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Information on size and lifespan etc should be added to the page
Under conservation there should be some mention of the role of pollutants especially PCB's in the decline of European otter populations 1950s-80's and the partial recovery following bans on PCB's in European countries. See 'Decline and Recovery in otter Lutra lutra populations in Italy, Claudi Prigioni, Alssandro Balestrieri and Luigi Remonti, 2007 Mammal Review 37 (1) pp71-79' and the references from that paper.
I have added some better info on conservation and more references, mainly UK centric I'm afraid but an improvement on the previous version.
Why are they not shown on the range map?
Is there a source for using "European" otter as the name for this species in English? It may be the only otter in Europe, but it's an odd name for a species also occurring in North Africa and all the way to Japan... It is in widespread use, but is by no means the only name by which the animal is known.
The alternative names given in the article are Eurasian River Otter, Common Otter, and Old World Otter (in practice in the British Isles it's most commonly just called "otter"). All of these also seem unsatisfactory – it's not just found in rivers, it's not always common, and there are many other otters in the Old World.
"Eurasian otter" seems to be a very widely used name, which avoids most (all?) of these problems.
If the use of "European otter" has not been assigned formally (which I don't think it has), I suggest that the name of this article is changed to "Eurasian otter" – unless someone can come up with something better?-- Richard New Forest 22:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
For standardization, I have been moving WP mammal articles to correspond with the the common name used by MSW3 ( Lutra lutra), which is the most used source used by Wikipedia: WikiProject Mammals. Another source extensively used throughout WP is IUCN ( Lutra lutra). For this species, MSW3 list no alternate name for Lutra lutra, only "European Otter". However, IUCN lists BOTH "European Otter" and "Eurasian Otter" as the common name. For standardization, I am proposing using the MSW3 common name of "European Otter", although I have no qualms about abandoning that preference if either MSW3 is incorrect or if common usage has changed since the last edition of MSW. As per an above post, another editor has expressed disagreement with this, so I have opened an RfC. -- Tombstone ( talk) 07:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Are we anywhere near a consensus on this? To summarise the above:
To me, there seems to be a strong argument for "Eurasian" and only weak ones for "European". Can anyone come up with a stronger argument for "European"? If not, I suggest we go for "Eurasian". Richard New Forest ( talk) 15:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Typical size and weight are missing. David.Monniaux ( talk) 22:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Auto writes. One suggested (possible, no more) explanation of the 1930s sightings of the Loch Ness Monster is an anomalously big otter [UK]. This may be a creature that approached - or, possibly, exceeded - the quoted 24 Kg. maximum. Maybe. Auto wrote - 86.176.213.205 ( talk) 21:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC) 2115Z 12 November 2017.
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The result of the move request was: Moved as unopposed, and per the thorough nom. Seeing that the same proposal has been discussed for years, virtually without counter-arguments, I think it's about time to do it, and I don't see a point in relisting. No such user ( talk) 14:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
European otter →
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Eurasian otter#Distribution and habitat says "in the western regions of Spain and Portugal", but the cited source does not seem to confirm. -- NGC 54 ( talk| contribs) 01:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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Information on size and lifespan etc should be added to the page
Under conservation there should be some mention of the role of pollutants especially PCB's in the decline of European otter populations 1950s-80's and the partial recovery following bans on PCB's in European countries. See 'Decline and Recovery in otter Lutra lutra populations in Italy, Claudi Prigioni, Alssandro Balestrieri and Luigi Remonti, 2007 Mammal Review 37 (1) pp71-79' and the references from that paper.
I have added some better info on conservation and more references, mainly UK centric I'm afraid but an improvement on the previous version.
Why are they not shown on the range map?
Is there a source for using "European" otter as the name for this species in English? It may be the only otter in Europe, but it's an odd name for a species also occurring in North Africa and all the way to Japan... It is in widespread use, but is by no means the only name by which the animal is known.
The alternative names given in the article are Eurasian River Otter, Common Otter, and Old World Otter (in practice in the British Isles it's most commonly just called "otter"). All of these also seem unsatisfactory – it's not just found in rivers, it's not always common, and there are many other otters in the Old World.
"Eurasian otter" seems to be a very widely used name, which avoids most (all?) of these problems.
If the use of "European otter" has not been assigned formally (which I don't think it has), I suggest that the name of this article is changed to "Eurasian otter" – unless someone can come up with something better?-- Richard New Forest 22:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
For standardization, I have been moving WP mammal articles to correspond with the the common name used by MSW3 ( Lutra lutra), which is the most used source used by Wikipedia: WikiProject Mammals. Another source extensively used throughout WP is IUCN ( Lutra lutra). For this species, MSW3 list no alternate name for Lutra lutra, only "European Otter". However, IUCN lists BOTH "European Otter" and "Eurasian Otter" as the common name. For standardization, I am proposing using the MSW3 common name of "European Otter", although I have no qualms about abandoning that preference if either MSW3 is incorrect or if common usage has changed since the last edition of MSW. As per an above post, another editor has expressed disagreement with this, so I have opened an RfC. -- Tombstone ( talk) 07:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Are we anywhere near a consensus on this? To summarise the above:
To me, there seems to be a strong argument for "Eurasian" and only weak ones for "European". Can anyone come up with a stronger argument for "European"? If not, I suggest we go for "Eurasian". Richard New Forest ( talk) 15:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Typical size and weight are missing. David.Monniaux ( talk) 22:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Auto writes. One suggested (possible, no more) explanation of the 1930s sightings of the Loch Ness Monster is an anomalously big otter [UK]. This may be a creature that approached - or, possibly, exceeded - the quoted 24 Kg. maximum. Maybe. Auto wrote - 86.176.213.205 ( talk) 21:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC) 2115Z 12 November 2017.
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The result of the move request was: Moved as unopposed, and per the thorough nom. Seeing that the same proposal has been discussed for years, virtually without counter-arguments, I think it's about time to do it, and I don't see a point in relisting. No such user ( talk) 14:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
European otter →
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Eurasian otter#Distribution and habitat says "in the western regions of Spain and Portugal", but the cited source does not seem to confirm. -- NGC 54 ( talk| contribs) 01:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)