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1. What do you call significant population? I'd say 5,000 is not significant enough. 2. Why do you delete my edits since the whole world says that there were great repressions during these censuses. 3. Why do you put this map since there are at least ten other scientific maps from the period that show the thing that you don't like seeing. These are only my first few questions.-- Laveol T 10:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
At present, this article is a POV fork of the treatment we currently have at Blagoevgrad Province#Pirin Macedonia and irredentist allegations. The one treatment is as badly pro-Macedonian POV as the other is pro-Bulgarian POV. I don't strongly care whether in the end we will have a separate article linked summary-style into the other, or just a section, or perhaps something within the structure of a new main article Minorities in Bulgaria (we should have that, perhaps). But in any case, these two texts need to be condensed into one, shorter, neutral version. Have fun, guys. Whoever manages synthesizing these two POV screeds together without getting himself banned for edit-warring will get a barnstar from me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
RE: user:laveol - the same article the same POV
Is this title (macedonians in bulgaria, as opposed to pirin macedonians) more acceptable to you? Please inform me why the page is a point of veiw push?
PMK1 (
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The majority of the population from Blagoevgrad province was listed as ethnic Macedonians mostly against their will.[4][5]
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well, this statement is really something. were these alleged "macedonians" really macedonian??? it is really a huge POV to have this information about the group. would laveol please like to clarify?? btw there is just as many sources saying that the population WERE not forced to declare themselves as macedonians, rather chosing to. PMK1 ( talk) 07:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I've merged the edit history of the older version at Pirin Macedonians into this page (currently Macedonians in Bulgaria), since it is essentially the same article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
RE:The Bulgarian Communist party was compelled by Stalin to accept the formation of Macedonian, Thracian and Dobrujan nations in order to include those new separate states in a Balkan communist federation.[4][5][6]
RE:The same process started regarding the populations in Dobrudja and Thrace.[4][5]
RE:decision was made that the Macedonian, Dobrujan and Thracian nations did not exist and neither did their respective languages.[9][10][4][5]
just for clarification.
i have searched tirelessly for these dobrujan an thracian nations and languages which are mentioned in the source.???? i have never heard of any thracian language but the one spoken in ancient times. and as for the Dobrujan one? it is nonexistent!
as for the this "SUPER merger" of the balkan states it is a bit unrealisitc. The bulgarian government officially stopped recognising the macedonians in 1958. 5 years after stalin died. 9 years after the greek civil war ended (thus ending any dreams of a great communist state), 11 years after the Bled Agreement (which recognised the rights of the Macedonian minority), by the way the idea of this Balkan Communist federation was quickly forgotten as the Yugoslav and Turkish communists were not for it.
this a serious POV and threaten the neutrality of the article. user:laveol needs to make the article more realistic as he has taken it upon himself to oversee the article. PMK1 ( talk) 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd ask you to start login in as well. I kind of get the impression you don't want to edit with your main account. As for the Dobrujans and Thracians - this is what the refs say. -- Laveol T 01:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I will be able to find just as many sources as you have and adding them just to prove a point is ridiculous! (it is not wat wikipedia is about) therefore i believe that the disputed information you have put up should be removed. thanx PMK1 ( talk) 21:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
just a question why is this source -- Rothschild, Joseph. The Communist Party of Bulgaria; Origins and Development, 1883-1936. Columbia University Press, p. 126. --- used 5 times in the article when the article is focused after the end date? what would reforms in the 1950's have to do with 19 century communism? is this really bieng used as a source???? P m kocovski ( talk) 08:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This is highly innacurate. What kind of a statement is this? What oppresions? The oppressions began in 1958! Therefore it should be as i stated "At the 1958 plenum ....." there is no need for this lie!. and laveol how NPOV are your sources really?? you have basically just sourced 2 books 5 times each, all of the time saying how the Macedonians do not really exist! im sensing serious bias here! PMK1 ( talk) 05:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, the intro sucks. Most of that paragraph should go somewhere lower in the article. The intro should pretty much just focus on the current situation: official number, official status etc. Balkan Fever 06:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
what is the point of having these 2 images on the page? are you trying to prove a point. By having these 2 maps there is no encyclopedic benefit to the article nor to the reader. they should be remover ASAP, this is spamming the article laveol PMK1 ( talk) 12:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
statement 1- "Македонският език или Македонска езикова норма е южнославянски език или една от книжовните норми на българския език. "
this page - here
statement - българи - 20 993 (1,04%) Около 20 000 от македонците имат българско национално съзнание, тъй като са получили българско гражданство на базата на български етнически произход и са се декларирали за българи, както например бившият премиер на републиката Любчо Георгиевскии бившия вътрешен министър Доста Димовска.[3] Много други граждани на Република Македония, и без да притежават двойно гражданство, открито афишират българския си произход, като например писателите Младен Сърбиновски и Миле is this really neutral stufff???? and just a question do you agree with statement one? PMK1 ( talk) 23:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is the only the map showing the "Macedonian Slavs" shown and none of the other (more numerous) maps which don't show them not shown? Quite clearly there was a dispute going on among mapmakers at that time regarding the existence of "Macedonians"/"Macedonian Slavs"; It is unfair and biased to present only one side of the story.-- Dexippus ( talk) 01:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected some spelling mistakes in the portion "Macedonians after 1958" Maktruth ( talk) 03:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
i was trawling through the internet and i found this page - http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianMinorities/recognition.html i wondered whether it was worth mentioning??? P m kocovski ( talk) 06:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/pdf/cedime-se-bulgaria-macedonians.PDF This is an excellent source, please read and add to the article accordingly. Mactruth ( talk) 23:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
If the sources are from sources like these they should be used but stated in a neutral manner Mactruth ( talk) 01:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Does any one object if i move the page to Ethnic Macedonians of Bulgaria? PMK1 ( talk) 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
the Bulgarian standard language. So i think it would be more appropriate for both languages ot be listed. PMK1 ( talk) 22:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Re. latest additions by Jingiby: [2]: (Although in tune with the inter-war Soviet dogma which Dimitrov himself advocated throughout his career, this attitude had become an obstacle in the way of Stalin's wish for total control over the new Eastern Bloc.): Jingiby, don't tell me you wrote this sentence yourself. It sounds plagiarised. You copied that from somewhere. But the main problem is: what does it refer to? What is "this attitude"? And what time relation is described by the pluperfect in "had become"? i.e. when was "this attitude" prevalent, and by what time had it become "an obstacle"? This is the danger of just ripping out sentences from some source and copying them. The meaning gets distorted. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Yow are wright. I am going to remove it. Jingby ( talk) 15:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear Jingby, Preslav. You probably very well know that there are earlier signs of Macedonian national identity, separate from Serbs and Bulgarians, so that POV-information "had Bulgarian identity" cannot stay here. It is not that simple as you would like it. Regards. 93.219.219.234 ( talk) 18:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Dear annonimous, please do not remove referenced information! If you wont to discuss about Macedonian identity, please write on the articles Macedonian nationalism and Macedonian Question, but first read them! There are hunderts of references about it. Jingby ( talk) 18:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I see in Ethnologue the figure of Macedonian language speakers in Bulgaria to be 150,000, included the estimate in the article. http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=mkd Hittit ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
This number is of the Slavic speakers in Bulgaria, which dialect is viewed as Macedonian by Ethnologue. This number is included in the article Macedonian language. Here we don't look for the number of Dialect speakers, but of people with ethnic and linguistic Macedonian self-identification, what is different. Jingiby ( talk) 15:32, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I disagree with such a methodology and if you are going to revise this number I shell support you. Jingiby ( talk) 15:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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The Institute for Middle East and Balkan Studies came up with an assessment that ethnic Macedonians are 10% of the population. We need to include this since it is the only independent assessment [1] GStojanov ( talk) 16:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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The reliability of that institute is highly questionable. Per the Digital Forensic Center of the Atlantic Council of Montenegro which main goals are of countering the problem of disinformation and fake news as well as reducing problem of digital/media illiteracy did a detailed analysis of the pieces of research of the International Institute for Middle-East and Balkan studies (IFIMES), due to discovered inconsistencies in claims, biased coverage of specific topics and changing attitude towards the events and players in a short period. The DFM put under question the objectives of the IFIMES’ analyses. [1] Jingiby ( talk) 16:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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I notice that the list of ethnic Macedonians in Bulgaria includes people who defined themselves primarily as Bulgarians or those by whom the sense of Macedonian identity was expressed episodically or was vague in contrast to Bulgarian one. I suggest that they be removed or if they remain, there should be a note that they felt themselves Bulgarian too. Jingiby ( talk) 08:30, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
In my opinion, it is quite clear that people imprisoned in a labor camp are forced to work. This does not need to be mentioned in this article. It is in the article on the Belene camp, as well as in the main article on the labor camps, i.e. this is WP:COATRACKING. Jingiby ( talk) 19:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
VMORO, I have decided to open this discussion here as it is the most suitable place for your concerns voiced here. I hope that I have addressed everything with my edit here. If you (or anyone else) have any concerns regarding that section of the article, freely state them here. Best regards. Kluche ( talk) 10:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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1. What do you call significant population? I'd say 5,000 is not significant enough. 2. Why do you delete my edits since the whole world says that there were great repressions during these censuses. 3. Why do you put this map since there are at least ten other scientific maps from the period that show the thing that you don't like seeing. These are only my first few questions.-- Laveol T 10:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
At present, this article is a POV fork of the treatment we currently have at Blagoevgrad Province#Pirin Macedonia and irredentist allegations. The one treatment is as badly pro-Macedonian POV as the other is pro-Bulgarian POV. I don't strongly care whether in the end we will have a separate article linked summary-style into the other, or just a section, or perhaps something within the structure of a new main article Minorities in Bulgaria (we should have that, perhaps). But in any case, these two texts need to be condensed into one, shorter, neutral version. Have fun, guys. Whoever manages synthesizing these two POV screeds together without getting himself banned for edit-warring will get a barnstar from me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
RE: user:laveol - the same article the same POV
Is this title (macedonians in bulgaria, as opposed to pirin macedonians) more acceptable to you? Please inform me why the page is a point of veiw push?
PMK1 (
talk) 10:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The majority of the population from Blagoevgrad province was listed as ethnic Macedonians mostly against their will.[4][5]
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well, this statement is really something. were these alleged "macedonians" really macedonian??? it is really a huge POV to have this information about the group. would laveol please like to clarify?? btw there is just as many sources saying that the population WERE not forced to declare themselves as macedonians, rather chosing to. PMK1 ( talk) 07:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I've merged the edit history of the older version at Pirin Macedonians into this page (currently Macedonians in Bulgaria), since it is essentially the same article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
RE:The Bulgarian Communist party was compelled by Stalin to accept the formation of Macedonian, Thracian and Dobrujan nations in order to include those new separate states in a Balkan communist federation.[4][5][6]
RE:The same process started regarding the populations in Dobrudja and Thrace.[4][5]
RE:decision was made that the Macedonian, Dobrujan and Thracian nations did not exist and neither did their respective languages.[9][10][4][5]
just for clarification.
i have searched tirelessly for these dobrujan an thracian nations and languages which are mentioned in the source.???? i have never heard of any thracian language but the one spoken in ancient times. and as for the Dobrujan one? it is nonexistent!
as for the this "SUPER merger" of the balkan states it is a bit unrealisitc. The bulgarian government officially stopped recognising the macedonians in 1958. 5 years after stalin died. 9 years after the greek civil war ended (thus ending any dreams of a great communist state), 11 years after the Bled Agreement (which recognised the rights of the Macedonian minority), by the way the idea of this Balkan Communist federation was quickly forgotten as the Yugoslav and Turkish communists were not for it.
this a serious POV and threaten the neutrality of the article. user:laveol needs to make the article more realistic as he has taken it upon himself to oversee the article. PMK1 ( talk) 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd ask you to start login in as well. I kind of get the impression you don't want to edit with your main account. As for the Dobrujans and Thracians - this is what the refs say. -- Laveol T 01:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I will be able to find just as many sources as you have and adding them just to prove a point is ridiculous! (it is not wat wikipedia is about) therefore i believe that the disputed information you have put up should be removed. thanx PMK1 ( talk) 21:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
just a question why is this source -- Rothschild, Joseph. The Communist Party of Bulgaria; Origins and Development, 1883-1936. Columbia University Press, p. 126. --- used 5 times in the article when the article is focused after the end date? what would reforms in the 1950's have to do with 19 century communism? is this really bieng used as a source???? P m kocovski ( talk) 08:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This is highly innacurate. What kind of a statement is this? What oppresions? The oppressions began in 1958! Therefore it should be as i stated "At the 1958 plenum ....." there is no need for this lie!. and laveol how NPOV are your sources really?? you have basically just sourced 2 books 5 times each, all of the time saying how the Macedonians do not really exist! im sensing serious bias here! PMK1 ( talk) 05:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, the intro sucks. Most of that paragraph should go somewhere lower in the article. The intro should pretty much just focus on the current situation: official number, official status etc. Balkan Fever 06:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
what is the point of having these 2 images on the page? are you trying to prove a point. By having these 2 maps there is no encyclopedic benefit to the article nor to the reader. they should be remover ASAP, this is spamming the article laveol PMK1 ( talk) 12:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
statement 1- "Македонският език или Македонска езикова норма е южнославянски език или една от книжовните норми на българския език. "
this page - here
statement - българи - 20 993 (1,04%) Около 20 000 от македонците имат българско национално съзнание, тъй като са получили българско гражданство на базата на български етнически произход и са се декларирали за българи, както например бившият премиер на републиката Любчо Георгиевскии бившия вътрешен министър Доста Димовска.[3] Много други граждани на Република Македония, и без да притежават двойно гражданство, открито афишират българския си произход, като например писателите Младен Сърбиновски и Миле is this really neutral stufff???? and just a question do you agree with statement one? PMK1 ( talk) 23:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is the only the map showing the "Macedonian Slavs" shown and none of the other (more numerous) maps which don't show them not shown? Quite clearly there was a dispute going on among mapmakers at that time regarding the existence of "Macedonians"/"Macedonian Slavs"; It is unfair and biased to present only one side of the story.-- Dexippus ( talk) 01:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected some spelling mistakes in the portion "Macedonians after 1958" Maktruth ( talk) 03:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
i was trawling through the internet and i found this page - http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianMinorities/recognition.html i wondered whether it was worth mentioning??? P m kocovski ( talk) 06:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/pdf/cedime-se-bulgaria-macedonians.PDF This is an excellent source, please read and add to the article accordingly. Mactruth ( talk) 23:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
If the sources are from sources like these they should be used but stated in a neutral manner Mactruth ( talk) 01:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Does any one object if i move the page to Ethnic Macedonians of Bulgaria? PMK1 ( talk) 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
the Bulgarian standard language. So i think it would be more appropriate for both languages ot be listed. PMK1 ( talk) 22:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Re. latest additions by Jingiby: [2]: (Although in tune with the inter-war Soviet dogma which Dimitrov himself advocated throughout his career, this attitude had become an obstacle in the way of Stalin's wish for total control over the new Eastern Bloc.): Jingiby, don't tell me you wrote this sentence yourself. It sounds plagiarised. You copied that from somewhere. But the main problem is: what does it refer to? What is "this attitude"? And what time relation is described by the pluperfect in "had become"? i.e. when was "this attitude" prevalent, and by what time had it become "an obstacle"? This is the danger of just ripping out sentences from some source and copying them. The meaning gets distorted. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Yow are wright. I am going to remove it. Jingby ( talk) 15:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear Jingby, Preslav. You probably very well know that there are earlier signs of Macedonian national identity, separate from Serbs and Bulgarians, so that POV-information "had Bulgarian identity" cannot stay here. It is not that simple as you would like it. Regards. 93.219.219.234 ( talk) 18:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Dear annonimous, please do not remove referenced information! If you wont to discuss about Macedonian identity, please write on the articles Macedonian nationalism and Macedonian Question, but first read them! There are hunderts of references about it. Jingby ( talk) 18:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I see in Ethnologue the figure of Macedonian language speakers in Bulgaria to be 150,000, included the estimate in the article. http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=mkd Hittit ( talk) 15:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
This number is of the Slavic speakers in Bulgaria, which dialect is viewed as Macedonian by Ethnologue. This number is included in the article Macedonian language. Here we don't look for the number of Dialect speakers, but of people with ethnic and linguistic Macedonian self-identification, what is different. Jingiby ( talk) 15:32, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I disagree with such a methodology and if you are going to revise this number I shell support you. Jingiby ( talk) 15:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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The Institute for Middle East and Balkan Studies came up with an assessment that ethnic Macedonians are 10% of the population. We need to include this since it is the only independent assessment [1] GStojanov ( talk) 16:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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The reliability of that institute is highly questionable. Per the Digital Forensic Center of the Atlantic Council of Montenegro which main goals are of countering the problem of disinformation and fake news as well as reducing problem of digital/media illiteracy did a detailed analysis of the pieces of research of the International Institute for Middle-East and Balkan studies (IFIMES), due to discovered inconsistencies in claims, biased coverage of specific topics and changing attitude towards the events and players in a short period. The DFM put under question the objectives of the IFIMES’ analyses. [1] Jingiby ( talk) 16:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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I notice that the list of ethnic Macedonians in Bulgaria includes people who defined themselves primarily as Bulgarians or those by whom the sense of Macedonian identity was expressed episodically or was vague in contrast to Bulgarian one. I suggest that they be removed or if they remain, there should be a note that they felt themselves Bulgarian too. Jingiby ( talk) 08:30, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
In my opinion, it is quite clear that people imprisoned in a labor camp are forced to work. This does not need to be mentioned in this article. It is in the article on the Belene camp, as well as in the main article on the labor camps, i.e. this is WP:COATRACKING. Jingiby ( talk) 19:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
VMORO, I have decided to open this discussion here as it is the most suitable place for your concerns voiced here. I hope that I have addressed everything with my edit here. If you (or anyone else) have any concerns regarding that section of the article, freely state them here. Best regards. Kluche ( talk) 10:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)