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Serial Number 54129 assuming you wrote this. Easton failed to predict in the early 60:s a tax introduced in 1997? I can't say I blame him. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
If someone has access to this book [1], it may have something useful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 09:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, Hello again. Impressive work! Questions: "Clayson suggests that Easton's and Oldham's dismissal was as a result of a "divide and conquer" tactic by Klein" doesn't quite make sense to me, since there is no other mention of Oldham's dismissal in this article. Also, I checked cite 1 since I was curious if you had found a cite for 1995, but page 63 in that book is only about the Beatles. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Found 1995. That was strangely difficult. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 21:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 07:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
About your edits today. I don't think any of them are wrong, but as I said at your talkpage, on WP you knowing it is not enough, here we need a WP:RS as defined by WP. If you can't source it, don't add it. If you wan't to write in another way, write a book or a blog. This article is surprisingly decent, WP-wise, and your additions are not improvements without good sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 19:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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19:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC) I verified the birth and death dates and the place of death by a genealogy site, which I included in a previous post. Notice that I did not include any of the stuff that Paul Easton told me that I could not verify, such as Eric Easton's birth name. I am trying to be a good boy. I know that researchers like myself want dates and places. But I am thrilled with what you did! I didn't mean to step on toes.
T Boy Jackson ( talk) 11:00, 11 March 2020 (UTC) Here's the link I gave you on March second:
Here's another
https://www.ancientfaces.com/person/eric-easton-birth-1927-death-1995/92065339
The zip code given ins for Naples Florida.
His son told me the following:
Dad was born Eric Catlow Huden and changed his name to Easton for professional purposes when he was a performing musician. He came from a little town called Rishton in Lancashire, close to Blackburn, Preston, Burnley and, most notably, Blackpool. His Mum died when he was a boy. When Dad was about 14 he was hired to play the theatre organ at the Tower Ballroom in Blackpool. That was during the war, when the majority of the men were overseas fighting. Without getting in too deep, that experience led him to eventually move to London where he started a theatrical agency booking variety entertainers around the country. Somewhere on that journey he had a couple of different enterprises, including renting Hammond organs to theatres, holiday camps and other live entertainment venues.
I am not sure where Lionel got the notion that dad was Jewish. His dad was Protestant, an Orange Man. At best he was Church of England (C of E) although we weren’t a good church going family! Funny, really, because most of his extended family in the north of England did have very strong ties to the church.
It was when he and Mum (Mary) married that Dad decided to venture in to the agency business. He was never too comfortable with the performing side of things although he and Mum used to produce summer shows around the country, mostly for seaside resort towns like Bridlington, Scarborough, etc. This was all in the days prior to rock and roll…the 1950s.
Eventually he opened an office in London and slowly transitioned to management, with at least one or two guys working with him as agents for the client roster. I remember BoB Knight being one of the agents. You referenced some of the artists he represented, including Bert Weedon, Julie Grant, radio host and compere Brian Matthew and a number of others. Mrs. Mills was one of his long-standing clients. She continues to sell records around the world even though she passed away in 1978.
Somewhere along the way he did end up with Dave Clark Five as a client but when he got the Stones he passed those guys on to Tito Burns. The Stones were a full time project!
Dad actually was the business guy behind the Stones. Andrew handled press and PR, that was the arrangement the two of them had. Unfortunately Andrew liked press and PR as much for himself as he did the band. He was erratic and inconsistent at best, disappearing for days and weeks on end. That was actually how Dad ended up producing some of the early recordings, simply because Andrew had gone missing! I can enlighten you on much of that history if it is of interest.
In the 70s Dad still managed Mrs. Mills (on EMI Records) although he had sold his office in London and was working from home. He had become involved in real estate development and a couple of other businesses. The toy store started out as something for Mum to do…Jane and I were in school and Mum wanted a project. They bought a card and gift shop in West Drayton, turned it in to a toy store and then opened another store in Slough. Lots of stories about those days!
As a family, we started visiting the States in 70s, the first trip I recall being 1976. A big year for America! A couple of years later Mum and Dad bought a holiday place in Naples and then finally decided in 1980 to emigrate. By then Jane was already living over here and I came along with them. Dad bought a business to satisfy immigration requirements and then they settled in to the Florida lifestyle.
Dad passed away on September 13, 1995, as you note. He was only 67…he died of cancer.
He didn’t have much contact with the Stones in later years although Bill did write to him a couple of times. On the Steel Wheels tour the band made Naples their base for the southern leg of the tour and we ended up having dinner with Bill at the Ritz Carlton. Ronnie came by to say hi. Dad went up ahead of us and met with Mick and Keith…the first time they had spoken in many, many years. There were no lawyers present that time around! Anyway, it was nice to hear Bill tell Dad they never knew what they had until they parted company. He regretted them letting Dad go. Financially it was a very bad decision and he said Mick would never admit it but it was a very sore point for him.
T Boy Jackson ( talk) 12:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)The baseball player is not a son. Eric Easton's children are Paul and Jane. Paul is in his 50s and Jane is older.
Serial Number 54129, Something missing here: "His partnership with them, though, says Easton, because the group thought him to be concentrating too much on the Stones and not enough on them.[143][65]" Fell through, ended or something like that perhaps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
where he kept workingimplies, I think, that he remained in the same industry, i.e., kept up the same work. Whereas
he opened several businessesindicates there was a slight difference. —— SN 54129 19:21, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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Serial Number 54129 assuming you wrote this. Easton failed to predict in the early 60:s a tax introduced in 1997? I can't say I blame him. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
If someone has access to this book [1], it may have something useful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 09:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, Hello again. Impressive work! Questions: "Clayson suggests that Easton's and Oldham's dismissal was as a result of a "divide and conquer" tactic by Klein" doesn't quite make sense to me, since there is no other mention of Oldham's dismissal in this article. Also, I checked cite 1 since I was curious if you had found a cite for 1995, but page 63 in that book is only about the Beatles. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Found 1995. That was strangely difficult. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 21:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 07:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
About your edits today. I don't think any of them are wrong, but as I said at your talkpage, on WP you knowing it is not enough, here we need a WP:RS as defined by WP. If you can't source it, don't add it. If you wan't to write in another way, write a book or a blog. This article is surprisingly decent, WP-wise, and your additions are not improvements without good sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 19:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
T Boy Jackson (
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19:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC) I verified the birth and death dates and the place of death by a genealogy site, which I included in a previous post. Notice that I did not include any of the stuff that Paul Easton told me that I could not verify, such as Eric Easton's birth name. I am trying to be a good boy. I know that researchers like myself want dates and places. But I am thrilled with what you did! I didn't mean to step on toes.
T Boy Jackson ( talk) 11:00, 11 March 2020 (UTC) Here's the link I gave you on March second:
Here's another
https://www.ancientfaces.com/person/eric-easton-birth-1927-death-1995/92065339
The zip code given ins for Naples Florida.
His son told me the following:
Dad was born Eric Catlow Huden and changed his name to Easton for professional purposes when he was a performing musician. He came from a little town called Rishton in Lancashire, close to Blackburn, Preston, Burnley and, most notably, Blackpool. His Mum died when he was a boy. When Dad was about 14 he was hired to play the theatre organ at the Tower Ballroom in Blackpool. That was during the war, when the majority of the men were overseas fighting. Without getting in too deep, that experience led him to eventually move to London where he started a theatrical agency booking variety entertainers around the country. Somewhere on that journey he had a couple of different enterprises, including renting Hammond organs to theatres, holiday camps and other live entertainment venues.
I am not sure where Lionel got the notion that dad was Jewish. His dad was Protestant, an Orange Man. At best he was Church of England (C of E) although we weren’t a good church going family! Funny, really, because most of his extended family in the north of England did have very strong ties to the church.
It was when he and Mum (Mary) married that Dad decided to venture in to the agency business. He was never too comfortable with the performing side of things although he and Mum used to produce summer shows around the country, mostly for seaside resort towns like Bridlington, Scarborough, etc. This was all in the days prior to rock and roll…the 1950s.
Eventually he opened an office in London and slowly transitioned to management, with at least one or two guys working with him as agents for the client roster. I remember BoB Knight being one of the agents. You referenced some of the artists he represented, including Bert Weedon, Julie Grant, radio host and compere Brian Matthew and a number of others. Mrs. Mills was one of his long-standing clients. She continues to sell records around the world even though she passed away in 1978.
Somewhere along the way he did end up with Dave Clark Five as a client but when he got the Stones he passed those guys on to Tito Burns. The Stones were a full time project!
Dad actually was the business guy behind the Stones. Andrew handled press and PR, that was the arrangement the two of them had. Unfortunately Andrew liked press and PR as much for himself as he did the band. He was erratic and inconsistent at best, disappearing for days and weeks on end. That was actually how Dad ended up producing some of the early recordings, simply because Andrew had gone missing! I can enlighten you on much of that history if it is of interest.
In the 70s Dad still managed Mrs. Mills (on EMI Records) although he had sold his office in London and was working from home. He had become involved in real estate development and a couple of other businesses. The toy store started out as something for Mum to do…Jane and I were in school and Mum wanted a project. They bought a card and gift shop in West Drayton, turned it in to a toy store and then opened another store in Slough. Lots of stories about those days!
As a family, we started visiting the States in 70s, the first trip I recall being 1976. A big year for America! A couple of years later Mum and Dad bought a holiday place in Naples and then finally decided in 1980 to emigrate. By then Jane was already living over here and I came along with them. Dad bought a business to satisfy immigration requirements and then they settled in to the Florida lifestyle.
Dad passed away on September 13, 1995, as you note. He was only 67…he died of cancer.
He didn’t have much contact with the Stones in later years although Bill did write to him a couple of times. On the Steel Wheels tour the band made Naples their base for the southern leg of the tour and we ended up having dinner with Bill at the Ritz Carlton. Ronnie came by to say hi. Dad went up ahead of us and met with Mick and Keith…the first time they had spoken in many, many years. There were no lawyers present that time around! Anyway, it was nice to hear Bill tell Dad they never knew what they had until they parted company. He regretted them letting Dad go. Financially it was a very bad decision and he said Mick would never admit it but it was a very sore point for him.
T Boy Jackson ( talk) 12:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)The baseball player is not a son. Eric Easton's children are Paul and Jane. Paul is in his 50s and Jane is older.
Serial Number 54129, Something missing here: "His partnership with them, though, says Easton, because the group thought him to be concentrating too much on the Stones and not enough on them.[143][65]" Fell through, ended or something like that perhaps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
where he kept workingimplies, I think, that he remained in the same industry, i.e., kept up the same work. Whereas
he opened several businessesindicates there was a slight difference. —— SN 54129 19:21, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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