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This is false, the "eternal president of the republic" is simply a line in the preamble of the DPRK constitution, it has no governmental status, it is not designated as a head of state, it is simply in a preamble which is as you know, non-functional text. NoJoyInMudville 15:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It has status! I myslef worked with diplomatic notes which were addressed to the President Kim Il Sung even in 2000! 83.167.112.237 ( talk) 19:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe one should add the expression "Eternal President of the Republic" in Korean ... would be nice! 80.109.117.16 12:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I marked this page as {{update}} because Pak Pong-ju seems to have been released from office (Premier) on April 11, 2007.
Surely 'eternal' is an adjective, and the office is 'President of the Republic'. 218.14.51.238 ( talk) 08:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I propose that Eternal President of the Republic will be merged with President of North Korea. RicJac ( talk) 15:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
North Korea does not have a state religion, as far as i know they're officially atheist even... Thus it doesn't meet any definitions of a real Theocracy. Not even slightly. (Political religion doesn't count imho, because then the soviet union and in addition any other authoritarian state would have to be called theocratic aswell.)
I suggest removing or updating that reference for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.254.42.34 ( talk) 22:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
The page should be updated. The preamble has been changed and now there's the new title of "Eternal leader" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.117.200.160 ( talk) 12:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
@ TaerkastUA: I tried to find it, but I don't find anything. Only for Kim Jong-il, called the "영원한 수령" in North Korea's websites. For this, see the Constitution of North Korea (2016). Thanks. -- Garam ( talk) 14:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@ TaerkastUA, Garam, and Obonggi: I think we need consensus here. If it boils down to two vs. two, I think we'll have to revert to the original wording, which is the last stable version, WP:TITLECHANGES. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Kim_Il-sung#How_to_handle_presidency_status.
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07:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
== Split "President of North Korea" from this page I believe that President of North Korea should be a separate article from Eternal leaders of North Korea. There is a lot that could be written under that article such as the history of the office and the powers that office had under the 1972 and 1992 North Korean constitutions.-- Migs005 ( talk) 10:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
According to WP:N, an article needs:
Sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.
The sources for this article are another Wiki, which is WP:NOTSOURCE, and a book with a very trivial mention of "eternal leaders". If this doesn't have secondary sources (which it doesn't), than it should be removed. Stix1776 ( talk) 12:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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This is false, the "eternal president of the republic" is simply a line in the preamble of the DPRK constitution, it has no governmental status, it is not designated as a head of state, it is simply in a preamble which is as you know, non-functional text. NoJoyInMudville 15:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It has status! I myslef worked with diplomatic notes which were addressed to the President Kim Il Sung even in 2000! 83.167.112.237 ( talk) 19:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe one should add the expression "Eternal President of the Republic" in Korean ... would be nice! 80.109.117.16 12:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I marked this page as {{update}} because Pak Pong-ju seems to have been released from office (Premier) on April 11, 2007.
Surely 'eternal' is an adjective, and the office is 'President of the Republic'. 218.14.51.238 ( talk) 08:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I propose that Eternal President of the Republic will be merged with President of North Korea. RicJac ( talk) 15:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
North Korea does not have a state religion, as far as i know they're officially atheist even... Thus it doesn't meet any definitions of a real Theocracy. Not even slightly. (Political religion doesn't count imho, because then the soviet union and in addition any other authoritarian state would have to be called theocratic aswell.)
I suggest removing or updating that reference for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.254.42.34 ( talk) 22:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
The page should be updated. The preamble has been changed and now there's the new title of "Eternal leader" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.117.200.160 ( talk) 12:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
@ TaerkastUA: I tried to find it, but I don't find anything. Only for Kim Jong-il, called the "영원한 수령" in North Korea's websites. For this, see the Constitution of North Korea (2016). Thanks. -- Garam ( talk) 14:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@ TaerkastUA, Garam, and Obonggi: I think we need consensus here. If it boils down to two vs. two, I think we'll have to revert to the original wording, which is the last stable version, WP:TITLECHANGES. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Kim_Il-sung#How_to_handle_presidency_status.
Sdkb (
talk)
07:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
== Split "President of North Korea" from this page I believe that President of North Korea should be a separate article from Eternal leaders of North Korea. There is a lot that could be written under that article such as the history of the office and the powers that office had under the 1972 and 1992 North Korean constitutions.-- Migs005 ( talk) 10:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
According to WP:N, an article needs:
Sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.
The sources for this article are another Wiki, which is WP:NOTSOURCE, and a book with a very trivial mention of "eternal leaders". If this doesn't have secondary sources (which it doesn't), than it should be removed. Stix1776 ( talk) 12:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)