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Reverted back to original draft due to its informative nature. Other revisions were a bit bloated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.179.226 ( talk) 20:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Can't help noticing that none of the German star footballers are mentioned here. I mean they may have been the bad guys, but players like Franz Beckenbaur (most likely i spelt this wrong) are also legends.-- ZincBelief ( talk) 13:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
did Beckenbauer feature in the movie ? PalX 13:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the below about Beckenbauer, there's so many references to ipswich town (must have been written by a fan) and so few to the great players... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.55.10 ( talk) 19:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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there shouls be seperate Saltire's and st george crosses beside the footballers not union flags because Scotland and England compete seperately at football —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.130.14 ( talk) 22:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Which nationality was Carlos Rey (Osvaldo Ardiles) supposed to be? Argentina were neutral throughout the War. 188.221.129.72 ( talk) 12:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
It is claimed he was either Mexican or Costa Rican. Statto74 ( talk) 06:43, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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this is better poster for change https://www.ebay.ie/itm/668-VICTORY-red-style-intl-1sh-81-John-Huston-Stallone-Caine-Pele-Escape-/252724360064 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:55B ( talk) 23:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC) Title change ?!? to Victory ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:155B ( talk) 22:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Escape to Victory is title for UK not for USA Victory is more official title for film in USA is American film — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:155B ( talk) 07:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
This movie is quite similar in plot to The Longest Yard: Abused prisoners rally to defeat the "goons." 71.220.132.188 ( talk) 02:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus there is support to move to the US title, but opposition arguments invoking WP:COMMONNAME.( non-admin closure) Polyamorph ( talk) 13:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Escape to Victory → Victory (1981 film) – The article has 7 external links to major film databases, and every single one of them refers to the film as Victory. Chubbles ( talk) 05:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Just a side-point here, WP:COMMONNAME is very hard to determine for this article using the typical search tools as the title "Victory" is entirely contained within the name "Escape to Victory", so searches for "Victory" will also catch references to "Escape to Victory", and as "Victory" is a very common word used in many different contexts. Using the databases cited in the article to determine the common name is misguided as these often just reproduce information from a register/directory and the name they use is not governed by it being a common name. On the other side of the equation we have the fact that "Escape to Victory" is how the film is named in Michael Cain's autobiography, Pele's, Bobby Moore's biography, Ellegra Huston's (daughter of the director), Terry Butcher's Biography etc. - it appears that the people who worked on the film mostly referred to it as "Escape to Victory" when it was in production and continued to call it that even after its American premiere. FOARP ( talk) 15:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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On 8 March 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Escape to Victory to Victory. The result of the discussion was No consensus. |
Reverted back to original draft due to its informative nature. Other revisions were a bit bloated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.179.226 ( talk) 20:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Can't help noticing that none of the German star footballers are mentioned here. I mean they may have been the bad guys, but players like Franz Beckenbaur (most likely i spelt this wrong) are also legends.-- ZincBelief ( talk) 13:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
did Beckenbauer feature in the movie ? PalX 13:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the below about Beckenbauer, there's so many references to ipswich town (must have been written by a fan) and so few to the great players... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.55.10 ( talk) 19:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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there shouls be seperate Saltire's and st george crosses beside the footballers not union flags because Scotland and England compete seperately at football —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.130.14 ( talk) 22:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Which nationality was Carlos Rey (Osvaldo Ardiles) supposed to be? Argentina were neutral throughout the War. 188.221.129.72 ( talk) 12:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
It is claimed he was either Mexican or Costa Rican. Statto74 ( talk) 06:43, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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this is better poster for change https://www.ebay.ie/itm/668-VICTORY-red-style-intl-1sh-81-John-Huston-Stallone-Caine-Pele-Escape-/252724360064 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:55B ( talk) 23:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC) Title change ?!? to Victory ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:155B ( talk) 22:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Escape to Victory is title for UK not for USA Victory is more official title for film in USA is American film — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:4802:2800:0:0:0:0:155B ( talk) 07:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
This movie is quite similar in plot to The Longest Yard: Abused prisoners rally to defeat the "goons." 71.220.132.188 ( talk) 02:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus there is support to move to the US title, but opposition arguments invoking WP:COMMONNAME.( non-admin closure) Polyamorph ( talk) 13:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Escape to Victory → Victory (1981 film) – The article has 7 external links to major film databases, and every single one of them refers to the film as Victory. Chubbles ( talk) 05:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Just a side-point here, WP:COMMONNAME is very hard to determine for this article using the typical search tools as the title "Victory" is entirely contained within the name "Escape to Victory", so searches for "Victory" will also catch references to "Escape to Victory", and as "Victory" is a very common word used in many different contexts. Using the databases cited in the article to determine the common name is misguided as these often just reproduce information from a register/directory and the name they use is not governed by it being a common name. On the other side of the equation we have the fact that "Escape to Victory" is how the film is named in Michael Cain's autobiography, Pele's, Bobby Moore's biography, Ellegra Huston's (daughter of the director), Terry Butcher's Biography etc. - it appears that the people who worked on the film mostly referred to it as "Escape to Victory" when it was in production and continued to call it that even after its American premiere. FOARP ( talk) 15:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)