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Is that a joke?
166.216.128.75 ( talk) 10:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
"while smaller and more marginal parties (such as the Communist Party of Great Britain) remained correspondingly more dependent upon the patronage of Moscow"
What utter nonsense! The CPGB was firmly Eurocommunist in the 1970s, constantly distancing itself from the Soviet Union on a raft of issues -- such as the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the treatment of dissidents in the USSR.
You can make any change you want to the article. -- Juliet.p 08:14, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
for a long time i have been an avid student of politics. by chance, when reading the history of the indonesian communist party i came across a link to "eurocommunism".....
more references than this mandel person!
A statement like "It was those Communist parties most strongly entrenched in their respective societies — notably the Italian Communist Party and the French Communist Party — that adopted a Eurocommunist line" is clearly mistaken: the Russian and Chinese CPs also had mass roots. This entry fails to explain what Eurocommunism was in the words of its supporters. -- Duncan 13:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The relation of PCF with Eurocommunism is more complicated than both of these versions porttray. PCF vacilliated towards Eurocommunism, first welcoming it, then rejecting it and then again approaching it. -- Soman 11:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
There are several objections that I'd like to talk about. The reason I'm not editing right away is because I'm not very familiar with eurocommunism specifically and more with Warchau-pact history, so I could be mistaken. Anyway, I'll post the objections in the order the text appears in the article.
Buddelmeijer 10:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Claim "What was peculiar was that the Youth was nearly compltely Taistolaist" is totally unsubstiated and no scholar of the era would support this -- State of clarity ( talk) 22:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The template doesn't really make sense in that Eurocommunism is listed with Marxist-Leninist movements on the "same side", when in reality Eurocommunism is (like Hoxha said) anti-communism. The main historical role of Eurocommunism is to condemn the actions of socialist states and move the focus of Communist Parties away from proletarian class politics into bourgeois distractions such as ecology/feminism/homosexual "rights", etc... ie - the same policies as Anglo-American liberalism. Claíomh Solais ( talk) 23:14, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
why is that word, at the end of the first para after the lead, in quotation marks?
They make it look like the claim is made ironically, as a joke, or in bad faith.
I suggest removing them, or completing the statement with the full quote from the source.
T
88.89.217.49 (
talk) 21:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Why was that? That doesn't make any sense to me?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
The redirect
Neo-communism has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 1 § Neo-communism until a consensus is reached.
GnocchiFan (
talk) 16:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Essentially this entire article is written in a non-encyclopedic tone: instead of simply reporting already published facts, the wiki editors have very frequently included their own opinions. One method of inserting personal opinion is to use words that express surprise, encouragement, disappointment, and so on. These (and all other possible methods of commenting on the facts) need to be removed.
It is also still necessary to remove all statements that cannot be proved by showing the reliable published source that they come from. Personal knowledge (for example "I know this is true because I was actually there when it happened") must all be erased from the article. TooManyFingers ( talk) 21:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Is that a joke?
166.216.128.75 ( talk) 10:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
"while smaller and more marginal parties (such as the Communist Party of Great Britain) remained correspondingly more dependent upon the patronage of Moscow"
What utter nonsense! The CPGB was firmly Eurocommunist in the 1970s, constantly distancing itself from the Soviet Union on a raft of issues -- such as the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the treatment of dissidents in the USSR.
You can make any change you want to the article. -- Juliet.p 08:14, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
for a long time i have been an avid student of politics. by chance, when reading the history of the indonesian communist party i came across a link to "eurocommunism".....
more references than this mandel person!
A statement like "It was those Communist parties most strongly entrenched in their respective societies — notably the Italian Communist Party and the French Communist Party — that adopted a Eurocommunist line" is clearly mistaken: the Russian and Chinese CPs also had mass roots. This entry fails to explain what Eurocommunism was in the words of its supporters. -- Duncan 13:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The relation of PCF with Eurocommunism is more complicated than both of these versions porttray. PCF vacilliated towards Eurocommunism, first welcoming it, then rejecting it and then again approaching it. -- Soman 11:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
There are several objections that I'd like to talk about. The reason I'm not editing right away is because I'm not very familiar with eurocommunism specifically and more with Warchau-pact history, so I could be mistaken. Anyway, I'll post the objections in the order the text appears in the article.
Buddelmeijer 10:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Claim "What was peculiar was that the Youth was nearly compltely Taistolaist" is totally unsubstiated and no scholar of the era would support this -- State of clarity ( talk) 22:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The template doesn't really make sense in that Eurocommunism is listed with Marxist-Leninist movements on the "same side", when in reality Eurocommunism is (like Hoxha said) anti-communism. The main historical role of Eurocommunism is to condemn the actions of socialist states and move the focus of Communist Parties away from proletarian class politics into bourgeois distractions such as ecology/feminism/homosexual "rights", etc... ie - the same policies as Anglo-American liberalism. Claíomh Solais ( talk) 23:14, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
why is that word, at the end of the first para after the lead, in quotation marks?
They make it look like the claim is made ironically, as a joke, or in bad faith.
I suggest removing them, or completing the statement with the full quote from the source.
T
88.89.217.49 (
talk) 21:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Why was that? That doesn't make any sense to me?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
The redirect
Neo-communism has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 1 § Neo-communism until a consensus is reached.
GnocchiFan (
talk) 16:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Essentially this entire article is written in a non-encyclopedic tone: instead of simply reporting already published facts, the wiki editors have very frequently included their own opinions. One method of inserting personal opinion is to use words that express surprise, encouragement, disappointment, and so on. These (and all other possible methods of commenting on the facts) need to be removed.
It is also still necessary to remove all statements that cannot be proved by showing the reliable published source that they come from. Personal knowledge (for example "I know this is true because I was actually there when it happened") must all be erased from the article. TooManyFingers ( talk) 21:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)