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some of the refs here might be use-able to generate encyclopedic content. Otherwise this is just promotional trash
Braverman has been a radio personality since 1986 and currently hosts Total Health on WABC-770 Sundays at noon, and has also made guest appearances on other radio shows. In the past, he hosted a weekly show on WOR 710 Radio, until his contract was canceled in June 1996 following board action in the state of NJ and PA. [1] [2] [3] He has appeared on television networks and primetime shows including NBC Nightly News, Larry King Live, The Today Show, The Tyra Banks Show, MSNBC, Benny Hinn's This Is Your Day and The O’Reilly Factor. [4] [5] In addition, Braverman's work has been featured in magazines and non-academic publications, including as Elle, Vogue and New York Magazine. [6] [7] [8]
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{{ BLP noticeboard}} I just reverted a revert of material that puts the page subject in a negative light. It seems to me that the information was reliably sourced, but I'm opening that up for discussion. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Note: there is currently a RFC on the reliability of Quackwatch. Opinions seem to be mixed. Blueboar ( talk) 15:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
I've just removed negative/controversial claims sourced to tabloids, court documents, and self-published sources per BLP. Where possible, I kept or updated some claims that could be sourced to the NYT or Patch instead. I also updated the bot/autogenerated ref names so it's easier to see which sources are being used for which claims. If anyone knows of reliable sources that support content I've removed, please feel free to re-add it. Or let me know and I'll gladly add it back myself. (I'm not sure "gladly" is the best word here, given the subject, but it is what it is.) For what it's worth, I do think it's important that we include negative information, but it needs to be reliably sourced and compliant with our BLP policies. Woodroar ( talk) 14:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Can those who wish to include this please find better sources? Slatersteven ( talk) 14:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
These are the claims I removed in this edit, along with policy justifications. I won't list claims that I left in the article because I found (or they already had) better sourcing, though I may add some notes about that.
b) sexual abuse and forcible touchingsourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
b) indicted; ordered to undergo a psychiatric fitness examsourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com) and Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) and WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid).
Braverman is listed by Quackwatch as a promoter of questionable health products, and critics accuse him of promoting quackery.sourced to A Critical Look at Dr. Eric Braverman and his PATH Medical Clinic by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (Quackwatch). Removed per WP:BLPSPS (clarified in WP:RSN#RfC: Quackwatch).
On July 1, 1996, Braverman, who had a PATH office near Princeton, was served by the New Jersey Board of Medical Examiners with a 12 count 'verified complaint.' Later that month, the board temporarily suspended Braverman's license to practice medicine in New Jersey, finding that if he continued to practice it may constitute a clear and imminent danger to the public.sourced to License Suspension of Eric R. Braverman, M.D. (1996-97) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. and Disciplinary Action against Eric Braverman, M.D. (1997) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (both Casewatch, also run by Stephen Barrett). The sources and some of these claims were removed per WP:BLPSPS, but I was able to update the basic statement to
In July 1996, Braverman's license to practice medicine in New Jersey was suspended by the New Jersey Board of Medical Examiners after finding that he repeatedly misdiagnosed his patients and prescribed them inappropriate treatments.and sourced that to this New York Times article. In addition, I added
The New York Times also noted that Braverman has a radio show on which he advocated for alternative medicine.sourced to the same article. On a side note, I couldn't verify "who had a PATH office near Princeton" in the Casewatch sources, plus the mention of 12 counts and "constitute a clear and imminent danger to the public" are taken from the court records and not Barrett's analysis, which is an issue of WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:NPOV.
Regarding the first 11 counts of the complaint, the New Jersey attorney general charged that Braverman's diagnosis and treatment of 11 different patients was "so inappropriate or unsafe, evidencing gross misdiagnosis and/or mismanagement of a wide variety of patient complaints, that the health or lives of his patients are endangered." The Attorney General claimed that Braverman represented "a clear and imminent danger to the public." In the 12th count, New Jersey said that the writings of Braverman "contained in his Updated Holy Bible, including the statement, 'the Lord said . . . I am YHWH from Yahweh...' taken in aggregate with other circumstances, such as Braverman's license plate which reads 'YHWH MD', indicate that Braverman may suffer from a mental disorder." Due to this, besides suspension of license, the State sought an order requiring Braverman "to submit to psychiatric and psychological evaluations."sourced to License Suspension of Eric R. Braverman, M.D. (1996-97) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPSPS and WP:UNDUE as it's a long paragraph with a single source. There's also an issue of WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:NPOV because many of the specific details/quotes are original analysis of the court records and not what Barrett highlighted.
Starting in September 2013, PATH Medical was investigated by the Office of the Attorney General of New York General Health Care Bureau for deceptive and misleading business practices due to 20 complaints to the OAG of unnecessary testing and excessive billing.sourced to Sarah Ferguson linked to controversial doctor by Richard Johnson (Page Six, a gossip section/site published by The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES/ WP:BLPGOSSIP (gossip site published by a tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
The OAG also found that patients were not provided documentation about what testing had been conducted at the time of treatment, and that many patients complained that they were being charged extra to discuss the results of those tests. Finally, the OAG found that PATH Medical used insecure methods such as personal email accounts to communicate private health information, including patient records. PATH Medical reached a settlement with the OAG in December 2014, called Assurance 14-222, promising to reform its practices to ensure that all consent forms would clearly indicate that patients will likely not receive insurance coverage for their treatment, that patients would receive an itemized receipt with costs and Current Procedural Terminology codes before any treatment is conducted, and that protected health information would no longer be sent via email.sourced to PATH Medical Assurance of Discontinuance 11.24.14 (clean) (Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) because there isn't even any analysis by Barrett here, it's simply a court record hosted by Casewatch.
Braverman and his divorce attorney Diana Moyhi were arrested for trying to steal two confidential custody-case psychiatric reports on him from his divorce case file from a Manhattan Supreme Court courtroom in January 2014. He was charged with attempted grand larceny, tampering with public records, and criminal contempt.sourced to Doctor embroiled in contentious divorce busted for sex abuse by Rebecca Rosenberg (The New York Post), Doctor accused of stealing court documents in custody fight by Julia Marsh and Kirstan Conley (The New York Post), and Anti-aging doc accused of sexually assaulting patient during massage in his private office by Thomas Tracy and Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (all tabloid sources). Even if we find that the New York Daily News is a better tabloid source, we still have issues with WP:UNDUE.
After trying to steal the reports and being caught by the court clerk, he allegedly tried to bribe her.sourced to Doctor tried to bribe court clerk after failing to steal documents by Rebecca Rosenberg (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
The charges carried a maximum jail sentence of seven years.and
His wife had claimed their children were not safe with Braverman because he had tried to improperly medicate them.sourced to Doctor accused of stealing court documents in custody fight by Julia Marsh and Kirstan Conley (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
Braverman was found guilty of attempted petty larceny and sentenced to 15 days in jail, which he served.sourced to Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
On the basis of this case, the New York State Board of Professional Medical Conduct charged Braverman with professional misconduct, resulting in a "censure and reprimand".sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post) and ny_censure_2017.pdf. Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:BLPPRIMARY. Note that the Casewatch source is again only a court record with no analysis from Barrett.
In October 2017, Braverman was again arrested. He was charged in a criminal complaint with sexually assaulting a female patient at his office by forcible touching and sex abuse by inserting his fingers inside her "for no legitimate medical purpose" and against her will.sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post), Anti-aging doc accused of sexually assaulting patient during massage in his private office by Thomas Tracy and Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News), and Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). The sources and some of these claims were removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (all tabloid sources) but I was able to update the basic statement to
In 2017, Braverman was again arrested. He was charged in a criminal complaint with sexually assaulting a female patient at his office by forcible touching and sex abuse.and sourced that to Patch.
He was arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court on November 1, 2017.sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post). Removed WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
He was indicted by a grand jury on one count of Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree and one count of Forcible Touching.sourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In September 2018, at the request of the New York District Attorney’s Office the judge in the case ordered that Braverman undergo a psychiatric fitness exam.sourced to Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
In June 2016, the New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division upheld an order of the New York Supreme Court that awarded Braverman's third ex-wife Darya primary custody of their children and granted him supervised therapeutic access time with the children.sourced to Braverman v Braverman (court records hosted at law.justia.com) and Neurosurgeon could lose underwear in divorce battle by Ian Mohr (Page Six). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) and WP:BLPSOURCES/ WP:BLPGOSSIP (gossip site published by a tabloid).
The court based its opinion on the determinations of a court-appointed psychiatrist and abuse specialists that Braverman committed medical child abuse (Munchausen syndrome by proxy) by exaggerating the children's symptoms and repeatedly subjecting them to unnecessary and at times invasive medical treatment, and had a fixation with their health.and
The court also noted Braverman's impaired mental health, his false accusations of abuse against his ex-wife, and his inferior parenting capabilities.sourced to Braverman v Braverman (court records hosted at law.justia.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In March 2017, Braverman filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.and
He listed $10.6 million in assets, and $20 million in liabilitiessourced to Eric R. Braverman, MD Peition for Voluntary Bankruptcy (2017) (court records hosted at Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In his filing, he blamed his bankruptcy on divorce proceedings with his third ex-wife.and
His ex-wife's attorney said: "Despite his claims of insolvency he has admitted to the court that he recently enjoyed a respite on St. Bart’s at a multi-million dollar estate."sourced to Scandal-ridden doctor blames bankruptcy on $5M divorce suit by Julia Marsh (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
Braverman's bankruptcy filing has stayed his pending lawsuits.was unsourced. Removed per WP:NOR.
I think that's it. If I've missed any, please let me know. I'm very short on time (especially after this) so I may not be able to get back to this right away. Woodroar ( talk) 17:30, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
[a]rticles written by Stephen Barrett should be considered reliable and self-published...and the nuanced result clarified:
It seems like the consensus on the articles written on Quackwatch by Stephen Barrett is that they are considered to be self-published under our definition of self-published. The key consideration to most people is that Mr. Barrett is also the editor of the website and there is thus no second set of eyes that would make their articles non-self published as defined by Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources.... The link to Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources is important because it says to
[n]ever use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.That's the issue at hand, because all of the Quackwatch claims here are about living people. Woodroar ( talk) 23:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Critics such as Stephen Barrett writing in Quackwatch describe Braverman as promoting questionable health products, and as promoting quackery.-- Tryptofish ( talk) 23:50, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Can someone point me to a WP listing which indicates the New York Post and New York Daily News are for WP purposes both considered "tabloids" and thus barred for use as sources for use on a BLP? BTW, "tabloid" can refer to a paper size and does not necessarily equate to tabloid journalism. RobP ( talk) 02:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The New York Daily News is a tabloid newspaper that publishes tabloid journalism) and the same is implied about the Post (
The New York Post is a tabloid newspaper with high circulation, and most editors prefer more reliable sources when available. The New York Post operates Page Six, its gossip section.). Off wiki, you'll find criticism of both papers' tabloid journalism, "sensationalism sells" approach—for example, from The Columbia Journalism Review and The New York Times—which points to their lack of a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Woodroar ( talk) 04:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Consensus can change, and context matters tremendously when determining how to use this list, which has not been paid any heed to. Both the tabloids are pretty much reliable in mundane reporting of negative affairs unless we are dealing in highly controversial domains. And, if we are not using these sources, I propose that the article be deleted for it fails ANYBIO and GNG. ∯WBG converse 13:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I've gone through all of the sources now, and this is what I think:
-- Tryptofish ( talk) 22:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Quackwatch has stated that PATH promotes and sells questionable health products, and critics accuse Braverman of promoting quackery. I think something like
Quackwatch has stated that PATH promotes and sells questionable health products, and has also accused Braverman of promoting quackerywould be more appropriate. It is a single critic, after all. (Of course, if anyone has additional sources, I'm absolutely fine with keeping it as-is.) In addition, if we're using it as a source, should it also appear as an external link?
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some of the refs here might be use-able to generate encyclopedic content. Otherwise this is just promotional trash
Braverman has been a radio personality since 1986 and currently hosts Total Health on WABC-770 Sundays at noon, and has also made guest appearances on other radio shows. In the past, he hosted a weekly show on WOR 710 Radio, until his contract was canceled in June 1996 following board action in the state of NJ and PA. [1] [2] [3] He has appeared on television networks and primetime shows including NBC Nightly News, Larry King Live, The Today Show, The Tyra Banks Show, MSNBC, Benny Hinn's This Is Your Day and The O’Reilly Factor. [4] [5] In addition, Braverman's work has been featured in magazines and non-academic publications, including as Elle, Vogue and New York Magazine. [6] [7] [8]
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{{ BLP noticeboard}} I just reverted a revert of material that puts the page subject in a negative light. It seems to me that the information was reliably sourced, but I'm opening that up for discussion. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Note: there is currently a RFC on the reliability of Quackwatch. Opinions seem to be mixed. Blueboar ( talk) 15:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
I've just removed negative/controversial claims sourced to tabloids, court documents, and self-published sources per BLP. Where possible, I kept or updated some claims that could be sourced to the NYT or Patch instead. I also updated the bot/autogenerated ref names so it's easier to see which sources are being used for which claims. If anyone knows of reliable sources that support content I've removed, please feel free to re-add it. Or let me know and I'll gladly add it back myself. (I'm not sure "gladly" is the best word here, given the subject, but it is what it is.) For what it's worth, I do think it's important that we include negative information, but it needs to be reliably sourced and compliant with our BLP policies. Woodroar ( talk) 14:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Can those who wish to include this please find better sources? Slatersteven ( talk) 14:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
These are the claims I removed in this edit, along with policy justifications. I won't list claims that I left in the article because I found (or they already had) better sourcing, though I may add some notes about that.
b) sexual abuse and forcible touchingsourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
b) indicted; ordered to undergo a psychiatric fitness examsourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com) and Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) and WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid).
Braverman is listed by Quackwatch as a promoter of questionable health products, and critics accuse him of promoting quackery.sourced to A Critical Look at Dr. Eric Braverman and his PATH Medical Clinic by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (Quackwatch). Removed per WP:BLPSPS (clarified in WP:RSN#RfC: Quackwatch).
On July 1, 1996, Braverman, who had a PATH office near Princeton, was served by the New Jersey Board of Medical Examiners with a 12 count 'verified complaint.' Later that month, the board temporarily suspended Braverman's license to practice medicine in New Jersey, finding that if he continued to practice it may constitute a clear and imminent danger to the public.sourced to License Suspension of Eric R. Braverman, M.D. (1996-97) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. and Disciplinary Action against Eric Braverman, M.D. (1997) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (both Casewatch, also run by Stephen Barrett). The sources and some of these claims were removed per WP:BLPSPS, but I was able to update the basic statement to
In July 1996, Braverman's license to practice medicine in New Jersey was suspended by the New Jersey Board of Medical Examiners after finding that he repeatedly misdiagnosed his patients and prescribed them inappropriate treatments.and sourced that to this New York Times article. In addition, I added
The New York Times also noted that Braverman has a radio show on which he advocated for alternative medicine.sourced to the same article. On a side note, I couldn't verify "who had a PATH office near Princeton" in the Casewatch sources, plus the mention of 12 counts and "constitute a clear and imminent danger to the public" are taken from the court records and not Barrett's analysis, which is an issue of WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:NPOV.
Regarding the first 11 counts of the complaint, the New Jersey attorney general charged that Braverman's diagnosis and treatment of 11 different patients was "so inappropriate or unsafe, evidencing gross misdiagnosis and/or mismanagement of a wide variety of patient complaints, that the health or lives of his patients are endangered." The Attorney General claimed that Braverman represented "a clear and imminent danger to the public." In the 12th count, New Jersey said that the writings of Braverman "contained in his Updated Holy Bible, including the statement, 'the Lord said . . . I am YHWH from Yahweh...' taken in aggregate with other circumstances, such as Braverman's license plate which reads 'YHWH MD', indicate that Braverman may suffer from a mental disorder." Due to this, besides suspension of license, the State sought an order requiring Braverman "to submit to psychiatric and psychological evaluations."sourced to License Suspension of Eric R. Braverman, M.D. (1996-97) by Stephen Barrett, M.D. (Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPSPS and WP:UNDUE as it's a long paragraph with a single source. There's also an issue of WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:NPOV because many of the specific details/quotes are original analysis of the court records and not what Barrett highlighted.
Starting in September 2013, PATH Medical was investigated by the Office of the Attorney General of New York General Health Care Bureau for deceptive and misleading business practices due to 20 complaints to the OAG of unnecessary testing and excessive billing.sourced to Sarah Ferguson linked to controversial doctor by Richard Johnson (Page Six, a gossip section/site published by The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES/ WP:BLPGOSSIP (gossip site published by a tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
The OAG also found that patients were not provided documentation about what testing had been conducted at the time of treatment, and that many patients complained that they were being charged extra to discuss the results of those tests. Finally, the OAG found that PATH Medical used insecure methods such as personal email accounts to communicate private health information, including patient records. PATH Medical reached a settlement with the OAG in December 2014, called Assurance 14-222, promising to reform its practices to ensure that all consent forms would clearly indicate that patients will likely not receive insurance coverage for their treatment, that patients would receive an itemized receipt with costs and Current Procedural Terminology codes before any treatment is conducted, and that protected health information would no longer be sent via email.sourced to PATH Medical Assurance of Discontinuance 11.24.14 (clean) (Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) because there isn't even any analysis by Barrett here, it's simply a court record hosted by Casewatch.
Braverman and his divorce attorney Diana Moyhi were arrested for trying to steal two confidential custody-case psychiatric reports on him from his divorce case file from a Manhattan Supreme Court courtroom in January 2014. He was charged with attempted grand larceny, tampering with public records, and criminal contempt.sourced to Doctor embroiled in contentious divorce busted for sex abuse by Rebecca Rosenberg (The New York Post), Doctor accused of stealing court documents in custody fight by Julia Marsh and Kirstan Conley (The New York Post), and Anti-aging doc accused of sexually assaulting patient during massage in his private office by Thomas Tracy and Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (all tabloid sources). Even if we find that the New York Daily News is a better tabloid source, we still have issues with WP:UNDUE.
After trying to steal the reports and being caught by the court clerk, he allegedly tried to bribe her.sourced to Doctor tried to bribe court clerk after failing to steal documents by Rebecca Rosenberg (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
The charges carried a maximum jail sentence of seven years.and
His wife had claimed their children were not safe with Braverman because he had tried to improperly medicate them.sourced to Doctor accused of stealing court documents in custody fight by Julia Marsh and Kirstan Conley (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
Braverman was found guilty of attempted petty larceny and sentenced to 15 days in jail, which he served.sourced to Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
On the basis of this case, the New York State Board of Professional Medical Conduct charged Braverman with professional misconduct, resulting in a "censure and reprimand".sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post) and ny_censure_2017.pdf. Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:BLPPRIMARY. Note that the Casewatch source is again only a court record with no analysis from Barrett.
In October 2017, Braverman was again arrested. He was charged in a criminal complaint with sexually assaulting a female patient at his office by forcible touching and sex abuse by inserting his fingers inside her "for no legitimate medical purpose" and against her will.sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post), Anti-aging doc accused of sexually assaulting patient during massage in his private office by Thomas Tracy and Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News), and Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). The sources and some of these claims were removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (all tabloid sources) but I was able to update the basic statement to
In 2017, Braverman was again arrested. He was charged in a criminal complaint with sexually assaulting a female patient at his office by forcible touching and sex abuse.and sourced that to Patch.
He was arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court on November 1, 2017.sourced to Park Avenue neurosurgeon arrested for sexually assaulting patient by Shawn Cohen and Linda Massarell (The New York Post). Removed WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
He was indicted by a grand jury on one count of Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree and one count of Forcible Touching.sourced to nysb17-13478-27.pdf (court records hosted at bankrupt.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In September 2018, at the request of the New York District Attorney’s Office the judge in the case ordered that Braverman undergo a psychiatric fitness exam.sourced to Psych exam ordered for alternative medicine doc accused of sexually abusing patient by Shayna Jacobs (New York Daily News). Removed WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
In June 2016, the New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division upheld an order of the New York Supreme Court that awarded Braverman's third ex-wife Darya primary custody of their children and granted him supervised therapeutic access time with the children.sourced to Braverman v Braverman (court records hosted at law.justia.com) and Neurosurgeon could lose underwear in divorce battle by Ian Mohr (Page Six). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records) and WP:BLPSOURCES/ WP:BLPGOSSIP (gossip site published by a tabloid).
The court based its opinion on the determinations of a court-appointed psychiatrist and abuse specialists that Braverman committed medical child abuse (Munchausen syndrome by proxy) by exaggerating the children's symptoms and repeatedly subjecting them to unnecessary and at times invasive medical treatment, and had a fixation with their health.and
The court also noted Braverman's impaired mental health, his false accusations of abuse against his ex-wife, and his inferior parenting capabilities.sourced to Braverman v Braverman (court records hosted at law.justia.com). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In March 2017, Braverman filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.and
He listed $10.6 million in assets, and $20 million in liabilitiessourced to Eric R. Braverman, MD Peition for Voluntary Bankruptcy (2017) (court records hosted at Casewatch). Removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY (court records).
In his filing, he blamed his bankruptcy on divorce proceedings with his third ex-wife.and
His ex-wife's attorney said: "Despite his claims of insolvency he has admitted to the court that he recently enjoyed a respite on St. Bart’s at a multi-million dollar estate."sourced to Scandal-ridden doctor blames bankruptcy on $5M divorce suit by Julia Marsh (The New York Post). Removed per WP:BLPSOURCES (tabloid) and WP:UNDUE (single tabloid source).
Braverman's bankruptcy filing has stayed his pending lawsuits.was unsourced. Removed per WP:NOR.
I think that's it. If I've missed any, please let me know. I'm very short on time (especially after this) so I may not be able to get back to this right away. Woodroar ( talk) 17:30, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
[a]rticles written by Stephen Barrett should be considered reliable and self-published...and the nuanced result clarified:
It seems like the consensus on the articles written on Quackwatch by Stephen Barrett is that they are considered to be self-published under our definition of self-published. The key consideration to most people is that Mr. Barrett is also the editor of the website and there is thus no second set of eyes that would make their articles non-self published as defined by Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources.... The link to Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources is important because it says to
[n]ever use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.That's the issue at hand, because all of the Quackwatch claims here are about living people. Woodroar ( talk) 23:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Critics such as Stephen Barrett writing in Quackwatch describe Braverman as promoting questionable health products, and as promoting quackery.-- Tryptofish ( talk) 23:50, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Can someone point me to a WP listing which indicates the New York Post and New York Daily News are for WP purposes both considered "tabloids" and thus barred for use as sources for use on a BLP? BTW, "tabloid" can refer to a paper size and does not necessarily equate to tabloid journalism. RobP ( talk) 02:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The New York Daily News is a tabloid newspaper that publishes tabloid journalism) and the same is implied about the Post (
The New York Post is a tabloid newspaper with high circulation, and most editors prefer more reliable sources when available. The New York Post operates Page Six, its gossip section.). Off wiki, you'll find criticism of both papers' tabloid journalism, "sensationalism sells" approach—for example, from The Columbia Journalism Review and The New York Times—which points to their lack of a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Woodroar ( talk) 04:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Consensus can change, and context matters tremendously when determining how to use this list, which has not been paid any heed to. Both the tabloids are pretty much reliable in mundane reporting of negative affairs unless we are dealing in highly controversial domains. And, if we are not using these sources, I propose that the article be deleted for it fails ANYBIO and GNG. ∯WBG converse 13:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I've gone through all of the sources now, and this is what I think:
-- Tryptofish ( talk) 22:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Quackwatch has stated that PATH promotes and sells questionable health products, and critics accuse Braverman of promoting quackery. I think something like
Quackwatch has stated that PATH promotes and sells questionable health products, and has also accused Braverman of promoting quackerywould be more appropriate. It is a single critic, after all. (Of course, if anyone has additional sources, I'm absolutely fine with keeping it as-is.) In addition, if we're using it as a source, should it also appear as an external link?