilitate setup of the IP connection; or phones SMS'ing each other (for free) through a side channel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdsweet ( talk • contribs) 01:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn’t several of the technologies involved (STUN, TURN, ICE) be unnecessary if the devices (and later telcom carriers) supported IPv6? — Christoph Päper 11:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Last time I checked H.264 and AAC were not open, so calling them open standards is somewhat misleading. -- 93.96.175.64 ( talk) 21:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
http://blog.roychowdhury.org/2010/06/25/facetime-on-iphone-4-vanilla-unencrypted-stun-and-sip/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.201.122.82 ( talk) 16:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
"However, with 3rd party software like fring, video calling can operate on a 3G network and can also connect with other phones." -- This is misleading. Apple has opened up access to the front-facing camera to 3rd party developers, but this does NOT imply interoperability between Fring and FaceTime. This sentence is describing how the camera itself may be implemented for video calling. It is not describing the FaceTime implementation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.145.144.61 ( talk) 20:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Is there actually a difference between the two cameras? I was under the impression that they were merely re-branding iSight, but considering that the current comparison page shows the MacBook Air as the only model with a "FaceTime" camera (the rest having iSignt cameras) make me think there is actually a hardware difference. Anybody know anything about this? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 07:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Are there FaceTime Applications for Android, Meego or WebOS? Or is FaceTime Apple exclusive?-- 78.48.238.140 ( talk) 20:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anybody else think that the article on the reason why Apple has to charge you for FaceTime is a load of BS? If what they claim there is true, Apple couldn't give out the Mac Apple store like they did, right? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 08:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
The statement that the "Sarbanes–Oxley Act ... prohibits companies, such as Apple, from providing an unadvertised new feature ... without ..." as well as the reference currently cited in support of this statement do not elaborate on why this would be the case. The statement should be removed from the encyclopedia or the reference be replaced with a suitable reference explaining the nature of how Sarbanes-Oxley leads to this conclusion. Any experts on this, please feel free to amend. 24.87.67.125 ( talk) 19:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
It's amazing to me that nothing in this whole page explains what FaceTime does. What is it? Why would I want it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.244.225 ( talk) 03:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The document states that FaceTime Audio was available for OS X Mavericks at launch (October 22,2013) That is false. FaceTime did not receive any updates in OS 10.9. FaceTime Audio for Mac was introduced in OS 10.9.2 Beta 2 not OS 10.9. I edited the article to fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 16:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
The article should be updated to mention that FaceTime Audio has been released on OS 10.9.2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 02:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
We don't need to know that the iPod Touch 4 doesn't support FaceTime Audio. iPod 4 owners already know that their device supports up to iOS 6.1.6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 14:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
hi babe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.23.7 ( talk) 00:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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This "a provision of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act (2002) bars companies from providing an unadvertised new feature of an already-sold product without enduring "onerous accounting measures."" makes no sense. What should that say? Did you mean to work into that something about free versus paid software? That would make more sense in the context of the discussion about not being easily able to offer FaceTime for free, which is the context in which you introduced the excerpt that I quoted. As it stands, it really makes zero sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:9F80:7140:ED08:133E:B71:29CA ( talk) 07:09, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
The system requirements for FaceTime should be researched more closely. You should include the breakdown of compatibility on per-device class and available functionality (that varies) basis. The requirements are very confusing at best and are as follows:
Person MAKES a call: iOS8 and newer for phone calls to Mac Person RECEIVES calls:
Person MAKES video calls: iOS8 and later. MacOS - N/A Person RECEIVES video calls: iOS 4.1 and later MacOS - N/A
Person RECEIVES audio calls: iOS7 and later MacOS 10.9.2 and later
Person MAKES RTT calls: iOS 12.1.1 and later MacOS 10.14.2 and later
Person RECEIVES RTT calls: iOS 12.1.1 and later MacOS 10.14.2 and later Person makes group FT calls: iOS 12.1 and later MacOS 10.14.1 and later
Devices range from iPhone 4, iPod touch (gen 4) all the way to the newest ones. This is not at all clear and simple but should be mentioned. As you see, some requirements may be actual for people using older OS (Lion that theoretically falls within the declared compatibility timeframe or even SnowLeopard). Additionally Apple still sells FaceTime app for SL users but in fact FT with versions older than macOS Mavericks don't work anymore. This only pours oil on the flames. The most vital bit of info regarding the correct minimal requirements for OS X is skipped in the official article.
Personally when on the phone support I was told by Apple that FaceTime is not a service but rather an app built into OS X and hence depending on a version of OS it behaves differently. So I think Apple either bothered to make changes reflecting real requirements or they came up with some hidden plot.
Source: [1] 78.62.13.245 ( talk) 23:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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"The FaceTime protocol is based on numerous open industry standards although it is not interoperable with other videotelephony systems".
It is not clear from the article why there is no interoperability when the protocol is based on open standards. Is there something missing from this characterisation of the protocol's openness? 80.41.95.252 ( talk) 13:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Noticing some of the citations no longer exist. 2001:569:5427:1400:6975:E30B:FFBF:2BB4 ( talk) 00:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The article mentions that it does not work on iPhones or iPads purchased in China, but it never mentions Macs. Does FaceTime Audio work on Macs purchased in China? Félix An ( talk) 10:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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Is a citation really needed for the claim "this has not yet been confirmed by Apple"? I would expect one if the claim was that Apple had confirmed a rumor. Ndufva ( talk) 17:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Please - Whoever goes around Wiki putting "citation needed" on every statement should stop it! Wiki is being polluted with the blue marks causing a reading distraction.
Same claim as Ndufva above, it's not needed here. How can you prove something hasn't been done? Swapshop1 ( talk) 23:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
My guess is that it's using TDD/V.18 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_device_for_the_deaf#Protocols), but wilder ideas include carrier acting as "operator" to detect compatibility and create or facilitate setup of the IP connection; or phones SMS'ing each other (for free) through a side channel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdsweet ( talk • contribs) 01:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn’t several of the technologies involved (STUN, TURN, ICE) be unnecessary if the devices (and later telcom carriers) supported IPv6? — Christoph Päper 11:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Last time I checked H.264 and AAC were not open, so calling them open standards is somewhat misleading. -- 93.96.175.64 ( talk) 21:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
http://blog.roychowdhury.org/2010/06/25/facetime-on-iphone-4-vanilla-unencrypted-stun-and-sip/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.201.122.82 ( talk) 16:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
"However, with 3rd party software like fring, video calling can operate on a 3G network and can also connect with other phones." -- This is misleading. Apple has opened up access to the front-facing camera to 3rd party developers, but this does NOT imply interoperability between Fring and FaceTime. This sentence is describing how the camera itself may be implemented for video calling. It is not describing the FaceTime implementation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.145.144.61 ( talk) 20:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Is there actually a difference between the two cameras? I was under the impression that they were merely re-branding iSight, but considering that the current comparison page shows the MacBook Air as the only model with a "FaceTime" camera (the rest having iSignt cameras) make me think there is actually a hardware difference. Anybody know anything about this? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 07:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Are there FaceTime Applications for Android, Meego or WebOS? Or is FaceTime Apple exclusive?-- 78.48.238.140 ( talk) 20:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anybody else think that the article on the reason why Apple has to charge you for FaceTime is a load of BS? If what they claim there is true, Apple couldn't give out the Mac Apple store like they did, right? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 08:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
The statement that the "Sarbanes–Oxley Act ... prohibits companies, such as Apple, from providing an unadvertised new feature ... without ..." as well as the reference currently cited in support of this statement do not elaborate on why this would be the case. The statement should be removed from the encyclopedia or the reference be replaced with a suitable reference explaining the nature of how Sarbanes-Oxley leads to this conclusion. Any experts on this, please feel free to amend. 24.87.67.125 ( talk) 19:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
It's amazing to me that nothing in this whole page explains what FaceTime does. What is it? Why would I want it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.244.225 ( talk) 03:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The document states that FaceTime Audio was available for OS X Mavericks at launch (October 22,2013) That is false. FaceTime did not receive any updates in OS 10.9. FaceTime Audio for Mac was introduced in OS 10.9.2 Beta 2 not OS 10.9. I edited the article to fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 16:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
The article should be updated to mention that FaceTime Audio has been released on OS 10.9.2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 02:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
We don't need to know that the iPod Touch 4 doesn't support FaceTime Audio. iPod 4 owners already know that their device supports up to iOS 6.1.6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.223.23 ( talk) 14:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
hi babe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.23.7 ( talk) 00:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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This "a provision of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act (2002) bars companies from providing an unadvertised new feature of an already-sold product without enduring "onerous accounting measures."" makes no sense. What should that say? Did you mean to work into that something about free versus paid software? That would make more sense in the context of the discussion about not being easily able to offer FaceTime for free, which is the context in which you introduced the excerpt that I quoted. As it stands, it really makes zero sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:9F80:7140:ED08:133E:B71:29CA ( talk) 07:09, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
The system requirements for FaceTime should be researched more closely. You should include the breakdown of compatibility on per-device class and available functionality (that varies) basis. The requirements are very confusing at best and are as follows:
Person MAKES a call: iOS8 and newer for phone calls to Mac Person RECEIVES calls:
Person MAKES video calls: iOS8 and later. MacOS - N/A Person RECEIVES video calls: iOS 4.1 and later MacOS - N/A
Person RECEIVES audio calls: iOS7 and later MacOS 10.9.2 and later
Person MAKES RTT calls: iOS 12.1.1 and later MacOS 10.14.2 and later
Person RECEIVES RTT calls: iOS 12.1.1 and later MacOS 10.14.2 and later Person makes group FT calls: iOS 12.1 and later MacOS 10.14.1 and later
Devices range from iPhone 4, iPod touch (gen 4) all the way to the newest ones. This is not at all clear and simple but should be mentioned. As you see, some requirements may be actual for people using older OS (Lion that theoretically falls within the declared compatibility timeframe or even SnowLeopard). Additionally Apple still sells FaceTime app for SL users but in fact FT with versions older than macOS Mavericks don't work anymore. This only pours oil on the flames. The most vital bit of info regarding the correct minimal requirements for OS X is skipped in the official article.
Personally when on the phone support I was told by Apple that FaceTime is not a service but rather an app built into OS X and hence depending on a version of OS it behaves differently. So I think Apple either bothered to make changes reflecting real requirements or they came up with some hidden plot.
Source: [1] 78.62.13.245 ( talk) 23:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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"The FaceTime protocol is based on numerous open industry standards although it is not interoperable with other videotelephony systems".
It is not clear from the article why there is no interoperability when the protocol is based on open standards. Is there something missing from this characterisation of the protocol's openness? 80.41.95.252 ( talk) 13:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Noticing some of the citations no longer exist. 2001:569:5427:1400:6975:E30B:FFBF:2BB4 ( talk) 00:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The article mentions that it does not work on iPhones or iPads purchased in China, but it never mentions Macs. Does FaceTime Audio work on Macs purchased in China? Félix An ( talk) 10:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)