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Why would you even add that section? ...Well, not too hard to guess it's a biased pro-EU writer but... The EU is not a nation state, nor is it a state at all for that matter. Nor is it a federal republic for that matter. No matter what wet dreams of empire the author of that section must have had, "European" is NOT IN ANY WAY even remotely a correct demonym for an EU 'citizen'. If so, people from French Guyana, Guadelope, and a number of (but not all) other post-colonial areas of the EU would have citizens called "Europeans" (try telling a person from French Guyana this). Further, the Swiss, Norwegians, Balkan state citizens, Moldovans, etc. ARE Europeans.
The demonym "European" refers to people from Europe. Not people from the EU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.150.155 ( talk) 12:17, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Could somebody add the Welsh name for the European Union? It's 'Undeb Ewropeaidd'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:4429:DD00:BD7F:31EF:74D8:A4BD ( talk) 04:36, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
We don't need "leaving" tacked on to this list like an afterthought. Leave this to the body of the article, please. Britmax ( talk) 21:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Britain left the EU. Change the map already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfredKappel ( talk • contribs) 09:04, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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Remove Britain.
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Please could you add the flag for the city of London (
/info/en/?search=Flag_of_the_City_of_London#/media/File:Flag_of_the_City_of_London.svg) in the demographics section. Currently it is the only city without a flag on the list.
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This is because "they" reads oddly to UK readers, as if the article is written by and for people in some other country, whereas "it" is more neutral to all readers.
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Hi, actually there should be a section about critical reviews and issues faced by the Union. It's a constant topic regarding the EU and the root of various political movements across the continent, so shouldn't be ignored in an objective encyclopedic article. Of course, it could also be an independet article that covers Euroscepticism, the Democratic deficit in the European Union and Withdrawal from the European Union among other factors, and explains these phenomena. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 13:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
The fact that, the UK referendum was non-legally mandatory?
See the article about the UK's EU referendum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.117.13.154 ( talk) 10:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Luxembourgish is not an offical language of the European Union, therefore has no status on the infobox with all the other offical languages
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Jamesmstewart ( talk) 11:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Also what about the speculation about the EU evolving into a nation state federation thingy?
And will Turkey EVER get to join the EU? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.41.49 ( talk) 20:08, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
See the article on the Military of the European Union. Dimadick ( talk) 16:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
A small notice. But I learned that Northern Cyprus is not part of the EU, yet the entire island is coloured green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostpunk ( talk • contribs) 01:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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You will need to remove the UK from the list of members, the UK left the EU recently. 107.223.195.192 ( talk) 00:14, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
May as well, if you're not going to bother stating this on all relevant EU articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.248.239 ( talk • contribs)
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In the info box it says:
Drives on the right[f] (expect UK)
Should read:
Drives on the right[f] (except UK)
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Can someone edit the number in the economy section? They are from 2009, while Economy of the european union has numbers from 2011. Would be nice to update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.5.15.37 ( talk) 17:20, 15 November 2014 Significant! Candidates for acceding: Turkey and Albania. Leaving the Grichenland (England as a possible candidacy). Also . A huge potential for the incitement of evildoing in industrialized countries the EU. For example, via EU Food Help with a powerful addition of [ corticosteroid drugs] (for children and adults in the same stroke dosing). Michail Veselov ( talk) 14:02, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland moved out of the European Union. 2601:408:8002:6879:1445:D55A:1540:8E03 ( talk) 01:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Clicking on the ranking in the infobox for area or population should take the reader to a page that provides further detail. The EU doesn't appear in the rankings on either page, however, as they are of "sovereign states and dependencies" or "countries and dependencies". These rankings shouldn't, therefore, appear in the infobox, as they can only confuse, not inform, the reader. Others, including GDP, are debatable, too, but at least the EU appears as an unofficial entry in such tables. Views? EddieHugh ( talk) 23:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Add in "Merkelsreich" as a alias of the European Union. Schwiiz ( talk) 20:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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In the list of countries, the capital of the Netherlands should be DEN HAAG (not Amsterdam as it says in the article). Luc colpaert ( talk) 08:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Paris has a population of 2,229,621, while Berlin has a population of 3,520,031. 2602:306:CC42:8340:C192:F13E:9B29:4620 ( talk) 01:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
The "chart" at p. 7 of http://europa.eu/rapid/attachment/IP-17-385/en/White%20Paper%20on%20the%20future%20of%20Europe.pdf , which outlines the members of EU, Eurozone, EFTA, EEA, ECU, CoE and NATO, is rather effective. Nemo 21:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello to all. In section "Urbanisation", the table with the biggest cities in the EU (larger urban zones with the largest population) uses as source the corresponding EUROSTAT statistic, which is a table presenting country and city information in different years. The problem with this is that the latest statistics have incomplete data and specifically miss completely Ireland, Denmark and Greece, and their cities. As a result, the larger urban zone of Athens, which in 2014 had a population of 3,863,763 (as also shown in the corresponding wikipedia article) is missing from the table. I am not sure if the solution given in the Larger urban zone article is correct (i.e., mixing sizes from different years) or in fact a breach of WP:OR; however, the table of this article is completely wrong as it is untrue and based on a source, which is reliable in general but in this particular statistic is not.
What do you think? Should we use the same solution as the one used in the "Larger urban zone" article? Should the table be removed? Personally, unless a reliable source can be identified, I am more inclined towards the latter. Rentzepopoulos ( talk) 17:51, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Muslims in France and Germany alone are more than 2%. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.138.239.137 ( talk) 07:55, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Quelle : https://euvsdisinfo.eu/ In Brussels, FSB-SVR & GRU reside. Clear thing, via Agente in administration, police, politics, foreigner police, municipal administrations. Just like "Soldiers on Fortun" from different nations. A stateless half - Judah from USSR, after the 8 years psychiatric hospital. Successfully migrated back to Leningrad. Thank you Mister President! Where appropriate, - by Söme Andrei Ravinardi. DerNechste ( talk) 14:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
The ethnic groups section should be removed. The ethnic section is full of wrong information.
First of all, the ethnic group section has invented the idea of a "British ethnicity", which does not exist. There are the English people, Welsh people and Scottish people, but certainly not the British people, whose status as an ethnic group is not shared by any respectable study or institution, or even the UK Government itself, and the Wikipedia article explicitly states it is merely a citizenship. More than that
Secondly, and by far the largest problem, the infobox ethnic groupings make the absolutely factually incorrect assumption that every nation in the European Union is a 100% homogeneous part of itself. Germany is not 100% German, therefore dividing Germany's population by the European Union's population and multiplying by 100 to give the quoted percentage figure is simply misleading. Not only does the infobox ignore the concept of a non-citizen immigrant, it also groups ethnic minority citizens with ethnically native citizens.
Office of National Statistics states that there are only 57 000 000 British citizens in the United Kingdom, not the 65 million (total population) that were used to calculate this 'ethnic group' percentage figure. Furthermore, just 1.8 million people are Northern Irish, 37.6 million are English, 5.2 million are Scottish and 3.8 million are Welsh, giving a total collective 'ethnically native' population of 48 400 000 residents which are ethnic natives of one of the Four Nations, which is a figure that is dramatically lower than the 65 million used to calculate the supposed British share of EU's ethnic citizens.
The same is true of Germany, where the Bundesamt fur Migration und Fluchtlinge has calculated that only 80% of the nation is ethnically German, which gives us a figure of 65 million. This means that Germany's true share of the ethnic makeup of the European Union is actually 12.86% (65 600 000/510 000 000), radically lower than the almost 16% quoted.
It seems many users of this website seem to have mixed up ethnicity with population — Preceding unsigned comment added by PanthWiki ( talk • contribs) 17:50, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
<Russians leaving the EU in droves.>“Disappointed with life abroad, Russians now return to Russia”. This headline went viral in Russian media last week after its initial publication in Kremlin-loyal Izvestiya. It was quickly picked up and quoted by pro-Kremlin outlets, among them..."( https://euvsdisinfo.eu/) DesinformationReview ( talk) 17:31, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
According to one of three lists, the other two say the second (after the USA). Brexit doesn't help either. Xx236 ( talk) 08:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
everyone said the eu map would be changed to show the uk in a ligher shade of green when article 50 is triggered. it has now been triggered but the map hasnt changed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 12:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
What's the feeling with what to do with the infobox map? Are we going to colour the UK differently after tomorrow, since it will be in the official withdrawal process? -- Inops ( talk) 21:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Agree with Inops, colour it light green on the map indicating that process of withdrawal has commenced. -- ZygonLieutenant ( talk) 12:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
i am not a brexit supporter but why are the goal posts being moved again? after the result of the referendum the consensus was that 'oh the vote is not binding we will only change the map when article 50 is triggered' and now article 50 has been activated the goal posts are being moved when everyone here had already agreed on that course of action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.65.111 ( talk) 18:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello all. I've boldly coloured the UK on the map using hatched green and grey. if it's been reverted, please see version as of 22:04, 29 March 2017. I think this is an effective and subtle way to illustrate that the UK is transitioning from being a member state (green) to non-member (grey). It's true that the UK does not become a partial member state during the process and I agree a lighter green is not appropriate. However, the UK is leaving the EU, and we are already seeing this manifest itself in some ways. For example, the prime minister of the UK has stopped attending meetings on the future of the EU (and has not even been invited to some), and the country has decided not to take up its scheduled presidency of the EU Council next year. Rob984 ( talk) 21:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Indeed it has been reverted, please see version as of 22:04, 29 March 2017 for my proposal. Rob984 ( talk) 21:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Imo there's only one relevant question: did the status of the UK within the EU change with the start of negotiations? And no - it did not. In the slightest. The UK is a fully-fledged member of the Union, just as it was yesterday. All that's happened is that it officially started to move towards one day NOT being a member of the Union. That direction has implications for its future status, but does not change its current status.
In other words, the UK is negotiating to change its status in the future. It hasn't actually done so. There is no middle ground between being a member and not being one. The same logic by which we might change the UK's appearance on the map - arguably warrants that we add candidate countries as well. Should countries negotiating to get into the Union be in light green as well?
Look, the media are just hyping this up to be a bigger deal than it actually is, for the sake of ratings. We're kind of riding that "wave" at the moment and probably need to step back. In reality not much has changed beyond a legal formality being filed: the UK announced its intention to exit a long time ago and it has practically been "in the process" of exiting since that moment. -- Director ( talk) 22:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
a quick question. Theresa may has hinted that there may be a cut off date of new eu nationals being able to remain the uk before the date we actually leave. She has hinted that she may set the date article 50 has been triggered.(Therefore any eu nationals who had settled in the uk after the 29/03/2017 would not be able to remain living here when we left) this position may be clarified fairly early in negotiations. If this is the case and this is confirmed this would indicate we were no longer a full member if we are no longer honouring freedom of movement one of the core eu principles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 08:54, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
In my opinion, it needs to be shown that the UK is withdrawing from the EU, and the easiest and most simple way is to change the colour the UK is. CH7i5 ( talk) 11:11, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the animation to include a 2017 frame with the UK turning red to signify Article 50. No doubt this will get reverted by someone, but I think the argument of "yes-no, a member state?" doesn't apply to the animation, given it's about the territorial evolution of the EU, of which Brexit *will* effect. -- Inops ( talk) 22:39, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Please discuss on the talk page rather than attempting to circumvent objections.
perhaps it should be mentioned after the mention of article 50 that the article has been actioned by the UK. In any event, it seems strange that Brexit in mentioned nowhere in this page ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.13.36.9 ( talk) 11:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
The Article 50 letter has been officially delivered. Recommend editing of EU maps and reduction to 27 member states throughout the wiki article [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.246.254.12 ( talk) 13:35, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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Different coloring would indicate a different status in the Union
@Rob984 That's speculative musing that doesn't warrant a locator map change. Officially the United Kingdom has every right to say as to the future of the Union. It has not been denied any rights as such. In practice that may be true, but if so it was true since May stated the country's intention to leave, not since yesterday. And such legally-unfounded "estimates" as to how much rights the UK now "really" has in the Union - do not justify modification of the map. Which depicts the official extent of the European Union.
If the map is changed to have the UK in light green, as we "estimate" it is henceforward unofficially some kind of "pseudo-member" (or whatever the argument is), I'm going to ask that candidate states be included as well. Surely they might be "estimated" to have some unofficial influence in the EU by the same nebulous reasoning? -- Director ( talk) 23:19, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
we are 13% of the eu's population. The UK leaving is going to be a huge change in the very nature of the EU why is there such a small mention on this page? To compare it with the situation of Croatia joining with a population of 4 million is a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:7882:B600:C85A:F6B5:520A:9384 ( talk) 20:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
We are also 16% of the EU's economy by GDP why does the UK leaving have no mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:7882:B600:C85A:F6B5:520A:9384 ( talk) 20:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the UK is currently de facto a full member state. However we have activated article 50 that means realistically we will leave and that isnt speculation. the UK is the first and only country to leave(i know parts of countries have left like greenland) that is a huge change in the paradigm of the european union. This event should be better represented in this article. I didnt mean any disrespect to croatia I was simply pointing out croatia has a population of 4 million compared to the UK's population of around 65 million. — Preceding
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Not totally sure about what has gone into affect yet but is London and the UK still in the EU? And if so I believe London should be taken off it's largest cities list. 2601:681:4D03:B800:78FD:BEEB:6BE3:BA31 ( talk) 01:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Possessing the sole power of legislative initiative, the Commission is by definition the legislature of the Union, as expressed here: [1] [2] [3] This is consistent with Wikipedia's established definition of legislature, as expressed in Legislature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaurnheart ( talk • contribs) 17:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC) While Parliaments in national governments are typically the legislature, it is made clear that the European Parliament is a unique institution, unlike national parliaments. Given the lack of sources, it seems that assumption is the reason behind the legislature being labelled as 'European Parliament'.
Alternatively, in conformity with the Politics section, it may be appropriate to either label the legislature threefold (Council, Commission, and Parliament) or simply to link to the Politics section, as the answer is not a simple one.
Vaurnheart ( talk) 17:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I see the point you make about Private Member's Bills, but I would disagree that it is equivalent, since their difficulty is a circumstantial one (composition of the House) and not a legally impossible one, as in the EP (which can only send non-binding recommendations to the Commission as per the Lisbon Treaty). There is no equivalent to the PMBs in the EU: nothing can pass without the pre-approval of the Commission, so long as they "inform the European Parliament of the reasons" (Article 225 TFEU). I also wouldn't equate the Commission with the Government in the UK, since the UK's Government is elected. I definitely agree with your decision to simply link to the politics section. The co-decision process is too unique to compare to other legislatures, and we should leave it to readers to make their own judgement. I don't think anyone could express this arrangement in only a few words! Vaurnheart ( talk) 14:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Another matter is that there is a tendency in parts of Wikipedia to describe the EU's legislative system as 'bicameral', between the Parliament and the Council of the EU, with the Commission apparently unimportant. I have been unable to find any evidence for this description either within the EU or without. I would suggest that we remove references to it, such as the Council of the EU as an "Upper House", and "the other half of the legislature is the Parliament", in favour of a more direct explanation. Allegory doesn't seem to fit here, nor have any evidencial basis. Vaurnheart ( talk) 16:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
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The last sentence of paragraph 2 states the following:
It is incorrect to state that no member state has left the EU or its antecedent organisations, because even later in the same Wikipedia article, it states the following under the heading 'Treaty of Rome':
To correct the error, I suggest editing the false statement to:
I have added Q11 (Legislature) and Q12 (President).
-- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 22:11, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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Poland area in the table is incorrect. LALea97 ( talk) 15:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
This subject has surely been already addressed in the talk page, but I could not find it with the search engine. This edit is controversial and regularly appears in the edit history.
The EU being commonly called "Europe" is de facto true, as you could literally find hundreds of newspapers using the term. That said, we need a secondary and academical source to support that fact, which I could not find yet. Is there any WP editor who would object adding the sentence "[...], commonly called Europe" if I (or any other editor) can find a reliable and secondary source to support it? Azerty82 ( talk) 12:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
The Media Section states 'Media freedom is a fundamental right that applies to all member states of the European Union and its citizens, as defined in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights as well as the European Convention on Human Rights.[302]:1 Within the EU enlargement process, guaranteeing media freedom is named a "key indicator of a country's readiness to become part of the EU"
Which factually, cannot be correct. the French protests, tear-gassing, water cannon use, deaths, amputations, loss of limbs, and eyes, carried out on French citizens, by President Macron's thugs, and vehicles with the EU flag painted over, have not been reported in Any British Press. (BBC , SKY, ITV) nothing) as GB is, and has been a member of the EU for the last year, since the protests have been happening, the only logical conclusion, is that the statement above in the wikipedia article.. is in, fact, incorrect. (The hong kong protests are covered daily) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.80.229 ( talk) 02:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
The Brexit will occur on 2019, due to the undergoing exit procedures, and not the opposite. Additionally, the undergoing exit procedures is due to a British decision compatible with the constitutional order of the United Kingdom.
I would have written Currently undergoing exit procedures known as Brexit rather than Currently undergoing exit procedures due to Brexit, or I would have written Currently undergoing exit procedures known as Brexit due to a British decision to clarify that EU was not the decider of such a decision when UK was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.96.193 ( talk • contribs) 01:10, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
The article is semi-protected. I therefore ask the editors of this article to consider the following changes in the section on the European Commission. As it stands, the description is unfair and probably driven by British tabloid propaganda.
- "The Commission is also seen as the motor of European integration."
May I suggest to delete this sentence as this is an extremely controversial statement. Why is the commission the motor of European intergration? There is no reference for this claim.
- "The European Commission acts as the EU's executive arm and is responsible for initiating legislation and the day-to-day running of the EU".
This is not wrong, but the reality is that the parliament has extended authority to decline, change and modify and proposed piece of legislation. May I suggest the addition "Parliament is free thereafter to change and modify any proposed legislation at will".
- The other 26 Commissioners are subsequently appointed by the Council of the European Union in agreement with the nominated President.
This should be "The other 26 Commissioners are likewise elected by qualified majority vote in the Council in agreement with the nominated president".
- "The 28 Commissioners as a single body are subject to a vote of approval by the European Parliament."
This should come with the addition: "The parliament can at any time impeach the commission." Rominator ( talk) 06:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
It's not exact that passport controls have been abolished within the Schengen area. Passport controls have been abolished in the whole Europeean union since it was European community: instead of the passport, European citizens can show their national identity card* (even in the UK, where identity cards don't exist). In the Schengen area there is not any control and for this reason nobody, even a foreign citizen**, neither needs passport nor ID card. -- 5.90.128.65 ( talk) 07:20, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
* an identity card or equivalent document issued by a member state of which they hold the citizenship. ** it's assumed that he has been identified once at his first arrive in the Union.
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Change largest city London to administrative headquarters Brussels.
Since: largest city of European Union doesn't matter, especially since London isn't important purely from an administrative point of view. Brussels is cleary the home of the EU, although it's not the capital since the EU doesn't have a capital. Brussels should be mentioned, and at this moment you can read no where anything on the administrative HQ. 2A02:1811:C51D:B300:644F:A325:E747:4ACC ( talk) 23:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
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Update president of the council from Donald Tusk to Charles Michel. /info/en/?search=Charles_Michel, Since he became president of the council on 29/11-19 87.241.87.182 ( talk) 21:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better to talk about the "European Council" instead of "the council" 'cause this is generally short for "the Council of the European Union". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.221.97.180 ( talk) 21:48, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Dear Editors,
I'd just like to draw your attention to the fact that the coat of arms of Croatia included in this page in the section "Member states" is a wrong one. The one included here is of the Independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna država Hrvatska, NDH) which was a country formed during the WW2 under the nazi patronage. As far as I know, the use of this coat of arms is highly offensive and illegal. The coat of arms of the contemporary Republic of Croatia contains symbols of the country's regions on top of the red checker board (it should be more different form the NDH one in my opinion, but that's what the extreme right leaders of Croatia in the 90's chose; probably not a coincidence). Clicking on the coat of arms in the section "Member states", however, redirects to the correct one.
Please correct.
2A01:260:D004:FAD1:282C:AE7E:7A3A:16D8 ( talk) 13:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
The article’s introductory sentence seems awkward and misleading. It’s fine to address the issue that some of the territory is outside of Europe but that can be done elsewhere
Currently it reads :
“The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. Its members have a combined area of 4,475,757 km2(1,728,099 sq mi) and an estimated total population of about 513 million.”
A better opening would be:
“The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 European member states with a combined territory of 4,475,757 km2 (1,728,099 sq mi) located primarily in Europe and an estimated population of 513 million.”
In addition to the clarity offered, it also more closely matches the cited reference.
I’m proposing that edit but I will hold off to see if there might be any objections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parmaestro ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
'The United Kingdom and its independent territories are scheduled to leave the European Union by 31 January 2020.' It should say dependent territories. If they were 'independent' they wouldn't be leaving along with us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c7:2b88:5700:c53e:434f:8afb:dbcf ( talk) 14:18, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Under section 3 "Member states" there is a table. Why does this not have an extra column showing their currency and if they use the euro or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbf69 ( talk • contribs) 10:28, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't think the currency has anything to do with that table, which is mostly geographical details about the member states. By the same argument one could ask, why there is no column for the GDP per capita? Or why no column for the internet domain, or the calling code of each state? And so on. I think it's not appropriate to have that column in that section. Furthermore there is already a map with the states adopting the Euro in the Economy section of this article, one could expand the currency details of each state there. -- Ritchie92 ( talk) 07:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
History of the European Union since 2004
There is no mention of Brexit or the migration crisis apart from a single link in that article, please can it be updated significantly to include all the major and minor events within the European Union during the 2010s. Also I would like to propose that the article is ended with Brexit and that a brand new article is started that shows major events from within the European Union from the year 2020 or 2021 onwards. ( MOTORAL1987 ( talk) 16:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC))
I assume we'll be changing the membership from 28 to 27, after January 31, 2020. GoodDay ( talk) 00:59, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Whilst the blue map has omitted The UK from its colour, the green map still has The UK coloured in as before January 31, 2020. Only when you click on the image does The UK appear grey.
The article United Kingdom invocation of Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union has been dormant for quite some time and has not been been updated to include the extension of article 50 in any detail to 31 January 2020. Please can the relevant updates be added to the article. ( 2A02:C7F:5622:2000:D0F1:23A4:8CAB:B928 ( talk) 15:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC))
The EU is de facto a Confederation I think we should add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
That doesn't look like as it's shown in the table. Why?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.2.87.212 ( talk) 21:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
As a remain voter in the Brexit referendum I have to say that the only thing I'm looking to about Brexit is that you stubborn editors will finally have to update the map after refusing to give the UK a lighter shade of green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 13:18, 29 March 2018
Please add Euro English as "De Facto" Language and connect it to the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello so today is brexit
please update info, I would do it but article is secured
have a nice day bye — Preceding
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Don't change anything before — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viktaur ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Is it just me who thinks there should be a criticism section in the article - for example the EU's anti-democraticness and federalism by the Von der Leyen Commission? ( Airline7375 ( talk) 21:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC))
Now that the UK has left, these statistics need to be recalculated and replaced in the article. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 23:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
In general, good work fellow editors. There was a bit of premature editing, but most, if not all, of it was done in good faith. The world is watching this page and from one editor to another, thank you for your commitment to accuracy and quality. Cheers! PubliusJ ( talk) 23:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Midnight, gentlemen. I trust all seasoned Wiki cartographers are poised to spring at 12:01am GMT. Hanoi Road ( talk) 09:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
The withdrawal agreement specifically states that extending the transition period is not permitted. So how can brexit take "up to two years"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.80.121 ( talk) 09:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Among other maps that need to be updated to show the UK's EU withdrawal, most of the maps at Future enlargement of the European Union, as well as File:Potential Superpowers.svg need to be updated. --14:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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On account of the fact that the EU is coloured blue and not green. 81.156.12.102 ( talk) 14:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
The green EU map still has The UK coloured in when it is displayed on the Wikipedia page instead of the blue EU map which doesn't. Go with blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.42.83 ( talk) 14:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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In the Lisbon Treaty (2007–present) section: change "increasing migration from the Middle East" to "increasing migration from Asia and Africa", because migrants also came from Africa and nations to the east of the Middle East. 92.40.177.182 ( talk) 11:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
One EU Member Cyprus, has two official languages Greek and Turkish. So why Turkish is not among the official languages of the EU? -- JeanisDL ( talk), 31 January 2020, 2:10 (UTC)
De facto English is the main language of the EU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:04, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Is English formally an offical language of the UE? Xpicto ( talk) 23:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Robincard: Do you have a source for English no longer being an official language? Previous sources have said that it would continue to be one after Brexit unless there is a unanimous vote by all member states to remove it, which I highly doubt has happened given the inconvenience that would cause. 0x9fff00 ( talk) 23:41, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
One particular criticism regarding the EU is the (now) undisclosed expense system, as documented here by a former MEP, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqdNbjhvlxA
Also, the cost associated with relocating the parliament. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.103.147 ( talk) 07:32, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Here: /info/en/?search=Brexit#/media/File:UK_location_in_the_EU_2016.svg
... the map displays the markers for each country that is a member of the EU.
Here, it does not: /info/en/?search=European_Union#/media/File:Global_European_Union.svg
As such, this implies that the EU is a single country, when of course it is not.
In terms of accuracy of represented visual information, this is the correct method of display: /info/en/?search=European_Union#/media/File:EC-EU-enlargement_animation.gif
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.103.147 ( talk • contribs) 06:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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I have decided and I hope you will support me To cross out the United Kingdom like this in the ratification pages of the Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon treaties as we need to show although the UK signed and ratified the treaties they are no longer a member state and no longer bound by those treaties but still shows they were a part of the ratification process.(
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The last Polity Withdrawn essentially suggests that multiple countries have withdrawn from the EU - so far and presently only the UK as withdrawn from the EU.
This should be changed. Theprussian ( talk) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I think we should be careful not to overdo it with Brexit edits, and by that I mean let's be as judicious as possible with removing references to the UK. The UK has left the EU, but the UK's 47-year membership in the EU should not be understated in this article. It is okay to leave mentions of the UK that are in the context of historical data, e.g. economic and population statistics, and of course its role in the EU's political development and general history. Thoughts? PubliusJ ( talk) 01:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Previously the largest city has referred to the city proper. This means that Paris should be in the parameter. IWI ( chat) 00:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Jamesmstewart ( talk) 21:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Berlin is bigger than Paris within city limits. The population of Berlin is 3,748,148 the population of Paris is 2,140,526. Luis9595 ( talk) 15:08, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
The map is still showing the UK as a member state, anyone know how to fix this? JJARichardson ( talk) 18:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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Remove the United Kingdom from the map titled "Classification of regions from 2014 to 2020" Dkm49 ( talk) 14:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
We have a couple of new maps, one with borders and one without. The one with borders (that are for the most part unrelated to the EU) shows the wrong border for Western Sahara. This is not acceptable in an encyclopedia. M.Bitton ( talk) 23:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, adding the missing border and arguing to keep what's not supposed to be there on the ground that the work is based on an earlier version does not make the updated one any less wrong.
Please let me know what you want to do.
The wall (the berm) is not considered as a border by the the United Nations.
you had no problem with it last month when you uploaded...
Change the map without consensus and you will be reverted per Commons policy (COM:OVERWRITE). Upload a new map and you will need consensus to add it to this article.You changed the map. Did you seek consensus for it? M.Bitton ( talk) 00:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
You changed the map. Did you seek consensus for it?
this map is in respect of the EU, not the UNFor the EU (not that it matters in this case) the map of Western Sahara looks no different than that of the UN. See page 9 and 6 of these EU documents. [1] [2] The berm (which also runs inside the Moroccan territory) is usually only shown and described as such in articles that deal specifically with the conflict. M.Bitton ( talk) 01:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
the map of Western Sahara looks no different than that of the UN.
I say the UK is still part of the "political and economic" union, so this consists of 27 member states, and 1 non-member ttate, the latter of course being the UK. -- Tomb Blaster ( talk) 16:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
This article is about the EU. Not former members of the EU. Whilst Brexit deserves a prominent position in the body of the article, it does not warrant a mention in the lead. I didnt want to delete the paragraph without input from others, but it should be deleted/moved from the intro. At least, a vote should be held on that? 2.70.15.131 ( talk) 19:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Should the EU be a Confederal Republic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaiBrown1204 ( talk • contribs) 22:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Basically the title of this section. Akrotiri and Dhekelia should be removed from the map due to their status as UK Sovereign Base Areas and are no longer a part of the EU. Chess (talk) Ping when replying 20:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
This article is about the European Union, which was founded in 1993. In the history section, there's a very brief mention of empires that once covered most of Europe, and a link to the article Ideas of European unity before 1945. However, I don't see how that warrants having three maps of Europe more than 1,000 years ago in this small section. How are maps of Europe in the 1st century and 9th century AD relevant to an article about a union in the 21st century? It wrongly implies that the EU is somehow a descendant of the Roman and Frankish empires. Also, the map of Indo-European migrations from 4,000 BC is utterly unwarranted. ~ Asarlaí 22:23, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion at talk:Member state of the European Union#Splitting proposal on the case for a new article, Member states of the European Union [plural] to be created. Contributions welcome. -- Red King ( talk) 18:22, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
The "impact" section contains nothing but positive platitudes that could be integrated into the rest of the article, and clearly amounts to a "support section". I propose that it be removed or balanced out by criticism, of which plenty has been offered by reputable sources. Speed74 ( talk) 15:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Could or should it not be in another colour to contrast it against the current member states, with the colour (for the UK) coming under "former members"? -- Trans-Neptunian object ( talk) 20:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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Under Defense policy, the image with NATO members needs to be updated from 3 to 4 Candidate States in NATO I.E., Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Turkey 100.36.123.121 ( talk) 02:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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04:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)I don't see any link to the EU website's front page ( https://europa.eu/). Shouldn't that be in the information box at the top of the article, as it is for other international organizations (NATO, e.g.)? I'd add it there but don't know how to. 74.71.66.176 ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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I suggest changing the pie chart under the budget section to this cleaner and corrected one.
FROM THIS ONE: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EUMFF.png
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People often call the European Union "Europe" as a short-form term, especially as the EU government begins to become more united and federal. I think that in the beginning section, it should say "The European Union, also referred to as Europe, . . .". -- RaiBrown1204 ( talk) 02:53, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
the European Union, also referred to as Europeunambiguously communicates that they are the same in which case we'd have to change Europe to a redirect page and merge all its content into this page. This seems like a common sense issue to me. — Tartan357 ( Talk) 04:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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Why would you even add that section? ...Well, not too hard to guess it's a biased pro-EU writer but... The EU is not a nation state, nor is it a state at all for that matter. Nor is it a federal republic for that matter. No matter what wet dreams of empire the author of that section must have had, "European" is NOT IN ANY WAY even remotely a correct demonym for an EU 'citizen'. If so, people from French Guyana, Guadelope, and a number of (but not all) other post-colonial areas of the EU would have citizens called "Europeans" (try telling a person from French Guyana this). Further, the Swiss, Norwegians, Balkan state citizens, Moldovans, etc. ARE Europeans.
The demonym "European" refers to people from Europe. Not people from the EU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.150.155 ( talk) 12:17, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Could somebody add the Welsh name for the European Union? It's 'Undeb Ewropeaidd'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:4429:DD00:BD7F:31EF:74D8:A4BD ( talk) 04:36, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
We don't need "leaving" tacked on to this list like an afterthought. Leave this to the body of the article, please. Britmax ( talk) 21:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Britain left the EU. Change the map already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfredKappel ( talk • contribs) 09:04, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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Remove Britain.
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Please could you add the flag for the city of London (
/info/en/?search=Flag_of_the_City_of_London#/media/File:Flag_of_the_City_of_London.svg) in the demographics section. Currently it is the only city without a flag on the list.
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This is because "they" reads oddly to UK readers, as if the article is written by and for people in some other country, whereas "it" is more neutral to all readers.
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Hi, actually there should be a section about critical reviews and issues faced by the Union. It's a constant topic regarding the EU and the root of various political movements across the continent, so shouldn't be ignored in an objective encyclopedic article. Of course, it could also be an independet article that covers Euroscepticism, the Democratic deficit in the European Union and Withdrawal from the European Union among other factors, and explains these phenomena. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 13:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
The fact that, the UK referendum was non-legally mandatory?
See the article about the UK's EU referendum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.117.13.154 ( talk) 10:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Luxembourgish is not an offical language of the European Union, therefore has no status on the infobox with all the other offical languages
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Also what about the speculation about the EU evolving into a nation state federation thingy?
And will Turkey EVER get to join the EU? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.41.49 ( talk) 20:08, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
See the article on the Military of the European Union. Dimadick ( talk) 16:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
A small notice. But I learned that Northern Cyprus is not part of the EU, yet the entire island is coloured green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostpunk ( talk • contribs) 01:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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You will need to remove the UK from the list of members, the UK left the EU recently. 107.223.195.192 ( talk) 00:14, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
May as well, if you're not going to bother stating this on all relevant EU articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.248.239 ( talk • contribs)
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In the info box it says:
Drives on the right[f] (expect UK)
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Can someone edit the number in the economy section? They are from 2009, while Economy of the european union has numbers from 2011. Would be nice to update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.5.15.37 ( talk) 17:20, 15 November 2014 Significant! Candidates for acceding: Turkey and Albania. Leaving the Grichenland (England as a possible candidacy). Also . A huge potential for the incitement of evildoing in industrialized countries the EU. For example, via EU Food Help with a powerful addition of [ corticosteroid drugs] (for children and adults in the same stroke dosing). Michail Veselov ( talk) 14:02, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland moved out of the European Union. 2601:408:8002:6879:1445:D55A:1540:8E03 ( talk) 01:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Clicking on the ranking in the infobox for area or population should take the reader to a page that provides further detail. The EU doesn't appear in the rankings on either page, however, as they are of "sovereign states and dependencies" or "countries and dependencies". These rankings shouldn't, therefore, appear in the infobox, as they can only confuse, not inform, the reader. Others, including GDP, are debatable, too, but at least the EU appears as an unofficial entry in such tables. Views? EddieHugh ( talk) 23:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Add in "Merkelsreich" as a alias of the European Union. Schwiiz ( talk) 20:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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In the list of countries, the capital of the Netherlands should be DEN HAAG (not Amsterdam as it says in the article). Luc colpaert ( talk) 08:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Paris has a population of 2,229,621, while Berlin has a population of 3,520,031. 2602:306:CC42:8340:C192:F13E:9B29:4620 ( talk) 01:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
The "chart" at p. 7 of http://europa.eu/rapid/attachment/IP-17-385/en/White%20Paper%20on%20the%20future%20of%20Europe.pdf , which outlines the members of EU, Eurozone, EFTA, EEA, ECU, CoE and NATO, is rather effective. Nemo 21:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello to all. In section "Urbanisation", the table with the biggest cities in the EU (larger urban zones with the largest population) uses as source the corresponding EUROSTAT statistic, which is a table presenting country and city information in different years. The problem with this is that the latest statistics have incomplete data and specifically miss completely Ireland, Denmark and Greece, and their cities. As a result, the larger urban zone of Athens, which in 2014 had a population of 3,863,763 (as also shown in the corresponding wikipedia article) is missing from the table. I am not sure if the solution given in the Larger urban zone article is correct (i.e., mixing sizes from different years) or in fact a breach of WP:OR; however, the table of this article is completely wrong as it is untrue and based on a source, which is reliable in general but in this particular statistic is not.
What do you think? Should we use the same solution as the one used in the "Larger urban zone" article? Should the table be removed? Personally, unless a reliable source can be identified, I am more inclined towards the latter. Rentzepopoulos ( talk) 17:51, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Muslims in France and Germany alone are more than 2%. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.138.239.137 ( talk) 07:55, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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The ethnic groups section should be removed. The ethnic section is full of wrong information.
First of all, the ethnic group section has invented the idea of a "British ethnicity", which does not exist. There are the English people, Welsh people and Scottish people, but certainly not the British people, whose status as an ethnic group is not shared by any respectable study or institution, or even the UK Government itself, and the Wikipedia article explicitly states it is merely a citizenship. More than that
Secondly, and by far the largest problem, the infobox ethnic groupings make the absolutely factually incorrect assumption that every nation in the European Union is a 100% homogeneous part of itself. Germany is not 100% German, therefore dividing Germany's population by the European Union's population and multiplying by 100 to give the quoted percentage figure is simply misleading. Not only does the infobox ignore the concept of a non-citizen immigrant, it also groups ethnic minority citizens with ethnically native citizens.
Office of National Statistics states that there are only 57 000 000 British citizens in the United Kingdom, not the 65 million (total population) that were used to calculate this 'ethnic group' percentage figure. Furthermore, just 1.8 million people are Northern Irish, 37.6 million are English, 5.2 million are Scottish and 3.8 million are Welsh, giving a total collective 'ethnically native' population of 48 400 000 residents which are ethnic natives of one of the Four Nations, which is a figure that is dramatically lower than the 65 million used to calculate the supposed British share of EU's ethnic citizens.
The same is true of Germany, where the Bundesamt fur Migration und Fluchtlinge has calculated that only 80% of the nation is ethnically German, which gives us a figure of 65 million. This means that Germany's true share of the ethnic makeup of the European Union is actually 12.86% (65 600 000/510 000 000), radically lower than the almost 16% quoted.
It seems many users of this website seem to have mixed up ethnicity with population — Preceding unsigned comment added by PanthWiki ( talk • contribs) 17:50, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
<Russians leaving the EU in droves.>“Disappointed with life abroad, Russians now return to Russia”. This headline went viral in Russian media last week after its initial publication in Kremlin-loyal Izvestiya. It was quickly picked up and quoted by pro-Kremlin outlets, among them..."( https://euvsdisinfo.eu/) DesinformationReview ( talk) 17:31, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
According to one of three lists, the other two say the second (after the USA). Brexit doesn't help either. Xx236 ( talk) 08:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
everyone said the eu map would be changed to show the uk in a ligher shade of green when article 50 is triggered. it has now been triggered but the map hasnt changed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 12:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
What's the feeling with what to do with the infobox map? Are we going to colour the UK differently after tomorrow, since it will be in the official withdrawal process? -- Inops ( talk) 21:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Agree with Inops, colour it light green on the map indicating that process of withdrawal has commenced. -- ZygonLieutenant ( talk) 12:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
i am not a brexit supporter but why are the goal posts being moved again? after the result of the referendum the consensus was that 'oh the vote is not binding we will only change the map when article 50 is triggered' and now article 50 has been activated the goal posts are being moved when everyone here had already agreed on that course of action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.65.111 ( talk) 18:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello all. I've boldly coloured the UK on the map using hatched green and grey. if it's been reverted, please see version as of 22:04, 29 March 2017. I think this is an effective and subtle way to illustrate that the UK is transitioning from being a member state (green) to non-member (grey). It's true that the UK does not become a partial member state during the process and I agree a lighter green is not appropriate. However, the UK is leaving the EU, and we are already seeing this manifest itself in some ways. For example, the prime minister of the UK has stopped attending meetings on the future of the EU (and has not even been invited to some), and the country has decided not to take up its scheduled presidency of the EU Council next year. Rob984 ( talk) 21:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Indeed it has been reverted, please see version as of 22:04, 29 March 2017 for my proposal. Rob984 ( talk) 21:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Imo there's only one relevant question: did the status of the UK within the EU change with the start of negotiations? And no - it did not. In the slightest. The UK is a fully-fledged member of the Union, just as it was yesterday. All that's happened is that it officially started to move towards one day NOT being a member of the Union. That direction has implications for its future status, but does not change its current status.
In other words, the UK is negotiating to change its status in the future. It hasn't actually done so. There is no middle ground between being a member and not being one. The same logic by which we might change the UK's appearance on the map - arguably warrants that we add candidate countries as well. Should countries negotiating to get into the Union be in light green as well?
Look, the media are just hyping this up to be a bigger deal than it actually is, for the sake of ratings. We're kind of riding that "wave" at the moment and probably need to step back. In reality not much has changed beyond a legal formality being filed: the UK announced its intention to exit a long time ago and it has practically been "in the process" of exiting since that moment. -- Director ( talk) 22:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
a quick question. Theresa may has hinted that there may be a cut off date of new eu nationals being able to remain the uk before the date we actually leave. She has hinted that she may set the date article 50 has been triggered.(Therefore any eu nationals who had settled in the uk after the 29/03/2017 would not be able to remain living here when we left) this position may be clarified fairly early in negotiations. If this is the case and this is confirmed this would indicate we were no longer a full member if we are no longer honouring freedom of movement one of the core eu principles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 08:54, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
In my opinion, it needs to be shown that the UK is withdrawing from the EU, and the easiest and most simple way is to change the colour the UK is. CH7i5 ( talk) 11:11, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the animation to include a 2017 frame with the UK turning red to signify Article 50. No doubt this will get reverted by someone, but I think the argument of "yes-no, a member state?" doesn't apply to the animation, given it's about the territorial evolution of the EU, of which Brexit *will* effect. -- Inops ( talk) 22:39, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Please discuss on the talk page rather than attempting to circumvent objections.
perhaps it should be mentioned after the mention of article 50 that the article has been actioned by the UK. In any event, it seems strange that Brexit in mentioned nowhere in this page ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.13.36.9 ( talk) 11:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
The Article 50 letter has been officially delivered. Recommend editing of EU maps and reduction to 27 member states throughout the wiki article [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.246.254.12 ( talk) 13:35, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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@Rob984 That's speculative musing that doesn't warrant a locator map change. Officially the United Kingdom has every right to say as to the future of the Union. It has not been denied any rights as such. In practice that may be true, but if so it was true since May stated the country's intention to leave, not since yesterday. And such legally-unfounded "estimates" as to how much rights the UK now "really" has in the Union - do not justify modification of the map. Which depicts the official extent of the European Union.
If the map is changed to have the UK in light green, as we "estimate" it is henceforward unofficially some kind of "pseudo-member" (or whatever the argument is), I'm going to ask that candidate states be included as well. Surely they might be "estimated" to have some unofficial influence in the EU by the same nebulous reasoning? -- Director ( talk) 23:19, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
we are 13% of the eu's population. The UK leaving is going to be a huge change in the very nature of the EU why is there such a small mention on this page? To compare it with the situation of Croatia joining with a population of 4 million is a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:7882:B600:C85A:F6B5:520A:9384 ( talk) 20:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
We are also 16% of the EU's economy by GDP why does the UK leaving have no mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:7882:B600:C85A:F6B5:520A:9384 ( talk) 20:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the UK is currently de facto a full member state. However we have activated article 50 that means realistically we will leave and that isnt speculation. the UK is the first and only country to leave(i know parts of countries have left like greenland) that is a huge change in the paradigm of the european union. This event should be better represented in this article. I didnt mean any disrespect to croatia I was simply pointing out croatia has a population of 4 million compared to the UK's population of around 65 million. — Preceding
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Not totally sure about what has gone into affect yet but is London and the UK still in the EU? And if so I believe London should be taken off it's largest cities list. 2601:681:4D03:B800:78FD:BEEB:6BE3:BA31 ( talk) 01:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Possessing the sole power of legislative initiative, the Commission is by definition the legislature of the Union, as expressed here: [1] [2] [3] This is consistent with Wikipedia's established definition of legislature, as expressed in Legislature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaurnheart ( talk • contribs) 17:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC) While Parliaments in national governments are typically the legislature, it is made clear that the European Parliament is a unique institution, unlike national parliaments. Given the lack of sources, it seems that assumption is the reason behind the legislature being labelled as 'European Parliament'.
Alternatively, in conformity with the Politics section, it may be appropriate to either label the legislature threefold (Council, Commission, and Parliament) or simply to link to the Politics section, as the answer is not a simple one.
Vaurnheart ( talk) 17:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I see the point you make about Private Member's Bills, but I would disagree that it is equivalent, since their difficulty is a circumstantial one (composition of the House) and not a legally impossible one, as in the EP (which can only send non-binding recommendations to the Commission as per the Lisbon Treaty). There is no equivalent to the PMBs in the EU: nothing can pass without the pre-approval of the Commission, so long as they "inform the European Parliament of the reasons" (Article 225 TFEU). I also wouldn't equate the Commission with the Government in the UK, since the UK's Government is elected. I definitely agree with your decision to simply link to the politics section. The co-decision process is too unique to compare to other legislatures, and we should leave it to readers to make their own judgement. I don't think anyone could express this arrangement in only a few words! Vaurnheart ( talk) 14:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Another matter is that there is a tendency in parts of Wikipedia to describe the EU's legislative system as 'bicameral', between the Parliament and the Council of the EU, with the Commission apparently unimportant. I have been unable to find any evidence for this description either within the EU or without. I would suggest that we remove references to it, such as the Council of the EU as an "Upper House", and "the other half of the legislature is the Parliament", in favour of a more direct explanation. Allegory doesn't seem to fit here, nor have any evidencial basis. Vaurnheart ( talk) 16:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
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The last sentence of paragraph 2 states the following:
It is incorrect to state that no member state has left the EU or its antecedent organisations, because even later in the same Wikipedia article, it states the following under the heading 'Treaty of Rome':
To correct the error, I suggest editing the false statement to:
I have added Q11 (Legislature) and Q12 (President).
-- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 22:11, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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Poland area in the table is incorrect. LALea97 ( talk) 15:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
This subject has surely been already addressed in the talk page, but I could not find it with the search engine. This edit is controversial and regularly appears in the edit history.
The EU being commonly called "Europe" is de facto true, as you could literally find hundreds of newspapers using the term. That said, we need a secondary and academical source to support that fact, which I could not find yet. Is there any WP editor who would object adding the sentence "[...], commonly called Europe" if I (or any other editor) can find a reliable and secondary source to support it? Azerty82 ( talk) 12:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
The Media Section states 'Media freedom is a fundamental right that applies to all member states of the European Union and its citizens, as defined in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights as well as the European Convention on Human Rights.[302]:1 Within the EU enlargement process, guaranteeing media freedom is named a "key indicator of a country's readiness to become part of the EU"
Which factually, cannot be correct. the French protests, tear-gassing, water cannon use, deaths, amputations, loss of limbs, and eyes, carried out on French citizens, by President Macron's thugs, and vehicles with the EU flag painted over, have not been reported in Any British Press. (BBC , SKY, ITV) nothing) as GB is, and has been a member of the EU for the last year, since the protests have been happening, the only logical conclusion, is that the statement above in the wikipedia article.. is in, fact, incorrect. (The hong kong protests are covered daily) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.80.229 ( talk) 02:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
The Brexit will occur on 2019, due to the undergoing exit procedures, and not the opposite. Additionally, the undergoing exit procedures is due to a British decision compatible with the constitutional order of the United Kingdom.
I would have written Currently undergoing exit procedures known as Brexit rather than Currently undergoing exit procedures due to Brexit, or I would have written Currently undergoing exit procedures known as Brexit due to a British decision to clarify that EU was not the decider of such a decision when UK was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.96.193 ( talk • contribs) 01:10, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
The article is semi-protected. I therefore ask the editors of this article to consider the following changes in the section on the European Commission. As it stands, the description is unfair and probably driven by British tabloid propaganda.
- "The Commission is also seen as the motor of European integration."
May I suggest to delete this sentence as this is an extremely controversial statement. Why is the commission the motor of European intergration? There is no reference for this claim.
- "The European Commission acts as the EU's executive arm and is responsible for initiating legislation and the day-to-day running of the EU".
This is not wrong, but the reality is that the parliament has extended authority to decline, change and modify and proposed piece of legislation. May I suggest the addition "Parliament is free thereafter to change and modify any proposed legislation at will".
- The other 26 Commissioners are subsequently appointed by the Council of the European Union in agreement with the nominated President.
This should be "The other 26 Commissioners are likewise elected by qualified majority vote in the Council in agreement with the nominated president".
- "The 28 Commissioners as a single body are subject to a vote of approval by the European Parliament."
This should come with the addition: "The parliament can at any time impeach the commission." Rominator ( talk) 06:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
It's not exact that passport controls have been abolished within the Schengen area. Passport controls have been abolished in the whole Europeean union since it was European community: instead of the passport, European citizens can show their national identity card* (even in the UK, where identity cards don't exist). In the Schengen area there is not any control and for this reason nobody, even a foreign citizen**, neither needs passport nor ID card. -- 5.90.128.65 ( talk) 07:20, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
* an identity card or equivalent document issued by a member state of which they hold the citizenship. ** it's assumed that he has been identified once at his first arrive in the Union.
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Change largest city London to administrative headquarters Brussels.
Since: largest city of European Union doesn't matter, especially since London isn't important purely from an administrative point of view. Brussels is cleary the home of the EU, although it's not the capital since the EU doesn't have a capital. Brussels should be mentioned, and at this moment you can read no where anything on the administrative HQ. 2A02:1811:C51D:B300:644F:A325:E747:4ACC ( talk) 23:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
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Update president of the council from Donald Tusk to Charles Michel. /info/en/?search=Charles_Michel, Since he became president of the council on 29/11-19 87.241.87.182 ( talk) 21:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better to talk about the "European Council" instead of "the council" 'cause this is generally short for "the Council of the European Union". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.221.97.180 ( talk) 21:48, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Dear Editors,
I'd just like to draw your attention to the fact that the coat of arms of Croatia included in this page in the section "Member states" is a wrong one. The one included here is of the Independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna država Hrvatska, NDH) which was a country formed during the WW2 under the nazi patronage. As far as I know, the use of this coat of arms is highly offensive and illegal. The coat of arms of the contemporary Republic of Croatia contains symbols of the country's regions on top of the red checker board (it should be more different form the NDH one in my opinion, but that's what the extreme right leaders of Croatia in the 90's chose; probably not a coincidence). Clicking on the coat of arms in the section "Member states", however, redirects to the correct one.
Please correct.
2A01:260:D004:FAD1:282C:AE7E:7A3A:16D8 ( talk) 13:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
The article’s introductory sentence seems awkward and misleading. It’s fine to address the issue that some of the territory is outside of Europe but that can be done elsewhere
Currently it reads :
“The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. Its members have a combined area of 4,475,757 km2(1,728,099 sq mi) and an estimated total population of about 513 million.”
A better opening would be:
“The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 European member states with a combined territory of 4,475,757 km2 (1,728,099 sq mi) located primarily in Europe and an estimated population of 513 million.”
In addition to the clarity offered, it also more closely matches the cited reference.
I’m proposing that edit but I will hold off to see if there might be any objections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parmaestro ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
'The United Kingdom and its independent territories are scheduled to leave the European Union by 31 January 2020.' It should say dependent territories. If they were 'independent' they wouldn't be leaving along with us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c7:2b88:5700:c53e:434f:8afb:dbcf ( talk) 14:18, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Under section 3 "Member states" there is a table. Why does this not have an extra column showing their currency and if they use the euro or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbf69 ( talk • contribs) 10:28, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't think the currency has anything to do with that table, which is mostly geographical details about the member states. By the same argument one could ask, why there is no column for the GDP per capita? Or why no column for the internet domain, or the calling code of each state? And so on. I think it's not appropriate to have that column in that section. Furthermore there is already a map with the states adopting the Euro in the Economy section of this article, one could expand the currency details of each state there. -- Ritchie92 ( talk) 07:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
History of the European Union since 2004
There is no mention of Brexit or the migration crisis apart from a single link in that article, please can it be updated significantly to include all the major and minor events within the European Union during the 2010s. Also I would like to propose that the article is ended with Brexit and that a brand new article is started that shows major events from within the European Union from the year 2020 or 2021 onwards. ( MOTORAL1987 ( talk) 16:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC))
I assume we'll be changing the membership from 28 to 27, after January 31, 2020. GoodDay ( talk) 00:59, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Whilst the blue map has omitted The UK from its colour, the green map still has The UK coloured in as before January 31, 2020. Only when you click on the image does The UK appear grey.
The article United Kingdom invocation of Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union has been dormant for quite some time and has not been been updated to include the extension of article 50 in any detail to 31 January 2020. Please can the relevant updates be added to the article. ( 2A02:C7F:5622:2000:D0F1:23A4:8CAB:B928 ( talk) 15:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC))
The EU is de facto a Confederation I think we should add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
That doesn't look like as it's shown in the table. Why?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.2.87.212 ( talk) 21:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
As a remain voter in the Brexit referendum I have to say that the only thing I'm looking to about Brexit is that you stubborn editors will finally have to update the map after refusing to give the UK a lighter shade of green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 ( talk) 13:18, 29 March 2018
Please add Euro English as "De Facto" Language and connect it to the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello so today is brexit
please update info, I would do it but article is secured
have a nice day bye — Preceding
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Don't change anything before — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viktaur ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Is it just me who thinks there should be a criticism section in the article - for example the EU's anti-democraticness and federalism by the Von der Leyen Commission? ( Airline7375 ( talk) 21:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC))
Now that the UK has left, these statistics need to be recalculated and replaced in the article. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 23:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
In general, good work fellow editors. There was a bit of premature editing, but most, if not all, of it was done in good faith. The world is watching this page and from one editor to another, thank you for your commitment to accuracy and quality. Cheers! PubliusJ ( talk) 23:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Midnight, gentlemen. I trust all seasoned Wiki cartographers are poised to spring at 12:01am GMT. Hanoi Road ( talk) 09:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
The withdrawal agreement specifically states that extending the transition period is not permitted. So how can brexit take "up to two years"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.80.121 ( talk) 09:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Among other maps that need to be updated to show the UK's EU withdrawal, most of the maps at Future enlargement of the European Union, as well as File:Potential Superpowers.svg need to be updated. --14:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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On account of the fact that the EU is coloured blue and not green. 81.156.12.102 ( talk) 14:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
The green EU map still has The UK coloured in when it is displayed on the Wikipedia page instead of the blue EU map which doesn't. Go with blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.42.83 ( talk) 14:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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In the Lisbon Treaty (2007–present) section: change "increasing migration from the Middle East" to "increasing migration from Asia and Africa", because migrants also came from Africa and nations to the east of the Middle East. 92.40.177.182 ( talk) 11:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
One EU Member Cyprus, has two official languages Greek and Turkish. So why Turkish is not among the official languages of the EU? -- JeanisDL ( talk), 31 January 2020, 2:10 (UTC)
De facto English is the main language of the EU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.54.182.6 ( talk) 15:04, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Is English formally an offical language of the UE? Xpicto ( talk) 23:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Robincard: Do you have a source for English no longer being an official language? Previous sources have said that it would continue to be one after Brexit unless there is a unanimous vote by all member states to remove it, which I highly doubt has happened given the inconvenience that would cause. 0x9fff00 ( talk) 23:41, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
One particular criticism regarding the EU is the (now) undisclosed expense system, as documented here by a former MEP, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqdNbjhvlxA
Also, the cost associated with relocating the parliament. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.103.147 ( talk) 07:32, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Here: /info/en/?search=Brexit#/media/File:UK_location_in_the_EU_2016.svg
... the map displays the markers for each country that is a member of the EU.
Here, it does not: /info/en/?search=European_Union#/media/File:Global_European_Union.svg
As such, this implies that the EU is a single country, when of course it is not.
In terms of accuracy of represented visual information, this is the correct method of display: /info/en/?search=European_Union#/media/File:EC-EU-enlargement_animation.gif
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I have decided and I hope you will support me To cross out the United Kingdom like this in the ratification pages of the Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon treaties as we need to show although the UK signed and ratified the treaties they are no longer a member state and no longer bound by those treaties but still shows they were a part of the ratification process.(
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The last Polity Withdrawn essentially suggests that multiple countries have withdrawn from the EU - so far and presently only the UK as withdrawn from the EU.
This should be changed. Theprussian ( talk) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I think we should be careful not to overdo it with Brexit edits, and by that I mean let's be as judicious as possible with removing references to the UK. The UK has left the EU, but the UK's 47-year membership in the EU should not be understated in this article. It is okay to leave mentions of the UK that are in the context of historical data, e.g. economic and population statistics, and of course its role in the EU's political development and general history. Thoughts? PubliusJ ( talk) 01:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Previously the largest city has referred to the city proper. This means that Paris should be in the parameter. IWI ( chat) 00:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Jamesmstewart ( talk) 21:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Berlin is bigger than Paris within city limits. The population of Berlin is 3,748,148 the population of Paris is 2,140,526. Luis9595 ( talk) 15:08, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
The map is still showing the UK as a member state, anyone know how to fix this? JJARichardson ( talk) 18:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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Remove the United Kingdom from the map titled "Classification of regions from 2014 to 2020" Dkm49 ( talk) 14:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
We have a couple of new maps, one with borders and one without. The one with borders (that are for the most part unrelated to the EU) shows the wrong border for Western Sahara. This is not acceptable in an encyclopedia. M.Bitton ( talk) 23:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, adding the missing border and arguing to keep what's not supposed to be there on the ground that the work is based on an earlier version does not make the updated one any less wrong.
Please let me know what you want to do.
The wall (the berm) is not considered as a border by the the United Nations.
you had no problem with it last month when you uploaded...
Change the map without consensus and you will be reverted per Commons policy (COM:OVERWRITE). Upload a new map and you will need consensus to add it to this article.You changed the map. Did you seek consensus for it? M.Bitton ( talk) 00:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
You changed the map. Did you seek consensus for it?
this map is in respect of the EU, not the UNFor the EU (not that it matters in this case) the map of Western Sahara looks no different than that of the UN. See page 9 and 6 of these EU documents. [1] [2] The berm (which also runs inside the Moroccan territory) is usually only shown and described as such in articles that deal specifically with the conflict. M.Bitton ( talk) 01:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
the map of Western Sahara looks no different than that of the UN.
I say the UK is still part of the "political and economic" union, so this consists of 27 member states, and 1 non-member ttate, the latter of course being the UK. -- Tomb Blaster ( talk) 16:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
This article is about the EU. Not former members of the EU. Whilst Brexit deserves a prominent position in the body of the article, it does not warrant a mention in the lead. I didnt want to delete the paragraph without input from others, but it should be deleted/moved from the intro. At least, a vote should be held on that? 2.70.15.131 ( talk) 19:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Should the EU be a Confederal Republic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaiBrown1204 ( talk • contribs) 22:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Basically the title of this section. Akrotiri and Dhekelia should be removed from the map due to their status as UK Sovereign Base Areas and are no longer a part of the EU. Chess (talk) Ping when replying 20:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
This article is about the European Union, which was founded in 1993. In the history section, there's a very brief mention of empires that once covered most of Europe, and a link to the article Ideas of European unity before 1945. However, I don't see how that warrants having three maps of Europe more than 1,000 years ago in this small section. How are maps of Europe in the 1st century and 9th century AD relevant to an article about a union in the 21st century? It wrongly implies that the EU is somehow a descendant of the Roman and Frankish empires. Also, the map of Indo-European migrations from 4,000 BC is utterly unwarranted. ~ Asarlaí 22:23, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion at talk:Member state of the European Union#Splitting proposal on the case for a new article, Member states of the European Union [plural] to be created. Contributions welcome. -- Red King ( talk) 18:22, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
The "impact" section contains nothing but positive platitudes that could be integrated into the rest of the article, and clearly amounts to a "support section". I propose that it be removed or balanced out by criticism, of which plenty has been offered by reputable sources. Speed74 ( talk) 15:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Could or should it not be in another colour to contrast it against the current member states, with the colour (for the UK) coming under "former members"? -- Trans-Neptunian object ( talk) 20:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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Under Defense policy, the image with NATO members needs to be updated from 3 to 4 Candidate States in NATO I.E., Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Turkey 100.36.123.121 ( talk) 02:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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04:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)I don't see any link to the EU website's front page ( https://europa.eu/). Shouldn't that be in the information box at the top of the article, as it is for other international organizations (NATO, e.g.)? I'd add it there but don't know how to. 74.71.66.176 ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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I suggest changing the pie chart under the budget section to this cleaner and corrected one.
FROM THIS ONE: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EUMFF.png
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EU_Programme_funding.png
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People often call the European Union "Europe" as a short-form term, especially as the EU government begins to become more united and federal. I think that in the beginning section, it should say "The European Union, also referred to as Europe, . . .". -- RaiBrown1204 ( talk) 02:53, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
the European Union, also referred to as Europeunambiguously communicates that they are the same in which case we'd have to change Europe to a redirect page and merge all its content into this page. This seems like a common sense issue to me. — Tartan357 ( Talk) 04:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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