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Why is there a director, producer, etc. listed in an article about a short story? Shouldn't that specifically be reserved for an article about the movie. Two entirely different things can't be combined, all of that should be deleted until there's a separate article. Promontoriumispromontorium ( talk) 00:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I added a bit under the "Reception" Section using Elaine Showalter's "Quilt as a metaphor in 'Everyday Life'" explaining another interpretation of Dee and Maggie G.Sant6 ( talk) 16:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Should never have added an entire section on how quilting was such a huge thing back then and the history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Is it worth it to put spoiler notices in this article?-- Martin925 03:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so, there isn't much to spoil.-- 69.183.219.251 17:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thi story is a wonderful story about culture and how oppsites comibne forces to be ne
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Yes it is worth it to put spoilers in here. You come to wiki looking for information, and maybe a 'leg up' on your fellow classmates. Jeffersonman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffersonman85 ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
>"The meaning of the title requires the reader to read deeper within the short story. "
What does this mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.214.44 ( talk) 01:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I feel like the description of the characters and the story is very biased. I am studying this short story and the interpretation of Dee as a "selfish" young woman who is simply following a trend when she tries to deepen her association with her heritage is just that - an interpretation. We can't know if that's actually true as Mama's judgment of Dee is heavily biased.
The description of Dee in this article is similar to the one Mama would make, but it doesn't acknowledge that her point of view is really crooked (one example among many: at some point in the story Mama makes the comment that she actually believes Dee would've danced around the ashes of their burned house.. hard to believe anyone would dance around the ashes of their own home).
So this article needs to be revised for bias. - Kuгtѕκγωαικєг Talk/ Contrıbs 23:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Mama's Story
It is important to remember that this is Mama's story told from Mama's point of view. I also agree that there's too much editorialising in the description of Dee, i.e. "Dee is selfish" "Dee just wants to follow the latest trends." I don't need to be told that Dee is selfish because it's obvious enough (she tries to claim her own sister's wedding presents); however, if she were shy and submissive like Maggie, she would never have escaped the traditional family poverty. As for following the latest trend--what Walker is critiquing, I think, is not Dee's search for an African identity (Walker did that herself) but the way she rejects her own family traditions in favor of this new identity. From the mother's point of view, why should someone who rejects her grandmother's name be given her grandmother's quilts?
Can you show me where the author says it is, "Mama's bitch ass story," please? Doesn't seem like she would use this vulgar language. Lwarn1 ( talk) 17:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
BTW--since Dee apparently regarded her mother's home as a prison, dancing around in its ashes seems appropriate enough, metaphorically speaking. After all, this is fiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.246.101 ( talk) 22:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Strongly agree with both of you. In particular, I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was just following a trend. 141.195.136.90 ( talk) 06:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, but I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was NOT just following a trend.
The whole article is very biased towards Mama's view of Dee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
what should we put in reference for the other charachters like Hakim-a-barber?-- 75.72.25.219 ( talk) 05:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
What about Dee's companion? I believe there should be a description of him to contrast Maggie's future husband, adding to the differences between the two sisters. 69.88.187.2 ( talk) 13:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)EMFP
bdfg bg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.133.60.104 ( talk) 23:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
It would be helpful to mention Maggie's severe burns since they contribute to much of her reserved behavior. Pat otoole ( talk) 16:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Under Hakim-a-barber's character description, I fixed minor grammatical errors and change the reason why Mama begins calling him this in the first place. He instructs her to call him Hakim-a-barber because she cannot pronounce his real name - Asalamalakim - not because she is unsure whether he is married to Dee or not. Kyacrichton ( talk) 17:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Mama's character description is very basic. Maybe adding something about how she values tradition and her heritage. Sbraith21 ( talk) 01:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I did not like how they made such a big description for Mama and Maggie when they weren't in the short story so much and they were not the best characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (Little to no plagiarism. I did however see many other sites fork information from Wikipedia with the correct mirroring info though.) -- GuyHimGuy ( talk) 02:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I believe this page could use a section on interpretations of the story, as it may be confusing to some readers. I will add information from an article by Barbara T. Christian. Lexymaz ( talk) 19:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I believe they could add some more in depth detail about the short story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:42, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
In the middle of the story Mama says that they did not mention, and she did not ask, if Dee married Asalamalakim. Where does it mention that the two are actually married? And if it does not should there be mention that it is just implied? Hbran21 ( talk) 21:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I feel having a whole section for symbols, and only having one symbol isn't enough. I am going to write about Mama's yard which is another symbol found in the story Mkade1 ( talk) 21:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I also am going to add another possible thing the quilt or quilting may represent to Mama and Maggie that Jennifer Martin mentions in her article " The Quilt Threads Together Sisterhood, Empowerment and Nature in Alice Walker's The Color Purple and Everyday Use". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.208.167.57 ( talk) 01:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC) I also added information from the essay "The Quilt Threads Together Sisterhood, Empowerment and Nature in Alice Walker's 'The Color Purple' and 'Everyday Use.'" I added how it quilting helped bond females in the African American culture.16:26, 25 November 2020 (UTC) Jfida2 ( talk)
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I am going to add an other interpretation of the story from the essay “Stylish vs.Sacred in “Everyday Use” by Houston A. Baker and Charlotter Pierce-Baker. [1] Agard6 ( talk) 03:50, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the section under "Interpretations" about Barbara T. Christian's article needs more clarification. I believe she was more addressing the " tendency to idealize an ancient African American past while ignoring the recent African American past..." [2] I am going to add this under the already mentioned information! Mooodsy ( talk) 22:29, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
I think that adding some information about Elaine Showalter's, Quilt as Metaphor in "Everyday Use", would also be a good addition in the interpretation section. Sbraith21 ( talk) 00:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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I slightly reworded what was written in the themes section. I also expanded on it. Kyacrichton ( talk) 01:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Should really make the themes section a lot bigger of a deal in this article because it is a huge part of the short story in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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Why is there a director, producer, etc. listed in an article about a short story? Shouldn't that specifically be reserved for an article about the movie. Two entirely different things can't be combined, all of that should be deleted until there's a separate article. Promontoriumispromontorium ( talk) 00:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I added a bit under the "Reception" Section using Elaine Showalter's "Quilt as a metaphor in 'Everyday Life'" explaining another interpretation of Dee and Maggie G.Sant6 ( talk) 16:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Should never have added an entire section on how quilting was such a huge thing back then and the history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Is it worth it to put spoiler notices in this article?-- Martin925 03:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so, there isn't much to spoil.-- 69.183.219.251 17:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thi story is a wonderful story about culture and how oppsites comibne forces to be ne
ja..ɸ —.197.84]] (
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23:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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Yes it is worth it to put spoilers in here. You come to wiki looking for information, and maybe a 'leg up' on your fellow classmates. Jeffersonman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffersonman85 ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
>"The meaning of the title requires the reader to read deeper within the short story. "
What does this mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.214.44 ( talk) 01:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I feel like the description of the characters and the story is very biased. I am studying this short story and the interpretation of Dee as a "selfish" young woman who is simply following a trend when she tries to deepen her association with her heritage is just that - an interpretation. We can't know if that's actually true as Mama's judgment of Dee is heavily biased.
The description of Dee in this article is similar to the one Mama would make, but it doesn't acknowledge that her point of view is really crooked (one example among many: at some point in the story Mama makes the comment that she actually believes Dee would've danced around the ashes of their burned house.. hard to believe anyone would dance around the ashes of their own home).
So this article needs to be revised for bias. - Kuгtѕκγωαικєг Talk/ Contrıbs 23:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Mama's Story
It is important to remember that this is Mama's story told from Mama's point of view. I also agree that there's too much editorialising in the description of Dee, i.e. "Dee is selfish" "Dee just wants to follow the latest trends." I don't need to be told that Dee is selfish because it's obvious enough (she tries to claim her own sister's wedding presents); however, if she were shy and submissive like Maggie, she would never have escaped the traditional family poverty. As for following the latest trend--what Walker is critiquing, I think, is not Dee's search for an African identity (Walker did that herself) but the way she rejects her own family traditions in favor of this new identity. From the mother's point of view, why should someone who rejects her grandmother's name be given her grandmother's quilts?
Can you show me where the author says it is, "Mama's bitch ass story," please? Doesn't seem like she would use this vulgar language. Lwarn1 ( talk) 17:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
BTW--since Dee apparently regarded her mother's home as a prison, dancing around in its ashes seems appropriate enough, metaphorically speaking. After all, this is fiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.246.101 ( talk) 22:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Strongly agree with both of you. In particular, I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was just following a trend. 141.195.136.90 ( talk) 06:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, but I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was NOT just following a trend.
The whole article is very biased towards Mama's view of Dee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
what should we put in reference for the other charachters like Hakim-a-barber?-- 75.72.25.219 ( talk) 05:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
What about Dee's companion? I believe there should be a description of him to contrast Maggie's future husband, adding to the differences between the two sisters. 69.88.187.2 ( talk) 13:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)EMFP
bdfg bg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.133.60.104 ( talk) 23:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
It would be helpful to mention Maggie's severe burns since they contribute to much of her reserved behavior. Pat otoole ( talk) 16:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Under Hakim-a-barber's character description, I fixed minor grammatical errors and change the reason why Mama begins calling him this in the first place. He instructs her to call him Hakim-a-barber because she cannot pronounce his real name - Asalamalakim - not because she is unsure whether he is married to Dee or not. Kyacrichton ( talk) 17:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Mama's character description is very basic. Maybe adding something about how she values tradition and her heritage. Sbraith21 ( talk) 01:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I did not like how they made such a big description for Mama and Maggie when they weren't in the short story so much and they were not the best characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (Little to no plagiarism. I did however see many other sites fork information from Wikipedia with the correct mirroring info though.) -- GuyHimGuy ( talk) 02:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I believe this page could use a section on interpretations of the story, as it may be confusing to some readers. I will add information from an article by Barbara T. Christian. Lexymaz ( talk) 19:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I believe they could add some more in depth detail about the short story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:42, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
In the middle of the story Mama says that they did not mention, and she did not ask, if Dee married Asalamalakim. Where does it mention that the two are actually married? And if it does not should there be mention that it is just implied? Hbran21 ( talk) 21:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I feel having a whole section for symbols, and only having one symbol isn't enough. I am going to write about Mama's yard which is another symbol found in the story Mkade1 ( talk) 21:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I also am going to add another possible thing the quilt or quilting may represent to Mama and Maggie that Jennifer Martin mentions in her article " The Quilt Threads Together Sisterhood, Empowerment and Nature in Alice Walker's The Color Purple and Everyday Use". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.208.167.57 ( talk) 01:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC) I also added information from the essay "The Quilt Threads Together Sisterhood, Empowerment and Nature in Alice Walker's 'The Color Purple' and 'Everyday Use.'" I added how it quilting helped bond females in the African American culture.16:26, 25 November 2020 (UTC) Jfida2 ( talk)
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I am going to add an other interpretation of the story from the essay “Stylish vs.Sacred in “Everyday Use” by Houston A. Baker and Charlotter Pierce-Baker. [1] Agard6 ( talk) 03:50, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the section under "Interpretations" about Barbara T. Christian's article needs more clarification. I believe she was more addressing the " tendency to idealize an ancient African American past while ignoring the recent African American past..." [2] I am going to add this under the already mentioned information! Mooodsy ( talk) 22:29, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
I think that adding some information about Elaine Showalter's, Quilt as Metaphor in "Everyday Use", would also be a good addition in the interpretation section. Sbraith21 ( talk) 00:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
References
I slightly reworded what was written in the themes section. I also expanded on it. Kyacrichton ( talk) 01:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Should really make the themes section a lot bigger of a deal in this article because it is a huge part of the short story in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loudon27 ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)